Total newb - Subtank Mini !

[tawheed]

Good day all,

First off I'd like to say I've been lurking on this forum like crazy while trying to learn about the smoke and mirrors that vaping can appear to be to a n00b.

I finally worked up the guts to walk in to a local B&M to see if I could find something to compare with the hookahs I've been smoking for the last 10-15 years. They were extremely friendly and sold me an Atlantis with a CF Sub OHM battery - I was BLOWN away by the vapour production and the flavour that this thing was kicking out. After using it for a week or so I noticed I continuously ended up with e-juice on my tongue and in my mouth. I was convinced I needed to step up my game and get something new.

I ordered a Subtank Mini along with a Sigelei 50w vr2 mod from a Canadian retailer. They finally showed up yesterday, after all the reading I've done it would seem that the subtank with the 0.5 ohm OCC should vape best at around 20w. So I juiced it up, tossed in a battery and fired it up - I couldn't believe how hot the vapour was - my entire mouth was very hot and mostly the drip tip. I've been messing around with it and am finding that I can't handle the heat comfortably of anything over 7w. Keep in mind I'm taking long direct to lung draws, with the airflow hole on maximum air flow with 0mg juice.

What am I doing wrong? I tried putting the atlantis on the sigelei and when it's not spitting juice it's giving me very good flavour and huge vapour production at around 22w. I also tried putting the 1.2 ohm OCC coil in the subtank mini and found a decent spot at around 15-17w, however the vapour production is quite disappointing.

Look forward to any advice that you have

 

[mesamay2003]

Are you pulling really hard and fast when drawing on the subtank mini??

 

[JRohrer]

I too have found that the subtank runs hot. You may want to look into a different drip tip. I have a delrin (Heat resistant plastic) wide bore tip that I like. You can also get small delerin bottom pieces that you can put you preferred drip tip in. This may help to cool the drip tip. See the attached photo.

 

[tawheed]

Are you pulling really hard and fast when drawing on the subtank mini??

Not overly hard or fast.. I've tried going harder and faster too and on low wattage I start getting coil flavour. It's so hot though that as soon as I hit the button and try and draw I feel overwhelmed by the heat. My atlantis tip doesn't fit on the mini - should any other 510 tip fit okay?

thanks

 

[JB69]

You shouldn't have any problems finding a suitable tip for the mini. Pretty much any "510" tip should be good to go, although some of them will be a bit less snug. I've got the full size (25mm) sub-tank, and it was a much warmer vape than my previous tank (Kanger Aero) but I quickly got used to it.

 

[mesamay2003]

I run the subtank mini at about 22 watts with the .5 ohm coils, and while it produces warmer vapor than my previous tank (EMOW Mega), it is not uncomfortably warm, and there is no issue with the drip tip getting hot. What kind of juice are you using? What is the coil reading on the Segelei?

 

[USMCotaku]

I've not experienced this problem with mine. The .5 coil IS warmer, but not hot, and the 1.2 gives as much vape as the sub ohm, but much cooler.
I've found that when I rebuild the occ coils, I prefer the vape of a 1.2 ohm macro, 26 gauge kanthal, 10 wraps on a 3mm bit, not spaced (I torch and pinch them together). I get more vapor production at a cooler temp when run at the same wattage of a sub ohm build (24-25 watts is my sweet spot)
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[tawheed]

I'm not at the point of rebuilding yet.. found second airhole at 7w seems to not be too hot with 0.5

 

[Kloverz158]

Subtank always run hot so your not alone on that either lower you watt or get a new drip tip like delrin or glass.

 

[AvgJoeVapes]

Hmm, I have the mini and run it at 25w with the 0.5 ohm coil head and, yes, it gets warm but I wouldn't say hot. Not really sure what that would be.

 

[underwhelmd]

You'll enjoy your mini a lot more with a different tip. I don't like the heat either. I didn't find it as extreme as you... but I can understand not liking it!

I bought pyrex glass tips for my subtanks. No heat at all transfered into these. Easy to clean. And cheap.

good luck.

 

[Paramaniac413]

I had to get a long drip tip for my mini as well. I'm going to run to the shop tomorrow (before it snows again Saturday) to find either a longer drip tip or something that won't conduct the heat like the short one on my nano does. This is what I had on my mini:

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[underwhelmd]

This is what I had on my mini:

Holy cow, you could perform a Tracheotomy with that. LOL.... I kid, I kid. It's cool.

 

[inspects]

Like others said, they do run warm...its the drip tip being metal.

 

[Paramaniac413]

Holy cow, you could perform a Tracheotomy with that. LOL.... I kid, I kid. It's cool.

LOL! Probably! I like to call that my, "holy jiminie cricket, it's cold out here, the dog can't find the 'perfect spot,' so I'll just keep my hands in my sleeves and vape" drip tip. lol

 

[tawheed]

Where can I order a Pyrex drip tip to fit the Subtank Mini in Canada?

Thanks!

 

[tawheed]

You'll enjoy your mini a lot more with a different tip. I don't like the heat either. I didn't find it as extreme as you... but I can understand not liking it!

I bought pyrex glass tips for my subtanks. No heat at all transfered into these. Easy to clean. And cheap.

good luck.

Where can I get a pyrex drip tip to fit the mini in Canada? Thanks!

 

[JamieZ4M]

I don't think a heat resistant drip tip will help you a great deal as it won't cool the vapour down, the Subtank gives a warm Vape by design. I think your best bet would be a drip tip with airflow holes, so the warm Vape will mix with cool air as you inhale. Either that or a long drip tip as suggested

 

[anarkhos451]

Where can I get a pyrex drip tip to fit the mini in Canada? Thanks!

I don' know about 'in Canada' but the Where to Buy section on this forum is a good start.

 

[anarkhos451]

By the way I have a Subtank Mini as well and I run it on not an Aspire Sub Ohm battery or my Eleaf iStick 50w at about 25w and love it. Go watch Rip Tripper's YouTube videos on the subject. He's a freakin wealth of info. He'll have you dialing in your setup in no time.