Topping off a carto one juice on top of another?

[FRANKSTER]

I was just wondering if people were experiencing the same problems I am having topping off a carto with one juice on top of another. I am a very heavy vaper, I would say I use approx 8ml per day of juice.

I use as my cartos smoke tech 1.7 ohms xl and dc 1.5ohms smoke tech. No matter how much I like a juice, I just cannot vape it all day long. I usually have 2 cartos going at the same time. When I get tired of a juice, I will top off the carto with a different juice...I seem to only get a easy draw on a carto for one day.

By the second day, I start getting a tight draw which makes the vape almost useless for me. I cannot seem to get a carto to perform with a easy draw on day 2. I toss out cartos after 2 days. This becomes very expensive. I do not like atomizers or tanks. I use only cartos and I use juices that are 70/30 pg/vg.

I use the syringe method on the initial top off and then I use drops on subsequent tops offs. I read that people get 2 to 3 weeks on a carto..I do not know how you can possibly get an easy draw going that long unless you are a light vaper. Does anyone have some tricks and tips to make a carto perform better for maybe a day or 2 longer?

I do not clean my cartos using the boiling method or any other method for that matter,so that is not an option for me. I have tried the boiling method but I find it not worth the effort. Any ideas would be appreciated.

 

[DMF]

Aside from cleaning (which really does add to the life of a carto) You can check the bottom of the carto (where it looks like this (o), the part where it screws in to the pv) Take a penny and gently turn the bottom piece 1/4 turn I am assuming righty tighty lefty loosy, I have noticed after a while I have to turn in the opposite direction if it's turned too far to the right as it can make the liquid leak a bit.
That can help with the draw, because as you screw it in to the pv over and over it will turn on it's own slightly.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Aside from cleaning (which really does add to the life of a carto) You can check the bottom of the carto (where it looks like this (o), the part where it screws in to the pv) Take a penny and gently turn the bottom piece 1/4 turn I am assuming righty tighty lefty loosy, I have noticed after a while I have to turn in the opposite direction if it's turned too far to the right as it can make the liquid leak a bit.
That can help with the draw, because as you screw it in to the pv over and over it will turn on it's own slightly.

I never heard this before, a penny will turn the bottom part? I have to try that. Thanks

 

[Malloc]

A tight draw could indicate the center tube is clogged. Take a straightened paperclip and insert it into the center hole on the 510 connector.

 

[donnah]

The juice you use has much to do with it. I used to only get one good when I was buying from a certain vendor. I now diy my own juice and get at least a week before I begin to think about a new carto. I don't clean my cartos anymore

 

[ninfreak]

if you use sweet and/or dark juices juices you will not ever get more than a few days of it...i diy clear unsweetned mixes and get 1-3 weeks out of a carto. higher vg blends will also clog a carto much sooner

 

[FRANKSTER]

A tight draw could indicate the center tube is clogged. Take a straightened paperclip and insert it into the center hole on the 510 connector.

Thanks...you are talking about the battery end of the carto, I assume because I have tried sticking a pin in the center hole in the filler part...guess, I had wrong end...thanks

 

[orachel]

I totally disagree with nin, respectfully, of course... That used to be the norm, but that is flat out not true with a lot of the better juice makers (notice I said 'better' and not 'more expensive'? There's a major difference in quality ingredients). I know a lot of places make dark sludgy sweet juice, but that doesn't have to be the norm. I use primarily only sweet juices... stuff like Cinnamon Danish Swirl, and Blueberry Cheesecake, and always in 100% vg (which is much much thicker than regular) and I've been using the same cartos for going on 3 mos. It has a TON to do with the quality of your juice. I vape Virgin Vapor and The Vapor Room (which has awesome $10 for ounce specials each week, plus free half ounce for new clients, also has great tobacco flavors), almost all are bakery sweet flavors, and I rarely lose a carto within the first month and a half, of constant top offs, and I'm a SUPER heavy vaper. Neither of those vendors has super dark liquids, though. Give a different vendor a whirl, and try out the lighter colored sweet ones. Makes a HUGE world of difference. Another vendor with good tobacco flavors that aren't super dark are the GP Flavorfull line at Good Prophets. I have bought sweet juices from other vendors that are sludgy and super dark, and they are absolutely carto killers. But trust me, out there is a vendor who will make a better quality version of that product that won't murder your cartos.

