Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)

[brewbear]

Am I going to die.

Eventually! After all, life is a terminal condition.
As far as that study is concerned....take it with a grain of salt. Yes, aldehydes are released while vaping but generally in much lower quantities than cigs. My one and only question was under what conditions was this study done? Real life vaping or a machine/mechanical simulation. If real life conditions, I'd like to see the pool of data collected and I could evaluate it for myself. If a machine simulation, the data is erroneous and misleading in my opinion because a machine, no matter how well programmed, does not know to stop drawing at the first inkling of a beginning of a dry-ish hit and that is when most aldehydes are released.

 

[brewbear]

I do not want to learn about temp control!!

Have no fear, TC is your friend! My overall solution was to buy several Hohm Tech mods, set them in xXx mode (no, you potty minded ones-you know who you are- not THAT kind of xXx) the one that will TC every kind of wire and then set my temp. Yes, there are things to learn but it pays off in spades after all is said and done.

 

[Plettschner]

I hope you are right. I read a bit on that thread and I can't read more. I just want someone to provide me with the Cliff Notes version when everything has been hashed out, settled and confirmed. It's hard to take this very seriously when: 1) There's some new dangerous thing about vaping all the time and most of those things have not been proven to be true once the dust settles a bit; and 2) I soooo do not want it to be true!!!

I do not want to learn about temp control!!

There's really not much to learn to use it. My problem was not having a starting point when I got my first TC mod.

Set temp around 370-380F and set wattage to you're preferred level with the same gauge/diameter/wraps coil and hit it.

Vape to hot or too cool? Turn watts up or down. Might have to take temp up a little, but most likely not if you're below 12W on 28ga wire. Once you have wattage dialed in, bring temp down to where temp protection just kicks in at the end of a long pull.

Temp control is like a rev limiter on an engine.

At least, that's how I figured it.


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[Katdarling]

Well the Kalifornia legislators do seem to be a special kind of KooKoo.

Grilled in the husk is best but any way it's cooked will work will work for me. And butter is a must. Good fresh from the farm sweet corn doesn't need any salt. Of course mashed and distilled is a good way to serve corn also. Though that kind of corn generally makes me even more cornfuzzled.

I like-a yer style, kad.

I am totally confused about this. I thought switching to vaping from smoking was so much safer - and still do for the most part. But then part of me wonders if this study is correct are we fooling ourselves into a false sense of security? Or are those scientists correct in their findings? Or is it a matter of degrees, as in it depends on style of vaping? I wish I liked liquor about now.

Who did this study? (mmm hmmm)

Don't worry Bea!
Last year we had a similar thread about d/ap that went on like that thread is doing now.
People like to over react, it's what they do.
If you are not using a ce4 atomizer, as in top coil, you have nothing to worry about from that study.
Even then the science isn't clear yet.
Next year they will be telling us purified water is deadly.
Vaping is about harm reduction period.
According to some, you need an engineering degree to be able to vape.

And we need one more degree in camera resolution, IR cameras, pyrometers, emissivity settings, and oh yes, optothermy. Easy peezy.

Remind me to post pictures sometime. I'm slightly inebriated.

I am slightly as well. Think YOU could remind me to remind you, please?

 

[Plettschner]

Right now, I have a .1 ohm 28ga Ni200 coil at 10.8W with TC set at 340F. I have to chain vape a couple of long pulls to hit temp protection.

ETA: I can't believe I'm using a .1 ohm coil... tootling no less.

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[JustWondering1]

There's really not much to learn to use it. My problem was not having a starting point when I got my first TC mod.

Set temp around 370-380F and set wattage to you're preferred level with the same gauge/diameter/wraps coil and hit it.

Vape to hot or too cool? Turn watts up or down. Might have to take temp up a little, but most likely not if you're below 12W on 28ga wire. Once you have wattage dialed in, bring temp down to where temp protection just kicks in at the end of a long pull.

Temp control is like a rev limiter on an engine.

At least, that's how I figured it.


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Thank you very much! This helps immensely! I am going to copy this post and save it in my word file for vaping knowledge! Whenever I get up the courage to dip my toe into the TC pond, I'll have this to use. Not sure I would have ever had the courage without your guidance.

