troble with my carto tank

[c.chalie]

ok so i did alot of reading on these tanks, and well what i cam up with was to cut a slit in the ONE side where the little hole is, so i did that, just a tiny little slit, due to the pre-punched hole that is already there dont suck up the juice so the carto runs dry. so i put it all back togeather, filled the tank back up, let it sit for an hour, and the filler is still dry in the inside, so i cut it a little tiny bit bigger and now it is always flooding.

so, whats the deal with this, all the vids i watched on this and i made sure to cut the slits just like he did in the vid. but i dont get whats up, i was told by everyone these tanks was saposed to be incredible.

PLEASE HELP

 

[my4jewels]

What kind of tank and carto are you using?

 

[ninfreak]

with a tank the filler will always look dry on top, it wicks to the coil, not staurate the filling. slits are notorious with flooding.. increasing hole size is better. i assume your using the dual coil cartos, slits are a very bad idea there.

 

[c.chalie]

Tube Tank

and the carto that came with it, but also tried the pre-punched cartos from Nhaler.com

 

[Spazmelda]

Tanks are great, but getting everything just right can have a bit of a learning curve.

From what you wrote, I'd go with a slit the size you originally cut. If the filler doesn't wick up the liquid right away you can try a few things. You can try priming the filler by filling it up by dripping first. Often that's enough to get the liquid moving from the tank to the filler.

You can try blowing on the carto to get the liquid moving in. If this works you will see little bubbles coming up from the slot you cut. You can also try putting your finger over the battery end and sucking (gently, you don't want a mouthful of liquid) on the carto end. That will often draw liquid into the filler (again you should see bubbles if this is working).

Usually, once you get the liquid moving after the first fill, it will wick correctly afterwards.

If you think your slot is too big now, you might be able to cover the slot with a cut off condom with a smaller slot in it. I've found that once I've got a carto that floods, it's better to just throw it away and count it as a loss. I get too frustrated with trying to make it work.

Sometimes you'll just get a carto that doesn't work. Whether it's due to the hole you've made, or just a weird carto, I don't know, but it just happens. I wasted a few cartos when I was first learning to use a tank, and it was frustrating. I was thinking, "If this is the way tanks are going to be I can't see justifying this waste", but now I rarely lose a carto due to improper wicking. So, once you get the technique down, you will see how great a tank can be.

 

[c.chalie]

but i dont even taste the juice, you get that pain in ur throught you do from a dry hit, you know what i mean right, it has that dry taste and burn

 

[c.chalie]

Tanks are great, but getting everything just right can have a bit of a learning curve.

From what you wrote, I'd go with a slit the size you originally cut. If the filler doesn't wick up the liquid right away you can try a few things. You can try priming the filler by filling it up by dripping first. Often that's enough to get the liquid moving from the tank to the filler.


You can try blowing on the carto to get the liquid moving in. If this works you will see little bubbles coming up from the slot you cut. You can also try putting your finger over the battery end and sucking (gently, you don't want a mouthful of liquid) on the carto end. That will often draw liquid into the filler (again you should see bubbles if this is working).

Usually, once you get the liquid moving after the first fill, it will wick correctly afterwards.

If you think your slot is too big now, you might be able to cover the slot with a cut off condom with a smaller slot in it. I've found that once I've got a carto that floods, it's better to just throw it away and count it as a loss. I get too frustrated with trying to make it work.

Sometimes you'll just get a carto that doesn't work. Whether it's due to the hole you've made, or just a weird carto, I don't know, but it just happens. I wasted a few cartos when I was first learning to use a tank, and it was frustrating. I was thinking, "If this is the way tanks are going to be I can't see justifying this waste", but now I rarely lose a carto due to improper wicking. So, once you get the technique down, you will see how great a tank can be.

ok ill give it a shot, but also what are the chances that i tried 2 cartos and both dont work, but when i get home ill try out these tricks, thanks for your help. wish me luck as i want this tank to work so bad, it sucks carrying bottles of juice everywhere.

if it dont work i guess ima have to put it up for sale or trade here.

 

[Spazmelda]

Which of the nhaler cartos did you get? It looks like there are a bunch of choices on the website.

 

[c.chalie]

XL-510 2.5 ohm and ce2-xl 3.0 ohm

got 2 diffrent ones so i can test them out and try to find my sweet spot ...if you know what i mean

 

[Spazmelda]

ok ill give it a shot, but also what are the chances that i tried 2 cartos and both dont work, but when i get home ill try out these tricks, thanks for your help. wish me luck as i want this tank to work so bad, it sucks carrying bottles of juice everywhere.

if it dont work i guess ima have to put it up for sale or trade here.

Well, don't give up yet. I use tanks exclusively and the convenience is worth all the trial and error I had in the beginning. I also hate filling cartos, and I'm not going to carry juice around with me. I've got two small kids, and I don't want to have juice bottles laying around, so tanks are perfect for me.

