totallywicked insert disturbing as hell

[siggywiggy]

Dude I just got my totallywicked e-liquid and there was an insert along with my package that just scared the hell out of me.

It has a skull and crossbones and said "toxic if inhaled, toxic if contacts skin, toxic if swallowed, etc. etc. etc." Then it said, contact a doctor immediately if you swallow or come in contact with this liquid.

First of all, what is up with TOXIC IF INHALED?????? Dude, isn't that what we're supposed to DO WITH THE STUFF?

Second, the scull and crossbones were a bit on the freaky/disturbing side. Not something I want to see when I'm about to try a new flavor that I just ordered. Talk about a BUZZKILL!!!!!!

 

[CssReb]

LOL





It's probably because of the PG

Even toothpaste has a warning : If more than used for brushing is accidently swallowed,
get medical help or contact a Poison Control Center right away

 

[OutWest]

sounds perfectly reasonable to me. I've been thinking myself that the juice needed such a warning to help protect the vendor from sue-happy people (and protect the idiots from themselves)

nicotine is a poison, plain and simple. And, it is readily absorbed through the skin.

regarding the "toxic if inhaled" - I think they mean "aspirated".

 

[dc2k08]

ha ha, I guess he's playing strictly by the rules. pillbox is looking out for himself and will be the last man to ever get a charge against him by the sue-happies. I think that jolly roger is the international symbol for toxic.

 

[MAD 69]

That is a great idea. All makers of the juice should put toxic labels on it. If the FDA comes sniffing around you just tell them they are for aromatherapy and are not to be ingested, we really know what the liquid is for, end of problem.

 

[combovan]

That is a great idea. All makers of the juice should put toxic labels on it. If the FDA comes sniffing around you just tell them they are for aromatherapy and are not to be ingested, we really know what the liquid is for, end of problem.

I guess if we wanted to go that route we could just have an underground market kinda like water tobbaco pipes are sold legally in the usa for tobbacco consumption even though ive never seen em used for tobacco!

I think a better route would to try and slowly ease people into excepting them and warning labels is surely something that will ease a lot of potential problems with getting them accepted.

so cheers to TW
combovan

 

[Frankie]

Totally Wicked did the right thing. What they say is true, and should be said to anybody who purchases the poison. Nicotine IS toxic when inhaled. If we inhale it in spite of the warning, we do it at our own risk. Nobody can tell us when exactly we will reach the point of poisoning ourselves when inhaling e-liquid vapors.

I hope the other vendors follow suit soon. It is reasonable and good for everybody IMHO.

 

[surbitonPete]

Totally Wicked did the right thing. What they say is true, and should be said to anybody who purchases the poison. Nicotine IS toxic when inhaled. If we inhale it in spite of the warning, we do it at our own risk. Nobody can tell us when exactly we will reach the point of poisoning ourselves when inhaling e-liquid vapors.

I hope the other vendors follow suit soon. It is reasonable and good for everybody IMHO.

I fully agree Totally Wicked are doing exactly the right thing.

 

[pillbox38]

Everything on the Leaflets i now send out and on my bottle labels and packaging will be a requirement that any legitimate vendor will have to follow. All that is on there is the full CHIP requirements. Looks nasty when its read but it is unavoidable

Remember if Nicotine patches were not regulated by the MHRA then they would need to carry the same warnings..

 

[taz3cat]

did he list the stuff i it also. We wanted labeling and I am glad were getting it. It will not be anything we did not know, except what is in it ,besides pg and nicotine.

 

[pillbox38]

Taz Buy a bottle, its all on there...

 

[ROB26]

While it may be the right thing to do...it just makes me even more skeptical about these things, the whole time I've been vaping, I can't shake the idea that at some point, a conclusive study is going to come out and the results are going to show that I've been destroying my lungs at an alarming rate...the skull and crossbones insert definitely do not ease my anxiety over this issue! WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO DO SOME REAL STUDIES?

 

[surbitonPete]

It frightens the hell out of me reading the list of ingredients in most of the food I eat................chemicals sure don't sound good.....lol

 

[TECC.510 TITAN]

Rob if you have £5-£10 million then we can start tomorrow. Burning tobacco releases some seriously bad chemicals. It is opinion but based on qualified information that the only two active chemicals of any note in the fluids is PG and Nicotine.

The heat of the burning cigarette changes the chemical compounds in the tobacco leaf, this is a fact and in the morphing the cocktail of carcinogens is created and inhaled.

I have been informed on good authority the heat produced to vapourise the fluid will not be enough to m,orph the PG and the nicotine. Therefore it stands to reason it aint as bad.

The reason the Toxic warnings, the aquatic warnings and the rest is on the bottle and packaging is purely because of the toxicity of nicotine, as mentioned above eating a few nicotine patches would be seriously bad for your health.. Are they frowned on??? No .

Make your own mind up but maybe its best if it scares you to use neither, that is the only totally safe option...

 

[ROB26]

Tecc, I agree with you completely, I'm just shocked that no studies have been done...Currently I've only got 3 Million on hand, so I guess I can't do my own studies. lol...Anyhow, I'm not bashing the e-cig, (something that clearly upsets people) I'm simply stating that it remains to be a concern of mine. I currently justify my e-cig use because I am indeed seeing real results! I have cut my cig habit from a pack a day to 3-5 smokes per dayThat is what I call progress! And yes, my ultimate goal is indeed to stop smoking all together. I just found it amusing that one would go as far as putting a skull and crossbones on an insert, honestly, it's more humorous than scary.

 

[taz3cat]

Pillbox, someone posted your ingrediants, did not say what flavor. but , NONE of the flavorings were on my toxic list and we already get SOME OF THE FLAVORS if we smoking analogs, only in a toxic manner. Thanks very much Pillbox. I will order soon from you.

The flavors we get from analogs are listed as toxic but not as a flavoring in normal flavoring lists. Did not want omeone to say I did not do a good search.

 

[TECC.510 TITAN]

Hi Rob

I think your correct its crazy we have had to do it some respects but as a matter of prudence it really isnt.

Once i fully got my head round how little it would take to knock a 20 stone wrestler out, i now am happy i took the option to start childproofing and adding full warnings and tactile labels.

If a child killed themselves because i was after a quick buck then i could not live with that. If it costs me sales for being truthful then so be it.. Trust me the decision was not taken lightly, then to action was a minefield of problems. Childproofing cartridges bearing in mind we sell a few a month could only be done by going to china to explain and walk them through.

5 kits and 10 sets of cartridge containers and boxes have had to be re-designed. We have had to buy bottles, tactile labels etc.

the wicked fluid now is virtually the finished product.. By the way trading standards would not have let us continue, in december we got served a suspension notice.. Its been a long but worthwhile journey so far...

 

[Kate]

This is just honest labelling. If we choose to inhale toxins (as we did with tobacco smoke) then we should be educated and informed of the potential harm.

If we aren't told it's dangerous then it could be murder, if we are told then it could only be suicide - personal informed choice.

 

[Frankie]

...and if Jolly Roger seems disturbing, just wait and see the pictures of eviscerated smokers on all analog packs as proposed by our self-constituted masters from the EU Commission...

 

[Chrissie]

Frankie, that is already happening in the UK - packs of analog cigs with disturbing pictures on them :-(

Exactly surbitonPete, everything we eat or drink these days may be possibly harmful to us. We just need to make a choice about what may be less harmful.

I & many others have been vaping for several months & apart from this forum I'm getting feedback from the eBay group I set up, so many people going back to doing activities like swimming & cycling due to using e-cigs instead of analogues.