Trying to create "ultimate" tobacco vape with minimal coil gunking

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Thanks Kurt and Blueser for the feedbacks. Once I finish my testing with these FA flavors, most likely I'll venture into your suggestions too. I'd like give more steeping time to these FA tobaccos.

Both Cuban Supreme and Cigar Passion built more "body" over the day as they stayed in my tanks. I think they'll evolve over time with steeping -- hopefully for the better.
 

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I still have several FA tobacco mixes stored and time to time I try em and they just don't compare to inawera or hangsen, some of the FA fruits are good.

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Some of the Inawera flavors are almost identical in name to Flavor Art. Could they be an adaption perhaps?
 

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Chinook,

Try this on a 10ml sample:

FA Desert Ship 3.2% or 15 drops
FA Cocoa 1.7% or 8 drops

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Kurt, I was going over these posts... I haven't used drops before, but today or tomorrow, I'm going to calculate exactly how many mililiters I'm getting per drop here from my 10 ml bottles. I thought approximately one drop = 0.05 ml. That'll make 15 drops in 10 ml, like 7.5%. Am I off my assuming one drop = 0.05 ml?
 

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HS Indian has a nice smooth earthy taste, HS RY1 is very smooth and the normal Vanilla/Caramel characteristics of most RY's are barely present.

INW TDM S'Camel is one of my favorites, the description says sweet with a hint of ash but the sweetness is very, very subtle in a very good way, no artificial sickly sweet, no floral notes. I just started using the INW Classic Smooth leaf, I haven't tried it as a standalone yet (but soon)... have been mixing it with S'Camel & INW DNB...I love this combination...all of these I would say fall between a light/medium flavor. It's practically impossible to screw these flavors up, they will all mix and match with stellar results...the best results for my particular taste is to stay in the 2-3% range with INW and 5-7% with HS....

On occasion I'll mix a wee bit of INW chocolate cream or maybe INW/CAP coconut or INW/HS/FA vanilla with any of these tobaccos for a change of pace...this is about as exotic as I get...I don't do fruits/desserts/sweeties

P.S>...on coil gunking...with the tobacco's I've vaped upwards of 3 weeks on one cotton wick in my KF with no degradation in flavor/no gunking..the vanilla/coconut/chocolate are practically all I use outside tobacco...even with these brands I'll go a week or longer before I change wicks.
 
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Kurt, I was going over these posts... I haven't used drops before, but today or tomorrow, I'm going to calculate exactly how many mililiters I'm getting per drop here from my 10 ml bottles. I thought approximately one drop = 0.05 ml. That'll make 15 drops in 10 ml, like 7.5%. Am I off my assuming one drop = 0.05 ml?

I came out with 46 drops/ml on the FA on the bigger tip bottles but you may want to calculate yours, inawera bottles have a needle tip making the drops smaller like 60 drops/ml.

Here are the ml quantities: Desert Ship FA .32ml. Cocoa FA .17ml.

Are you using ejuicemeup calculator?

Kurt
 
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HS Indian has a nice smooth earthy taste, HS RY1 is very smooth and the normal Vanilla/Caramel characteristics of most RY's are barely present.

INW TDM S'Camel is one of my favorites, the description says sweet with a hint of ash but the sweetness is very, very subtle in a very good way, no artificial sickly sweet, no floral notes. I just started using the INW Classic Smooth leaf, I haven't tried it as a standalone yet (but soon)... have been mixing it with S'Camel & INW DNB...I love this combination...all of these I would say fall between a light/medium flavor. It's practically impossible to screw these flavors up, they will all mix and match with stellar results...the best results for my particular taste is to stay in the 2-3% range with INW and 5-7% with HS....

On occasion I'll mix a wee bit of INW chocolate cream or maybe INW/CAP coconut or INW/HS/FA vanilla with any of these tobaccos for a change of pace...this is about as exotic as I get...I don't do fruits/desserts/sweeties

P.S>...on coil gunking...with the tobacco's I've vaped upwards of 3 weeks on one cotton wick in my KF with no degradation in flavor/no gunking..the vanilla/coconut/chocolate are practically all I use outside tobacco...even with these brands I'll go a week or longer before I change wicks.

Between the HS Indian, HS RY1, INW TDM S'Camel and INW Classic Smooth leaf, is HS Indian the most robust one? it sounds like most of these are light to medium. I tend to like medium to robust tobaccos (but without the campfire/bacon smokiness.). Even Ahlusion's Blue Grass Burley was too much for me. The dark Burley almost had campfire smokimess even though it wasn't cured that way (I think). My last smoke was Organic American Spirit. That was a great tobacco. I did some intense DIY NET extracts out of it, but gunked my coils even after a lot of filtering.

By the way, do any of these have a decent amount of caramel? I'm finding out that I'm not enjoying caramel as much.

Wow on your mileage regarding coils/wicks! That's fantastic! I'm still "low tech" -- Kanger T2 tanks. I'll be glad if I can vape 4-5 ml without flavor change.
 

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I came out with 46 drops/ml on the FA on the bigger tip bottles but you may want to calculate yours, inawera bottles have a needle tip making the drops smaller like 60 drops/ml.

Here are the ml quantities: Desert Ship FA .32ml. Cocoa FA .17ml.

Are you using ejuicemeup calculator?

Kurt

Kurt, thank you very much.

I'm using my own Excel spreadsheet. I made myself one where I log my DIY juices and also has a tab dedicated to juice calculations.
 

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FA cocao is a little weak at 1.5% and not too sweet. I will have to raise it to 2.5 - 3 %.

Exchaner, FA cocoa never got sweet for me even at 5%. It's fairly dry. Think of powdered very dark chocolate but no sugar in it. 3% was low for me, but 5% felt too high. 4% could be the sweet spot for me.

I think FA cocoa has a very realistic dark unsweetened chocolate taste to it. But I think my brain wanted a tad bit of sweetness to make sense of it...
 

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Chinook, someone suggested mixing Cocoa with some other chocolate for a sweeter more realistic taste. I think it was in that thread called Pure Vapes - a post by HeadinClouds. I do like Cocoa by itself though. You may not even need to make it sweeter If mixed with a tobacco on the sweeter side.
 
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Thanks Exchaner. I meant it for vaping cocoa on its own then some sweetness will be needed. I'm also planning to mix it with tobacco.

I wish we could buy flavors like this, so we can do our own blending. Does anyone know if there are any realistic stand alone tobacco flavors (Virginia,. Perique, Turkish , Burley etc..) besides some of the single leaf NETs?

Search - PipesandCigars.com
 

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I came out with 46 drops/ml on the FA on the bigger tip bottles but you may want to calculate yours, inawera bottles have a needle tip making the drops smaller like 60 drops/ml.

Here are the ml quantities: Desert Ship FA .32ml. Cocoa FA .17ml.

Are you using ejuicemeup calculator?

Kurt

I just checked this with water. From my 10ml bottle I'm getting 0.026 mL / drop. That's 38 drops per ml. I'll check tomorrow with PG instead of water.
 

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Thanks Exchaner. I meant it for vaping cocoa on its own then some sweetness will be needed. I'm also planning to mix it with tobacco.

I wish we could buy flavors like this, so we can do our own blending. Does anyone know if there are any realistic stand alone tobacco flavors (Virginia,. Perique, Turkish , Burley etc..) besides some of the single leaf NETs?

Search - PipesandCigars.com
 
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