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Tara1976

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hi everyone, I've just become a member on here today as I'm so unsure about my vaping and to be honest close to giving up on it though I don't really want to. I've been vaping now for about 6 weeks tho I have tried the odd unsuccessful time or two before and I havnt a clue what I should be using. My lips are cracking up and I've become almost afraid to use my vaping device. I have a mini kangertech and sometimes it makes a gurgling noise like there is juice escaping with the vape. Is this a low quality machine and should I upgrade to something else? Or am I using it wrong? Is there something I should be doing that I'm not doing right? I don't even know the right questions to ask lol. Any advice would be greatly appreciated x
 

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Which Kangertech mini do You own...and what atomizer?

Gurgling is an issue...and should not occur at all.

I'd recommend something like that: FastTech - Gadgets and Electronics

Batteries suitable for that: Sony VTC4, VTC5A, VTC6A, Samsung 25R, 30Q...LG HG2, HE4...

...and further informations from here!:)
 

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Welcome @Tara1976 and I hope you enjoy your stay~! I am sure you will get lots of help and many suggestions to allow you to keep on Vaping! For the lips cracking it sounds like you need to drink more water as vaping does make your lips and mouth dry or less moist. The gurgling sounds like a flooded coil or just needed to turn up the power a bit. If it isn't power then that coil needs changing.

Good Luck and Vape On Safely!~
 

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Welcome @Tara1976

Kanger (Kangertech) make lots of hardware. Quality is fairly standard, I would say. A more expensive tank is not necessarily better; I mean there are plenty of evil/greedy US brands that will try to persuade you their $59.99 tank is really good (and will bribe fake review websites to recommend it) but guess what? It's the same tank by Kanger.
The industry is full of this behaviour. Shameful.
Big (subohm) tanks tend to work best between a low & high setting. Too low; it'll gurgle and leak, too high; it'll burn.
You could try a different tank but don't fall for those con men, please. I'd be tempted to try a more gentle tank if you are vaping your current one at low settings.
 

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I've been vaping now for about 6 weeks [...] sometimes it makes a gurgling noise like there is juice escaping with the vape. [...] It's a kangertech sub mini

Like one of these?
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They're mass-produced in China, but they're not "poor" quality by any means. Fairly middle-of-the-road, I'd say. Not bad for a new vaper, if you enjoy the big airflow and "direct lung-inhale" style of vaping where you just "breathe in" straight from the device. Not so much, if you prefer the more "mouth-to-lung" style where you draw the vapor into your mouth first, like through a straw, and then breathe in. For that you need a really tight airflow, and while these sub-tanks can have their air choked off to some degree, it's not really what they're made for and it doesn't suit them all that well. Perhaps an Aspire Nautilus or Nautilus Mini, or maybe somebody can recommend a more modern counterpart?

How often have you changed the atomizer/"coil head" (the little removable part with cotton and wire in, that screws into the base of your tank from the inside), in those six weeks? Hopefully not "zero." Gurgling could be a sign that it's time for a new one, especially if it only started doing it lately. Your unit, if you bought it new, probably came with one prefab coil head (all-in-one, disposable) installed in it already as well as a spare one in the package with it, (the spare might be a different "resistance" than the pre-installed one -- if I remember correctly, mine had a 0.5-ohm one installed, and a 1.3 or maybe 1.5-ohm as the spare; the lower number will generally have larger wire and require more power, while the higher number will have thinner wire and use a lower power setting) and also a rebuildable "RBA" part (Re-Buildable Atomizer) where you have to take it apart and replace just the wick and wire inside of it. You don't have to use the RBA if you don't want to, but do keep it around as there will probably come a day when you will decide you do want to fiddle with it after all. For now, though, focus on the prefab one. Unscrew the tank from your device. Remove the mouthpiece (makes it easier to set the tank down in a minute), then turn it over and unscrew the bottom base part (like you would to fill it, unless you got the top-filling "TopTank" version), and set the top part down on a solid surface. Once the base is exposed, you can unscrew the atomizer from the base, then attach the replacement atomizer, "prime" the new atomizer by putting a drop or two of e-liquid on any exposed cotton on the sides and a little down the middle*, then refill and reassemble the tank (or reassemble then refill, if you have the top-fill version). You'll want to pick up some more spares too, probably from wherever you got it in the first place. How often they need changing really depends on too many factors to list all of them (do you use flavored or unflavored and if so, what flavor; nic, no nic, or NET; high power or low power; vape occasionally or all day long, etc., etc., etc.), but generally it's on the order of "a couple times a week" to "every couple weeks," depending. Eventually you will start to get a feel for it, but until then, if you think your coil might need changing, go ahead and change it. Better to have a fresh one when you don't need it, than keep using an old one longer than you should.

