True dripping tank idea....

[Nate Rager]

I'm new to vaping, but not new to coming up with ideas that I think will make something better. I have an idea for a tank that I think would be amazing. It is a dual coil atomizer deck with a tank below like a Genesis. But encorporates a plunger and a pick up tube to get the juice from the tank to the atomizer.

The picture below is a quick sketch of my idea. The top cap would have a large sight glass so that the dripping can be seen.

The mechanics behind it is simple. Works on pressure. The plunger forces air into the tank. The juice is forced up the pickup tube and falls to the atomizer.

Seems this would bring the convenience of a tank and the vapor quality of dripping together in an ultra portable no mess unit.

Been done before? Reinventing the wheel? A pretty good idea? What are your thoughts? I could make this happen relatively easily on a very small scale in my garage.

I can't seem to post the picture. Keep getting the error that the image is too large. Here is a link to the pic on my flickr account.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/11553994475_6bcf21aa36.jpg

 

[damthisisfun]

Make it - test it - if it is good - make another one - and send it to me - will test and if good - will not only thank you - will post great reviews on YT..........

 

[ZNinja]

We need something like this...

 

[Nate Rager]

I think I'm going to make a hybrid.....

 

[pmuniz10920]

That's a really great idea. But me being me I have to ask what are your ideas on air flow? 1 hole, 2 holes, adjustable air? I know it's just a prototype idea but the issue is likely to come up and needs to be planned for.

I'm willing to help test too..

 

[Pete54]

Been done. Google 3D Auto Refill Drip

 

[pmuniz10920]

Getting ideas in my head, what if the bottom portion looked like an IBT halfling and the top cap had threading...

Just throwing it out there...

 

[edyle]

Instead of plunging, how about SHAKE.

1: coil above liquid but not separated by a plate or anything.
2: Shake the tank to wet the coil if its not already wet
3: Instead of plunging, pressing a button opens a hole between the tank top and the mouthpiece; it is normally closed so the liquid does not leak out.
4: Vape
5: Release button to close.

 

[Nate Rager]

Instead of plunging, how about SHAKE.

1: coil above liquid but not separated by a plate or anything.
2: Shake the tank to wet the coil if its not already wet
3: Instead of plunging, pressing a button opens a hole between the tank top and the mouthpiece; it is normally closed so the liquid does not leak out.
4: Vape
5: Release button to close.

In theory that sounds decent but not perfect. Shaking to dispense the juice would probably result in a lot of juice ending up on the walls of the top cap, and would be tough to machine any consistency for the amount of liquid dispensed each shake.

I have another method in mind... I'll try to explain it here...

The positive post runs through the tank and into the deck like normal. Around the positive post is a threaded sleve that is insulated from the post. Around these threads sits a stainless steel washer with rubber around the edge to make a water tight seal. You turn a ring just below the deck to raise that washer up. That washer is essentially a floating bottom to the tank. When the washer moves up the capacity of the tank gets smaller, forcing the juice up into the delivery tube in the top cap.

As far as threads being used.. The top cap in my mind is a combo of o ring seal and threads. Push the cap down with the 2 air flow holes aligned with the wick, and then the 510 connection threads into the top holding the top cap on tight. Then any 510 drip tip will work.

As far as air flow I was thinking along the lines of the kraken. That thing has ingenious afc.

 

[edyle]

Quote Originally Posted by edyle View Post
Instead of plunging, how about SHAKE.

1: coil above liquid but not separated by a plate or anything.
2: Shake the tank to wet the coil if its not already wet
3: Instead of plunging, pressing a button opens a hole between the tank top and the mouthpiece; it is normally closed so the liquid does not leak out.
4: Vape
5: Release button to close.

In theory that sounds decent but not perfect. Shaking to dispense the juice would probably result in a lot of juice ending up on the walls of the top cap, and would be tough to machine any consistency for the amount of liquid dispensed each shake.

I have another method in mind... I'll try to explain it here...

The positive post runs through the tank and into the deck like normal. Around the positive post is a threaded sleve that is insulated from the post. Around these threads sits a stainless steel washer with rubber around the edge to make a water tight seal. You turn a ring just below the deck to raise that washer up. That washer is essentially a floating bottom to the tank. When the washer moves up the capacity of the tank gets smaller, forcing the juice up into the delivery tube in the top cap.

As far as threads being used.. The top cap in my mind is a combo of o ring seal and threads. Push the cap down with the 2 air flow holes aligned with the wick, and then the 510 connection threads into the top holding the top cap on tight. Then any 510 drip tip will work.

As far as air flow I was thinking along the lines of the kraken. That thing has ingenious afc.

There's nothing to dispense. You shake to wet the coil.
There is no separation between the liquid and the coil.

In your sketch you have the coil sepated from the eliquid.

In my proposal, there is no separation. Instead, you block the mouthpiece, and only open the mouthpiece when you need to.

 

[Nate Rager]

So you would have basically a coil on a post in the center of the tank. The tank is also the top cap in essence. Just a juice chamber. Interesting idea. I wonder how that would function from wicks that would be super saturated from the mod laying on its side or upside down even..

 

[Nate Rager]

That would be a lot more simple to machine... Then there is the issue of air flow.
With a shake n' vape (trademark!) there would be juice on the walls so air flow may be limited to through the 510 connection... Using stainless steel mesh may help to prevent over saturation.

 

[edyle]

So you would have basically a coil on a post in the center of the tank. The tank is also the top cap in essence. Just a juice chamber. Interesting idea. I wonder how that would function from wicks that would be super saturated from the mod laying on its side or upside down even..

Not sure what you mean by a top cap, but yes the coil up in the upper half of the chamber, and you basically half fill the chamber so that the coil is not flooded.

The difference from current top coil systems now is - why use a wick, just splash the liquid directly on the coil like the drippers do, but instead of 'dripping' you just shake it. In order to do the shake, and because you now have the coil exposed instead of inside a airflow post, you need a button to open and shut the airflow.

 

[edyle]

REO mods.

I think the REO is kinda like a auto dripper; but it shoots the stuff up from the bottom instead of trying to drip it over the top.