 

[brewbear]

The Vegemite toast was incredibly salty...so the remedy was beer.

I did try Vegemite once....but no beer since I was at work. Honestly, it is an acquired taste that I didn't acquire. Beer however, I managed to acquire a taste for.

 

[Plettschner]

Thank you very much! This helps immensely! I am going to copy this post and save it in my word file for vaping knowledge! Whenever I get up the courage to dip my toe into the TC pond, I'll have this to use. Not sure I would have ever had the courage without your guidance.

I am no master vaper, by a long shot. That was just how I came to terms with TC.

If anyone knows better or more, hopefully they can add.


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[gt_1955]

There's a train of thought (previously mentioned by Boden I reckon) that said you set your temp to 600F (or the max), set your watts to however you like to vape and watch the temperature rise on the mod (in a mirror) during use. Then set your temp limit to 10F above the max achieved during your mirror test.

This certainly has merit as it ensures you are getting the vape you want but with the added protection of temp control if your wick runs out of fluid (for whatever reason) and your mod begins to limit before it dry hits.

 

[brewbear]

There's a train of thought (previously mentioned by Boden I reckon) that said you set your temp to 600F (or the max), set your watts to however you like to vape and watch the temperature rise on the mod (in a mirror) during use. Then set your temp limit to 10F above the max achieved during your mirror test.

This certainly has merit as it ensures you are getting the vape you want but with the added protection of temp control if your wick runs out of fluid (for whatever reason) and your mod begins to limit before it dry hits.

That way has a lot of merit......unless you're driving at the time

 

[gt_1955]

That way has a lot of merit......unless you're driving at the time

Set once (per coil change/rewick), forget

 

[Plettschner]

Anyone have any experience with an Achilles RDA?

 

[leftyandsparky]

do we really have to use TC ? I really don't want to learn anything new yet! I just learned how to build coils.

 

[Katdarling]

Anyone have any experience with an Achilles RDA?

Yeppers. Ms. Andria. I believe she has some expertise with it.

do we really have to use TC ? I really don't want to learn anything new yet! I just learned how to build coils.

I'm going out on a vape limb here, but my answer is no, we do not have to use TC. We certainly CAN do, but I don't see it as a necessity at all.

I don't use it. I'm happy with my vape. My body is happy with my vape. Two fer two.

 

[leftyandsparky]

Yeppers. Ms. Andria. I believe she has some expertise with it.




I'm going out on a vape limb here, but my answer is no, we do not have to use TC. We certainly CAN do, but I don't see it as a necessity at all.

I don't use it. I'm happy with my vape. My body is happy with my vape. Two fer two.

Thank you that makes me feel better!

 

[brewbear]

I personally love the TC feature, I tend to forget things like adding ejuice at times. Using it with a G2 mod, further eliminates the need to remember the type of wire I used for any given tank. But vaping is a matter of choice, so if you're happy, vape on!

 

[Plettschner]

do we really have to use TC ? I really don't want to learn anything new yet! I just learned how to build coils.

You don't have to, but it seems beneficial. If you really don't want to learn it, just build coils with SS316, put mod in TC mode, set temp to 450F and then adjust your wattage like you normally do. You will be vapin' like normal, but with a 450F "hard ceiling". If you get adventurous after that, try bringing the temp setting down to where it just hits that temp on a couple of chain vape long pulls.

 

[Katdarling]

lefty, you MIGHT want to play around with it someday. Take your time, and let go of the pressure. I guarantee it will be much more enjoyable that way.

I believe there are prolly a few TC specific threads, in addition to the marvelous info from our members here who are adroit at it. There is also a member on the "big" thread who is (or has) started a thread for questions, along with a blog for info.

Take your time, hon.

 

[brewbear]

lefty, you MIGHT want to play around with it someday. Take your time, and let go of the pressure. I guarantee it will be much more enjoyable that way.

That just sounds WRONG! Plain wrong, I tell ya'

 

[corn flakes]

This study posted in the other thread got my attention.

Effect of variable power levels on the yield of total aerosol mass and formation of aldehydes in e-cigarette aerosols