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Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

TrollDragon

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I just find the thread too damn confusing. I am using protank coils or rebuilt with nr-r-nr 33g 2.0ohm Silica wick. Running that setup in my Rebuildables as well at 6.5w. Am I going to die.
The study claims that the output from a CE4 is dangerous at any power level. I associate PT coils similar to a CE5, which I don't know if they are actually any better than a CE4. I really have no experience with those devices.

The heat flux on a 2 ohm 33g wire coil is 330 at 6.5W, you must find the vape quite hot. They recommend that you try and keep the heat flux in the blue when rebuilding clearomizer heads.
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Question.... just bought the Origen little tank from FT, so while I wait for the slow boat, I've watched videos on wicking.
Anyway it looks like it's done like a big S. Is that the right way?
I don't have yet so that's why I'm asking.
Any suggestions would be lovely, thanks!!
 

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Pretty plain compared to @Katdarling's though. It needs some love :wub:

What happened to my previous post? It got sucked out of the universe or, I just don't see it?? No matter.
Bea, I think your setup is just lovely in its simplicity. Not everything needs a bling bath! :lol:

But perhaps just add a pop of color, even with the drip tip.

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that 470 F temperature that some guys in California say is dangerous

I wouldn't trust those KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians as far as I could throw 'em. (and I throw like a GIRL!!)
 

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Question.... just bought the Origen little tank from FT, so while I wait for the slow boat, I've watched videos on wicking.
Anyway it looks like it's done like a big S. Is that the right way?
I don't have yet so that's why I'm asking.
Any suggestions would be lovely, thanks!!

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Question.... just bought the Origen little tank from FT, so while I wait for the slow boat, I've watched videos on wicking.
Anyway it looks like it's done like a big S. Is that the right way?
I don't have yet so that's why I'm asking.
Any suggestions would be lovely, thanks!!

You can either go under the coil, or over the posts on the TinyTank, I prefer under the coil on the TT, the 19/22 is its big brother on that I go over the posts.

I use a 2.5mm 316L coil @.4 on it, a 3mm coil will fit barely, but careful placement or it will end up shorting. leave your tails fairly long, tuck them under the coil trim excess length so you end up with a nice uniform bed on the deck. If your using 80+ VG you may have to thin the deck bed a little to maintain good wick saturation.


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Still amazes me that aftermarket manufacturers were able to pull off what the original manufacturer couldn't.


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What is it the Vika is able to do that the Kabuki doesn't do? Maybe that's not what you meant at all? It gets confusing talking about the Vika because, to me, the authentic Vika is actually a clone of the Kabuki. I don't have an authentic Vika, but I have an awesome clone of the Vika.
 

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You can either go under the coil, or over the posts on the TinyTank, I prefer under the coil on the TT, the 19/22 is its big brother on that I go over the posts.

I use a 2.5mm 316L coil @.4 on it, a 3mm coil will fit barely, but careful placement or it will end up shorting. leave your tails fairly long, tuck them under the coil trim excess length so you end up with a nice uniform bed on the deck. If your using 80+ VG you may have to thin the deck bed a little to maintain good wick saturation.


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Thank you!
 

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wouldn't trust those KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians as far as I could throw 'em.
Based on your listed location of Kali-Kat I always assumed (yeah, I know what they say about assumptions) that you ARE one of those KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians. Have I been mistaken all along? If I'm correct then we have to a bit of a paradox. Don't trust KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians, which means don't trust you, so therefore we should trust KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians, which means we should trust you, but you said DON't trust KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians so now we can't trust you, and so on and so forth. I'm so cornfuzzled.
 

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Oh dahlink. I'm about as Kooky as it gets, and yes, I am a CA lady (she said with a huge degree of embarrassment)...

I think my State has flipped its lid more times than I can even imagine.

My krazy is 100% playful, bizarre, go-for-the-giggle kind of wacky.

So feel free to trust me or not. Golden rule me, even... ;)

Butter? Salt? Cob? BBQ'd? Steamed? Raw? Do tell, cornfuzzled Indy man.
 

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Oh dahlink. I'm about as Kooky as it gets, and yes, I am a CA lady (she said with a huge degree of embarrassment)...

I think my State has flipped its lid more times than I can even imagine.

My krazy is 100% playful, bizarre, go-for-the-giggle kind of wacky.

So feel free to trust me or not. Golden rule me, even... ;)

Butter? Salt? Cob? BBQ'd? Steamed? Raw? Do tell, cornfuzzled Indy man.
Well the Kalifornia legislators do seem to be a special kind of KooKoo.

Grilled in the husk is best but any way it's cooked will work will work for me. And butter is a must. Good fresh from the farm sweet corn doesn't need any salt. Of course mashed and distilled is a good way to serve corn also. Though that kind of corn generally makes me even more cornfuzzled.;)
 

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I agree. I have been doing similar experiments and coming up with the same results on a KF5 with the air reducer kit and adjusted to the tightest air flow it is similar to a KF2 setting that most are familiar with. I tried that ( cause I vape that way a lot) and i was trying to minimize the air flow to not cool down the coil to mimic most MTL Vaping.

Your experiment was even more interesting not even drawing any air to the coil and coming up with those results.