*(This can cause some slight gurgling initially, since it's easy to get too much liquid in there and get some down in the air path before the cotton soaks all of it up. This should self-remedy, though, after just a couple of vapes off of the new coil as it boils off the excess liquid. And it's still better than the alternative since, if you don't prime the coil, you run the risk of scorching the wick if you fire it before the cotton has been fully saturated. And once a wick is scorched or singed, it's all over, it will taste bad/burnt forever after.)

Sorry if you knew all that, it's hard to judge from across the 'net what people do and don't know already. Also what power level (watts setting) are you using on your device? (For that matter, what is your device? Did you get the whole kit with the device and tank together in one box, or did you get them separately?) Gurgling could also just be a sign of too-low a power setting; there's just not enough "oomph" to vaporize all the liquid fast enough, and so you end up with some still-unvaporized liquid getting into the airflow path. There's not much you can do about that except either turn up the power setting, or else use a thicker more syrupy (higher "VG" content) e-liquid. Or, again, just get a different tank entirely if the high-power, high-cloud, big-airflow style of the SubTank is not your particular cup of tea.
 
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I'm wondering why you started with a sub ohm tank unless that is what your local B & M suggested you buy?
That'd be my guess. I don't know what the scene is like in Northern Ireland, but around where I live (west coast USA) the shops tend to cater to the younger, hipster, look-at-my-big-ol'-clouds kind of crowd.
 

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hi everyone, I've just become a member on here today as I'm so unsure about my vaping and to be honest close to giving up on it though I don't really want to. I've been vaping now for about 6 weeks tho I have tried the odd unsuccessful time or two before and I havnt a clue what I should be using. My lips are cracking up and I've become almost afraid to use my vaping device. I have a mini kangertech and sometimes it makes a gurgling noise like there is juice escaping with the vape. Is this a low quality machine and should I upgrade to something else? Or am I using it wrong? Is there something I should be doing that I'm not doing right? I don't even know the right questions to ask lol. Any advice would be greatly appreciated x

What Steve said nails it:

Welcome @Tara1976 and I hope you enjoy your stay~! I am sure you will get lots of help and many suggestions to allow you to keep on Vaping! For the lips cracking it sounds like you need to drink more water as vaping does make your lips and mouth dry or less moist. The gurgling sounds like a flooded coil or just needed to turn up the power a bit. If it isn't power then that coil needs changing.

Good Luck and Vape On Safely!~

More water, as the liquid pulls water, flooded coils gurgle so increasing the power a bit at a time might resolve your issues.

About Kangertech, they were a fairly good company once upon a time but lots of quality issues in the last while, and they went from the "standard" that many stores used for their demos to being completely replaced as they had more and more issues with both the tanks and crappy coils. Their mods are fairly poor I find... they'll work fine on average but everyone I know that has a Kanger ends up with screws falling out and other stuff going on, but they do have a fan base for some reason.

For the last year or so, I don't think I've seen anything about Kanger that made "the news" for vapours (to grab their attention)... they are regarded as a starter/beginner's kit company at this point.

So increase you water intake, increase the power level a bit and see how that helps.
 
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hi everyone, I've just become a member on here today as I'm so unsure about my vaping and to be honest close to giving up on it though I don't really want to. I've been vaping now for about 6 weeks tho I have tried the odd unsuccessful time or two before and I havnt a clue what I should be using. My lips are cracking up and I've become almost afraid to use my vaping device. I have a mini kangertech and sometimes it makes a gurgling noise like there is juice escaping with the vape. Is this a low quality machine and should I upgrade to something else? Or am I using it wrong? Is there something I should be doing that I'm not doing right? I don't even know the right questions to ask lol. Any advice would be greatly appreciated x
May be a good idea to view some review videos on YouTube. Search Google on Kangertech Subtank mini and see if any come. This is be of more help than trying to read and understand all of these post if you are don't know the first thing about what you should and shouldn't expect from an ecig.

:)
 

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For the last year or so, I don't think I've seen anything about Kanger that made "the news" for vapours (to grab their attention)... they are regarded as a starter/beginner's kit company at this point.
I think I agree. I wouldn't buy their mods but if I had one, I'd be looking for a selection of atomizers to try out. Subtanks are OK but stuck between quality MTL tanks (like Nautilus) and far better subohm offerings.
 

