Transition to a Mechanical

[NOMINDTR]

Hello,

I have been posting questions for a while about mechanical mods and received quite a help from senior members. Thanks to them.

I am thinking of buying a rebuildable, tank (not a dripping automizer) and to use it with the ego batteries I have. I understand I can use a 510-eGo adapter. I believe this would help me to learn building coils. This could help me to deal with the troubles of automizer alone initially. I could deal with the safety of batteries in second stage when I put the build automizer on the top of a mechanical mod. ( Personally, for no reason I don't like a hybrid/protected mod to practice coil building )

Is this a good idea to have a smooth transition towards mechanical? And, am I making sense?

Thanks

 

[ElConquistador]

I have an old ego battery in my rebuilding box that I use to dry-burn my Kayfuns when I'm replacing the wicks. It certainly heats the coils up, so I guess it would work OK to vape with. So I guess for practicing your coil building, it would work. Not the ideal battery, but if it'll supply power to the coil, it will heat things up.

 

[kde01]

I think the best way to get into it would be to buy both a tank and a mechanical mod used. You can use your ego battery with a rebuildable tank but unless you get something like a Spheroid, Kayfun Mini, or a Penelope V3 you'll find the tank to be very topheavy.

Then again you can go ahead and pickup something like one of the three I mentioned above and keep using that Ego til it dies. You just need to make sure you've got a setup that look and feels right or else you won't take it with you.

 

[NOMINDTR]

Thanks @ElConquistador and @kde01

Can I understand that a carefully chosen one like Kayfun Mini and a heavy ego battery could help me vape for a while?, if not all the day

 

[ElConquistador]

Personally, I think instead of an ego battery, I would look for a fairly inexpensive VV/VW battery, like an iTaste MVP or a Vamo. I agree a tank is going be be pretty top-heavy on an ego battery. I've tried a standard protank on my ego sized batteries and it's awkward.

 

[NOMINDTR]

Personally, I think instead of an ego battery, I would look for a fairly inexpensive VV/VW battery, like an iTaste MVP or a Vamo. I agree a tank is going be be pretty top-heavy on an ego battery. I've tried a standard protank on my ego sized batteries and it's awkward.

Seems like "transition" is not advisable

 

[ElConquistador]

Well, I guess my "transition" took about a year and a half. I went from ego to Vamo and a couple of iTaste VV3's (somewhere in here I started rebuilding my Protanks and T3 coils), added a couple of Kayfuns, then a Provari, and finally a Reo Mech mod. I should say I was quite happy with each step of the way. All of my batteries still work just fine, so I've got backups of backups of backups.

I wouldn't worry about starting out on a variable voltage/wattage device at all, there is pretty much no transition, they are just nicer to use. The mech is unforgiving if you screw up a coil or use the wrong batteries.

 

[edyle]

Hello,

I have been posting questions for a while about mechanical mods and received quite a help from senior members. Thanks to them.

I am thinking of buying a rebuildable, tank (not a dripping automizer) and to use it with the ego batteries I have. I understand I can use a 510-eGo adapter. I believe this would help me to learn building coils. This could help me to deal with the troubles of automizer alone initially. I could deal with the safety of batteries in second stage when I put the build automizer on the top of a mechanical mod. ( Personally, for no reason I don't like a hybrid/protected mod to practice coil building )

Is this a good idea to have a smooth transition towards mechanical? And, am I making sense?

Thanks

Yes; you can just use 30 gauge wire and build 2 ohm coils;

But it would be easier with a vv/vw mod which could show you your coil resistance while in operation, and you could tweak volts/watts according to taste.

You won't need a 510-eGo adapter; the eGo batteries come with 510 and eGo threads.

 

[kde01]

Thanks @ElConquistador and @kde01

Can I understand that a carefully chosen one like Kayfun Mini and a heavy ego battery could help me vape for a while?, if not all the day

@ElConquistador's suggestion of an MVP will definitely get you through the day, but I don't think an ego will. If you want an all-day-capable mechanical mod I would get something fairly cheap with a Samsung 2500 mAh 18650. Even better would be a VW/VV mod. Something like a Raptor mod. Any VW/VV mod with dual 18650s will get you through one day and most of the next, even at max watts. I had a 60W Raptor device I would run at 60W all the time and it would hold up for 2 days, easily. That's with a long period of chain vaping after I would get home from work.

If you want something safe and reliable get yourself a VW/VV box. Secondhand is fine (check out the classifieds). If you want a mech mod (which I prefer, mostly for ergonomics) then just make sure you build your coils over 1.2 ohms or so and run an 18650 battery. Using the battery drain calculator on steam-engine.org you can get 761 5-second puffs off a 1.5 ohm coil.