I don't think my experiment will turn out to be quite definitive enough to earn me a Nobel prize in medicine but hopefully lots of other people around here will do similar tests and share their results and we'll end up better informed and not so vulnerable to the scare mongers.

Some scientists are standing behind a coil temperature number, 470 F. That's a target we can work with. Stay below that and you aren't creating worrying amounts of bad stuff? Really? Thanks scientist guys. My test suggests that's not a tough assignment and for a lot of vapers may be they can't get there even when they try.

The study claims that the output from a CE4 is dangerous at any power level. I associate PT coils similar to a CE5, which I don't know if they are actually any better than a CE4. I really have no experience with those devices.

The heat flux on a 2 ohm 33g wire coil is 330 at 6.5W, you must find the vape quite hot. They recommend that you try and keep the heat flux in the blue when rebuilding clearomizer heads.
Here is your current build in Steam Engine.
I am totally confused about this. I thought switching to vaping from smoking was so much safer - and still do for the most part. But then part of me wonders if this study is correct are we fooling ourselves into a false sense of security? Or are those scientists correct in their findings? Or is it a matter of degrees, as in it depends on style of vaping? I wish I liked liquor about now.
What happened to my previous post? It got sucked out of the universe or, I just don't see it?? No matter.
Bea, I think your setup is just lovely in its simplicity. Not everything needs a bling bath! :lol:

But perhaps just add a pop of color, even with the drip tip.

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I wouldn't trust those KooKoo Krazy Kalifornians as far as I could throw 'em. (and I throw like a GIRL!!)
Thanks Kat :wub:
 

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Question.... just bought the Origen little tank from FT, so while I wait for the slow boat, I've watched videos on wicking.
Anyway it looks like it's done like a big S. Is that the right way?
I don't have yet so that's why I'm asking.
Any suggestions would be lovely, thanks!!

+1 for interest on this question [emoji4]


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Only my Origen I build a single coil with the tails tucked under and completely fill the deck with it. I don't use it to squonk, and I drip straight down the drip tip.

Remind me to post pictures sometime. I'm slightly inebriated. Lol

ETA: just re-read that and realized you have the tank...not the rda. I'm gonna stop forum-ing and start drinking more. Lol. Goodnight puffers.
 

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Only my Origen I build a single coil with the tails tucked under and completely fill the deck with it. I don't use it to squonk, and I drip straight down the drip tip.

Remind me to post pictures sometime. I'm slightly inebriated. Lol
I'll remind you! Don't have to much fun tonight, work Monday comes early!! Lol
 

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I am totally confused about this. I thought switching to vaping from smoking was so much safer - and still do for the most part. But then part of me wonders if this study is correct are we fooling ourselves into a false sense of security? Or are those scientists correct in their findings? Or is it a matter of degrees, as in it depends on style of vaping? I wish I liked liquor about now.
Thanks Kat :wub:
Don't worry Bea!
Last year we had a similar thread about d/ap that went on like that thread is doing now.
People like to over react, it's what they do.
If you are not using a ce4 atomizer, as in top coil, you have nothing to worry about from that study.
Even then the science isn't clear yet.
Next year they will be telling us purified water is deadly.
Vaping is about harm reduction period.
According to some, you need an engineering degree to be able to vape.
 

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I am totally confused about this. I thought switching to vaping from smoking was so much safer - and still do for the most part. But then part of me wonders if this study is correct are we fooling ourselves into a false sense of security? Or are those scientists correct in their findings? Or is it a matter of degrees, as in it depends on style of vaping? I wish I liked liquor about now.
Thanks Kat :wub:
I would not worry too much. This study if very confusing and much of it was not done in current and ideal Vaping situations.. they are only talking about I believe 2 out of the 5000 that are present in cigs. Worst case I'll vape in SS mode.. Plus there is no concrete evidence that's why the thread is gonna pass 100 pages in less than a week... it's all up in my he air.... to error on the side of caution they are saying to vape in TC below 470f.
 

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I just find the thread too damn confusing. I am using protank coils or rebuilt with nr-r-nr 33g 2.0ohm Silica wick. Running that setup in my Rebuildables as well at 6.5w. Am I going to die.
Yes... but not from vaping directly... most would conside that a very cool vape.

ETA: I may have oopsed here as I missed the 33 AWG portion of the original comment. Using 33 AWG, the heat flux is much higher. Might I recommend switching to a thicker wire (30 AWG) or a lower wattage...

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Don't worry Bea!
Last year we had a similar thread about d/ap that went on like that thread is doing now.
People like to over react, it's what they do.
If you are not using a ce4 atomizer, as in top coil, you have nothing to worry about from that study.
Even then the science isn't clear yet.
Next year they will be telling us purified water is deadly.
Vaping is about harm reduction period.
According to some, you need an engineering degree to be able to vape.

I hope you are right. I read a bit on that thread and I can't read more. :confused: I just want someone to provide me with the Cliff Notes version when everything has been hashed out, settled and confirmed. It's hard to take this very seriously when: 1) There's some new dangerous thing about vaping all the time and most of those things have not been proven to be true once the dust settles a bit; and 2) I soooo do not want it to be true!!!

I do not want to learn about temp control!!
 

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