I occasionally top off one with another, but only if I'm trying to mix the flavors. Try this... first, keep a carto for each flavor you vape. Even if you're a guys, and have only a pocket, carrying an extra carto in its condoms is a tiny thing. When I go out and about I often take an ego case with diff flavors in diff cartos in it, but even if I'm just going for a bit, almost always have another carto in my pocket or car. That's easy to do with boge type cartos, cause they have top and bottom condoms, but some other styles, like resurrectors, have only bottom. So I keep a driptip on the ones with only a bottom, or I steal a condom from an old one to cover em top and bottom, so you'll have no leaking on the spare. That way you can switch flavors in less than 30 seconds if you want to, you'll have nicer flavor, and can eliminate that mixing as a source of your carto problems.

 

[FRANKSTER]

I ran an experiment to see how long a 1.7 smoke tech xl would last using just one juice. The juice was Vaperite's Rao's natural toasted hazelnut. I think this juice is 50/50 pg/bg at 26mg. I did not even get 24 hours. After about 6 hours, the draw started to tighten. This is totally unacceptable for a carto.

Has anyone tried something like this...I really cannot afford to use one carto per day and I cannot get all my juices in 70/30 pg/vg. They do not all give you a choice. If you do not mind a tight draw, this is not a big deal. For me, I want at least 3 days of a smooth draw. Is this too much to ask for?

 

[Slurp812]

Have you tried pushing a straightened out paperclip through the center hole?

 

[donnah]

I'm using the same 1.7ohm smoktech and it's been going over a week and the draw is still smooth. It's not the carto.. it's the juice. No.. it's not too much to ask for.

It has a TON to do with the quality of your juice. I vape Virgin Vapor and The Vapor Room (which has awesome $10 for ounce specials each week, plus free half ounce for new clients, also has great tobacco flavors), almost all are bakery sweet flavors, and I rarely lose a carto within the first month and a half, of constant top offs, and I'm a SUPER heavy vaper. Neither of those vendors has super dark liquids, though. Give a different vendor a whirl, and try out the lighter colored sweet ones. Makes a HUGE world of difference. Another vendor with good tobacco flavors that aren't super dark are the GP Flavorfull line at Good Prophets. I have bought sweet juices from other vendors that are sludgy and super dark, and they are absolutely carto killers. But trust me, out there is a vendor who will make a better quality version of that product that won't murder your cartos.

I totally agree with this. I did a side by side test on different vendor juices on the same type carto. One carto lasted one day while the other lasted well over a week. As much as I love tasty vapor juices, I don't use them anymore because of this. Kickbassvapor also had carto friendly juices. or at least warm sugar cookie is carto friendly. It took me a while to convince that it was my juice that was the problem but it was and now I don't have that problem anymore.

 

[FRANKSTER]

Have you tried pushing a straightened out paperclip through the center hole?

That does not work at all. tahanks

 

[FRANKSTER]

I'm using the same 1.7ohm smoktech and it's been going over a week and the draw is still smooth. It's not the carto.. it's the juice. No.. it's not too much to ask for.

What type juice are you using?

 

[donnah]

I mostly diy my juices, the ratio of vg and pg doesn't seem to have anything to do with carto longevity. I don't mix my flavors over 10% of my mix...usually 5% or less. I did mention that kickbassvapor's warm sugar cookie is very carto friendly ( I was using it 70/30 Pg/VG) and there were a couple other vendors mentioned above (Virgin vapor and the vapor room) that Orachel mentioned. I haven't tried these vendors but I am going to take a look. A few weeks ago I tried to get a thread together listing carto friendly juices but apparently most people don't care and posted that cartos were cheap. If they're not lasting over 1 day, it gets expensive!

Some people talk of getting months and months out of a single carto with no cleaning. Unless the carto was performing super great, I don't know if I would keep one that long. No telling what is on the bottom of these things after that long. Also, if you really want to get longevity, try vaping unflavored. I keep a mix of just Nic, in Pg and add some VG. no flavors or sweetener. Many of us vape that and it's pretty good and will last a LONG time in a carto. I think I saw where you sold your diy supplies but many vendors sell unflavored juice.

 

[FRANKSTER]

I mostly diy my juices, the ratio of vg and pg doesn't seem to have anything to do with carto longevity. I don't mix my flavors over 10% of my mix...usually 5% or less. I did mention that kickbassvapor's warm sugar cookie is very carto friendly ( I was using it 70/30 Pg/VG) and there were a couple other vendors mentioned above (Virgin vapor and the vapor room) that Orachel mentioned. I haven't tried these vendors but I am going to take a look. A few weeks ago I tried to get a thread together listing carto friendly juices but apparently most people don't care and posted that cartos were cheap. If they're not lasting over 1 day, it gets expensive!