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The first vaporizer I bought was a Kanger top box mini, then I bought a Eleaf Pico. The Kanger got me away from smoking my pipe that caused me to cough. I've never had a gurgling problem so I can't advise on that. Over all I think the Eleaf Pico is a better vaporizer and it cost about half the price of the Kanger. I get better flavor and vapor from the Pico and the navigation is better.
The problem with the Kanger should be fixable, if you have spare money you could buy the Pico, the atomizer for your vaporizer is 2.99.
 

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I think I agree. I wouldn't buy their mods but if I had one, I'd be looking for a selection of atomizers to try out. Subtanks are OK but stuck between quality MTL tanks (like Nautilus) and far better subohm offerings.

yeah, it's not that I want to diss Kanger, I loved my Aerotank, but it's just the quality that I see, and the stores (all of them around me) were all with Kanger tanks for their demos, and almost overnight, they all got rid of them, all stating that they were tired of issues with them. Somewhere at some point Kanger lost it.

Mod wise, I've never had a single store recommend a single Kanger mod ever, unless it was a store that's just a bad store (the type that are only in for the money and don't really have a clue about anything about vaping and what they were selling), and selling them way over-priced to beginners.
 

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Well, there are a bunch of us that must've been lucky with Kanger products for the last 3-4 years then. None of my Kanger products have broken, malfunctioned, or otherwise had to be trashed or put aside, including a variety of their tanks (PT3, Mini PT2 and PT3, Aerotanks and Minis, STM, TTM, TTN, etc.) I also have personally been using many different KangerTech kits and also getting them for people I help to switch to vaping from smoking. They're good kits for those wanting to find out if vaping "will work" for them, without having to invest a ton of money to find out. There are many who really like them and are still using many of them...even after switching totally to vaping...me included! Those have included the Kanger Double Evod kits, the Kanger Evod Mega Kits, the little TopTank Evod kits, and the Kanger Subvod kits, etc.

I have several Kanger 40W mods in my stash, and have passed along a couple to other people, too. So far, none of them have reported any problems with them.
 

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Well, there are a bunch of us that must've been lucky with Kanger products for the last 3-4 years then. None of my Kanger products have broken, malfunctioned, or otherwise had to be trashed or put aside, including a variety of their tanks (PT3, Mini PT2 and PT3, Aerotanks and Minis, STM, TTM, TTN, etc.) I also have personally been using many different KangerTech kits and also getting them for people I help to switch to vaping from smoking. They're good kits for those wanting to find out if vaping "will work" for them, without having to invest a ton of money to find out. There are many who really like them and are still using many of them...even after switching totally to vaping...me included! Those have included the Kanger Double Evod kits, the Kanger Evod Mega Kits, the little TopTank Evod kits, and the Kanger Subvod kits, etc.

I have several Kanger 40W mods in my stash, and have passed along a couple to other people, too. So far, none of them have reported any problems with them.

And that's great... like I said above, Kanger does have a fan base.. and some of their "older" stuff was fine, but at this time, I have not seen anything from Kanger getting much love, reviews are very bare, and when I see something from Kanger in the few stores that still carry them, they are always directed at beginners as the cheap (inexpensive) starter kits.

My opinion is similar to that of the Joytech RX line.. a huge seller, but I keep seeing people having serious issues with them, many end up trying to get rid of them, etc. and I wouldn't get one one myself.

Smok also has a few mods that are starting to show weaknesses, and while I like the smok mod I have (Xcube2), compared to the other mods I have, it's solely used for my RDAs on my desk, and won't probably get another Smok.
 

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For a bit of a different tank, I would suggest an Aspire Nautilus (full size, mini, or nautilus 2). The subtank is a bit harsher than the nautilus IMO.

As for dry lips, I nearly bought stock in the chapstick company when I started vaping. Until you get used to it, drink lots of water and use lip balm. I was never much of a water drinker, so I bought a lot of flavored water and stuff you shoot in water...anything to keep me hydrating.
 

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The problem is everyone of these new people buys a sub-ohm mod these days because it's cool...and that's what's on the market. Most haven't a clue about ohms, single coil, dual coils etc. We just want clouds these days. That is a real problem for those who just want to quit smoking. I actually think it was better a couple years ago when we started slow and learned to step up little by little. You don't need a kanger 200w mod to quit smoking especially if you don't know how to use it.
 
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