What would be the best of the best, in my humble opinion, would be the best of both worlds - a GG Esterigon, GG Tilemahos, and wait for the GG VIR chip to come out in January. The Tilemahos is a tank that beats the Kayfun, hands down. Better flavor and vapor, and a more open air draw. The Esterigon is made for that atomizer and has a great side fire button. In January when the new VIR chip will come out and you will be able to regulate your atomizer by temperature. Not only will this allow for a safer vape (you will avoid dry hits and extreme temperatures in your atomizer) but at a medium-to-cool vape you will preserve battery life.

Another option is something like a Reo or a Billet Box, which will hold enough juice AND battery life for all-day-vaping.

You have a lot of options, all quite good. But to minimize the total amount spent I would think hard about what your next step will be. Will you stay with mech mods, or will you go with VW/VV mods?

 

[NOMINDTR]

OK. A VV/VW is the suggestion from all of you. That's great.
Any specific Vamo, Innokin models are good?

@kde01 To be honest, I have to Google to see what are all the models you mentioned, and will do.

 

[NOMINDTR]

Innoking iTaste VV/VW 3.0 seems to be good but it's only 800 mAh battery...

 

[kde01]

One of the reasons I prefer mech mods is that I can replace the parts and fix any issues myself. One of the reasons I prefer regulated mods is that I can be less careful when building my coils.

With a regulated mod the chip protects you from stupid mistakes. With a mech mod you're only as protected as the knowledge you have. But if something goes wrong with a regulated mod you need to send it to the manufacturer to fix it. If I see something going wrong on my mech mod I can take it apart to clean or fix that one part that is giving me a problem. For example, if my 510 connection on my regulated mod is having trouble adjusting or gets completely stuck I need to send the mod out and will not received it for 4-5 days. Surely this would be longer if you're shipping from India (unless you have a local seller that can perform maintenance). With a mechanical mod you can order an extra bottom switch assembly and a 510 connector for ~US$30 to have as a backup and make the change as necessary.

Innokin makes good products and something like an MVP 2.0 will serve you well. But a mechanical mod will have less chance of a failure you cannot fix.

 

[edyle]

OK. A VV/VW is the suggestion from all of you. That's great.
Any specific Vamo, Innokin models are good?

@kde01 To be honest, I have to Google to see what are all the models you mentioned, and will do.

Latest edition of the vamo is the v6; you might get the v5's significantly cheaper other people pointed out to me.
There's the innokin svd.

There's the zmax; that's a single button mod. smoktech SID also single button mod.

 

[NOMINDTR]

@edyle

Yes. was reading the specs of zmax today

@kde01

Yes. Replacing, fixing things from India is difficult, even impossible at times. The thought I gave to a VV/VW is due to the fact that I could not find a LiMn battery available online for purchase in India. Sony India is not responding to my queries. I could see only ICR. Not a good start right ?

 

[NOMINDTR]

And, I could not make an order with an Indian shipping address with some US sites. Not talking about every US vendor though

 

[kde01]

And, I could not make an order with an Indian shipping address with some US sites. Not talking about every US vendor though

You don't need to order from US sites. I actually rarely order anything but juice and batteries from US sites! Take a look at this site - they have a big selection and offer free worldwide shipping for orders over 50 euro. I'll let you decide whether you want regulated or mech mod, but I think this vendor is a good place to start looking! You can also pickup the Sony VTC4 battery now while it is in stock. Grab several and keep them - they're great for both mechanical mods and regulated mods!

 

[NOMINDTR]

You don't need to order from US sites. I actually rarely order anything but juice and batteries from US sites! Take a look at this site - they have a big selection and offer free worldwide shipping for orders over 50 euro. I'll let you decide whether you want regulated or mech mod, but I think this vendor is a good place to start looking! You can also pickup the Sony VTC4 battery now while it is in stock. Grab several and keep them - they're great for both mechanical mods and regulated mods!

Thanks. I have been ordering from fasttech. But sony batteries are not available there. Will check this site.

 

[kde01]

Careful with Fasttech, even their batteries can be fakes. You need to be careful when it comes to mechanical mods. If you build too low resistance on a fake battery you can have serious problems.


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[NOMINDTR]

Careful with Fasttech, even their batteries can be fakes. You need to be careful when it comes to mechanical mods. If you build too low resistance on a fake battery you can have serious problems.


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Sure.. will take care. Thanks.