Some people talk of getting months and months out of a single carto with no cleaning. Unless the carto was performing super great, I don't know if I would keep one that long. No telling what is on the bottom of these things after that long. Also, if you really want to get longevity, try vaping unflavored. I keep a mix of just Nic, in Pg and add some VG. no flavors or sweetener. Many of us vape that and it's pretty good and will last a LONG time in a carto. I think I saw where you sold your diy supplies but many vendors sell unflavored juice.

Hello there, sure, cartos are cheap if you go 2 weeks on a carto. I do not know how a carto can last that long and perform at all. I hear all these great things about the 1.7 ohm, but the performance in my opinion is not good. I make sure I top off a carto right and I make sure they are dry and ready to go, but one day...that is out of hand.

I really cannot do many things that people suggest because I vape only certain juices and I am not about to change that after it took me 5 months to find something that I like. I cannot understand why all vendors do not give you that choice of ratio. I think 70/30 or 80/20 are perfect. I need a better carto. I cannot think of anything else.

 

[donnah]

Your PG/VG ratio shouldn't have anything to do with how long a carto lasts. I use the same ratio and yes, I can get a couple weeks out of a resurrector. I didn't want to quit using my vendor either but it was either that or keep buying cartos all the time or quit vaping and go back to smoking (which was NOT an option). What exactly are the juices you use and who sells them, if I may ask.

I have been down this road before. You can spend money trying to find equiptment that will work with your juice or you can find juice that will work with your equiptment. If you'll PM me your address, I'll send you some that you can use in a carto for at least a week.

 

[okcodemonkey]

Hello there, sure, cartos are cheap if you go 2 weeks on a carto. I do not know how a carto can last that long and perform at all. I hear all these great things about the 1.7 ohm, but the performance in my opinion is not good. I make sure I top off a carto right and I make sure they are dry and ready to go, but one day...that is out of hand.

I really cannot do many things that people suggest because I vape only certain juices and I am not about to change that after it took me 5 months to find something that I like. I cannot understand why all vendors do not give you that choice of ratio. I think 70/30 or 80/20 are perfect. I need a better carto. I cannot think of anything else.

I am going on 2 weeks (yesterday) on this boge 2.0 cartomizer vaping Bobas (100% VG) and it's still going like a champ. Now I am using a bottom feeder so maybe that helps. I just make sure to keep the cart wet. 12ml+ have gone through it.

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[mikebabs]

I hear you and feel your pain Frankster......Same thing here.....some juices can wreck a carto, doesn't matter what ohms, in one 1 day.....Some juices I can get at least three 3 days.....I vape around 3-4 mils a day......What most are saying here is right.....I hesitate to list what juices are carto killers, don't want to step on anyones toes......I will list a vendor that in my experience I get the MOST time out of a carto and its NiteLite vapor. I use 65pg 35vg.....

 

[FRANKSTER]

I hear you and feel your pain Frankster......Same thing here.....some juices can wreck a carto, doesn't matter what ohms, in one 1 day.....Some juices I can get at least three 3 days.....I vape around 3-4 mils a day......What most are saying here is right.....I hesitate to list what juices are carto killers, don't want to step on anyones toes......I will list a vendor that in my experience I get the MOST time out of a carto and its NiteLite vapor. I use 65pg 35vg.....

Hello there, I would not mind 3 days of a smooth draw. My problem is I am not going to sacrifice taste because of how the carto performs...if I have a juice I love and it will last only a day with a smooth draw, I am going to have to live with it.

My problem lies with everything I read on here concerning how long these cartos last. People use cartos for 2 to 3 weeks and still have a smooth draw. I do not see how that is possible unless you have 5 cartos going at the same time and you are not a heavy vaper.

I vape all day long. I need a higher pg/vg ratio but not all vendors give you this choice...that is one problem, the secong problem is that these cartos are not good enough for a heavy vapor. I just do not know?

 

[FRANKSTER]

I am going on 2 weeks (yesterday) on this boge 2.0 cartomizer vaping Bobas (100% VG) and it's still going like a champ. Now I am using a bottom feeder so maybe that helps. I just make sure to keep the cart wet. 12ml+ have gone through it.

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I really do not know how you are doing a 100vg for 2 weeks and still getting a smooth drag...good for you, I cannot get 2 good days.