I think that the first slot you made was probably fine (as far as size), just for some reason you didn't get the flow into the filler. If that doesn't happen there's some sort of pressure or wicking thing that won't happen. Once the filler gets properly wet around the coil, the wicking should work.

Now, if you are using dual coils I will have to say that I have no experience with those, but I've heard they can be different than regular cartos in a tank, and my advice won't be applicable.

 

[Spazmelda]

Okay, I see. I don't know if my tips will help you then. Looks like the XL is a dual coil and like I said I've read that those are different in tanks. A smaller hole may be better than a slot for those.

The CE2 says this "These cartomizers have no filler to burn and instead have a reservoir and wicking system. " So, I've never used a filler-less carto in a tank so I can't help there either.

 

[c.chalie]

Okay, I see. I don't know if my tips will help you then. Looks like the XL is a dual coil and like I said I've read that those are different in tanks. A smaller hole may be better than a slot for those.

The CE2 says this "These cartomizers have no filler to burn and instead have a reservoir and wicking system. " So, I've never used a filler-less carto in a tank so I can't help there either.

no i saw the same filler rolled up in both of them, the ce2 i have is not the one with 1/2 the outter casing removed they look the same, so do you know who can help me with the dual coil?

 

[my4jewels]

Dual coils in a tank seem to be loved or hated. Personally, I don't like them. I have heard that they can be finicky in a tank, and IMHO, they are not well suited to be in a tank. I have heard way too many stories about underwicking and overwicking. In my experience, once a carto overwicks, it's very hard to get a handle on it. As a result, I have decided to avoid the dual coils altogether. I use only single coil cartos in my tanks. I am not familiar with any type of ce2's, so I can't help you there.

That tank looks identical in every way to the Smoktech DCTank. I have a lot of them. My recommendation would be to get some resurrectors from CrystalClearVaping, or cut down your tank tube to 1" and use stainless Boge cartos. One small hole for the resurrectors, one or two small holes in the Boge cartos. I have cut down all of my tanks and use a Boge carto.

Like Spazmelda said, it's totally worth taking the time to get it right with tanks. Most of the folks I know love their tanks once they found out what worked for them. As for me, they have completely changed the way I vape. No more topping off cartos is a great and wonderful thing.

I wish you luck and don't give up the ship!

 

[my4jewels]

Also, you may want to ask more questions in this section: Atomizer, Cartomizer and Tank Discussion

 

[mynameisrob]

What is the PG/VG ratio of the juice your using?

 

[Spazmelda]

Yes, the PG/VG ratio might be something to look at for sure. If too little wicking is the problem, sometimes thinning your juice with diH20 or high proof alcohol can help.

To get some advice on dual coils try clicking on 'advanced search' at the top right hand corner of this page, and search for 'dual coil tank' titles only. You should get some hits.

Like Jewels said, I've read many posts about dual coils being finicky in tanks. I just decided to avoid that whole can of worms and I stick with boges. I make my own tanks from a 20 ml syringe, so cutting down a tank isn't an issue for me. I just cut my syringes to the proper length for whatever carto I'm using.

 

[c.chalie]

What is the PG/VG ratio of the juice your using?

i have no idea, nhaler does not say the mix they use

 

[c.chalie]

wow thank you all for the help, im surprized that there is still so meny pplout there that have no problem helping people, you all are the best

 

[c.chalie]

Dual coils in a tank seem to be loved or hated. Personally, I don't like them. I have heard that they can be finicky in a tank, and IMHO, they are not well suited to be in a tank. I have heard way too many stories about underwicking and overwicking. In my experience, once a carto overwicks, it's very hard to get a handle on it. As a result, I have decided to avoid the dual coils altogether. I use only single coil cartos in my tanks. I am not familiar with any type of ce2's, so I can't help you there.

That tank looks identical in every way to the Smoktech DCTank. I have a lot of them. My recommendation would be to get some resurrectors from CrystalClearVaping, or cut down your tank tube to 1" and use stainless Boge cartos. One small hole for the resurrectors, one or two small holes in the Boge cartos. I have cut down all of my tanks and use a Boge carto.

Like Spazmelda said, it's totally worth taking the time to get it right with tanks. Most of the folks I know love their tanks once they found out what worked for them. As for me, they have completely changed the way I vape. No more topping off cartos is a great and wonderful thing.

I wish you luck and don't give up the ship!

but the ressurector is an LR, i have a lavatube so no need for LR

 

[mynameisrob]

is the juice on the thicker side? or is it fairly thin?

You have to remember that getting a tank to work correctly isnt just about making the hole the correct size.
Personally I dont think the size of the hole is even the most important part. You have to remember to periodically take dry pulls, which will feed more juice to the carto. This is especially important when using thicker juices, but should also be done with thinner juices. Take 3-5 short hard dry pulls and that will feed more juice in to help keep the carto wet. If your hole/holes are the right size, you should see air bubbles come out of the punched hole when you take dry pulls. Try doing that and that should help keep the carto wet and avoid getting a burnt taste