I couldn't possibly say it better than you already have.
I just try to bring some musical interludes to the party. Music is important.
Tootle Puffers, Part Three! (The Sequel of the Redux)
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I couldn't possibly say it better than you already have.
I just try to bring some musical interludes to the party. Music is important.
...and I don't know if it's hit anyone yet (I'm not reading all the posts), but the existence of that thread is justifying the FDA's position that we don't yet know enough about vaping, and need more research done.
I expect that it's foolish to think the public would support any other idea, since we can't even agree as the group of people who are DOING it (vaping).
We just LOVE to argue, whether it's about watts/volts, 808/510, diacetyl, organizations, or now TC/power. We will not be denied, I guess.
I expect that it's foolish to think the public would support any other idea, since we can't even agree as the group of people who are DOING it (vaping).
We just LOVE to argue, whether it's about watts/volts, 808/510, diacetyl, organizations, or now TC/power. We will not be denied, I guess.
I dont even know what a ce4 atomizer is.
I just want someone to tell me if vaping on a P. mini with a GS Air or eggroll or Amor tank, @3.3-3.4V, 50/50 light menthol juice and 2mls per day is ok.
Because thats what I do day in and day out. It keeps me of cigs. It works for me. I dont want to find out some day that it may be almost as bad as smoking because I'm pretty sure I probably wont stop vaping my way.
Me too on both.
That's what I said too in another thread because we all know that data can be manipulated in many ways depending on the methods used.
Well, I certainly cant use it even if I wanted to. My provaris dont have TC and I plan to use them daily for ever.
I refuse to read another of these studies. I choose to remain happily ignorant until and IF a realistic, multi-reseacher study done by people I respect is done. And I want that research done by respected scientists who are not on FDA or BT or BP payroll.
I'm with you!
I hope you are right. I read a bit on that thread and I can't read more.I just want someone to provide me with the Cliff Notes version when everything has been hashed out, settled and confirmed. It's hard to take this very seriously when: 1) There's some new dangerous thing about vaping all the time and most of those things have not been proven to be true once the dust settles a bit; and 2) I soooo do not want it to be true!!!
I do not want to learn about temp control!!
Me Too !!!
My take is pretty simple on that cluster
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We were our own worse enemy. This all started back when just a good vape wasn't good enough. We simply had to push the envelope to the max. Guess we could say it got out of hand when sub ohm with a mechanical mod became popular. Since then the industry has been trying to find a way to do that safely.
IMO the answer is simple. Don't try to do that period! Settle for a great vape at reasonable power levels and be done with it. I vape in the 7-8 watt range.
.We were our own worse enemy. This all started back when just a good vape wasn't good enough. We simply had to push the envelope to the max. Guess we could say it got out of hand when sub ohm with a mechanical mod became popular. Since then the industry has been trying to find a way to do that safely.
IMO the answer is simple. Don't try to do that period! Settle for a great vape at reasonable power levels and be done with it. I vape in the 7-8 watt range.
Words of wisdom!!!My take is pretty simple on that cluster
We were our own worse enemy. This all started back when just a good vape wasn't good enough. We simply had to push the envelope to the max. Guess we could say it got out of hand when sub ohm with a mechanical mod became popular. Since then the industry has been trying to find a way to do that safely.
IMO the answer is simple. Don't try to do that period!
My take is pretty simple on that cluster
We were our own worse enemy. This all started back when just a good vape wasn't good enough. We simply had to push the envelope to the max. Guess we could say it got out of hand when sub ohm with a mechanical mod became popular. Since then the industry has been trying to find a way to do that safely.
IMO the answer is simple. Don't try to do that period! Settle for a great vape at reasonable power levels and be done with it. I vape in the 7-8 watt range.
Words of wisdom!!!
Agreed!!! X2
My take is that we had it right from the get-go, but then we kept trying to make it wrong.
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Talking about the TC thread with the formaldehyde scare. Which only became a problem when we couldn't settle for a good vape, we had to find a more powerful/complicated one.
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Talking about the TC thread with the formaldehyde scare. Which only became a problem when we couldn't settle for a good vape, we had to find a more powerful/complicated one.
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Been up since 4:30 getting hubby off to work! Lol, glad you don't have a hangover! Have a great day!Out the door and on my first jobsite by 6:00.
It's those 7-8 watt cloud machines that ruin it for all of us 6 watters!
OK, all three of us.
It's those 7-8 watt cloud machines that ruin it for all of us 6 watters!
OK, all three of us.
LOL!!!!
And ......
Other news of the day.
My grandson finishes his Masters.
With a 4.0 GPA no less.
Other news of the day.
My grandson finishes his Masters.
With a 4.0 GPA no less.
I accidentally woke my wife up when I was getting ready for work one time...let's just say i don't think she'll be getting up to make me coffee anytime soon. Maybe when the kids move out. Lol
Been up since 4:30 getting hubby off to work! Lol, glad you don't have a hangover! Have a great day!
Unh uh...My take is pretty simple on that cluster
We were our own worse enemy. This all started back when just a good vape wasn't good enough. We simply had to push the envelope to the max. Guess we could say it got out of hand when sub ohm with a mechanical mod became popular. Since then the industry has been trying to find a way to do that safely.
IMO the answer is simple. Don't try to do that period! Settle for a great vape at reasonable power levels and be done with it. I vape in the 7-8 watt range.
Respectfully, unless you're driving a Model A, listening exclusively to AM radio or recordings on wax tubes, cooking on a woodstove, etc...
Humankind has always tried to take that next step, and in part to make something BETTER.
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Congrats to your son! That's awesome. You must be so proud of him!And ......
Other news of the day.
My grandson finishes his Masters.
With a 4.0 GPA no less.
Masters in what btw?
Hi DP and all fellow tootle puffers!
Hi, Kate.
As you may (or may not) know I've been out of the loop for a bit as my husband had a laryngectomy due to throat cancer (he smoked cigarettes - unfortunately I couldn't persuade him to vape) and so last year was pretty difficult - no time for ECF or anything else really. I did manage a few emails to our Health Minister, the BBC etc. to challenge a few things (it may be better here in the UK than in many places but we still have a pretty steep hill to climb). Hubby is doing really well now and coping with life as a 'neck breather' but it has made even more determined to question misinformation/ misinterpretation which may put people off vaping or send anyone back to cigarettes. There is nothing that I can see in the study* to contradict Dr F's stance re: avoid dry hits and certainly nothing which suggests TC is better (or worse) than watts (at tootle puffer level anyway) or to challenge the RCP's findings. The Royal College of Physicians did look at over 200 studies to reach their 'at least 95% safer' conclusions in 2016 and I shall continue to listen to them (I have no doubt they will adjust their findings if the science merits it) and the likes of Dr F. who look at these things in a vaping-context.(*and that is definitely my last comment re: wang study here or elsewhere
) Oh and congrats to @tj99959 's grandson
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