Trying to make a lemon, and made a lemon :)

[blaufisch]

Finding it hard to find some advice on making a decent plain refreshing lemon flavour so I was hoping some of the juice gurus can chuck in their 2cents. Yes I've read hoosier's blog posts

So here's the deal, I have some TPA Lemon, and I mixed at 15% and made something that tastes rather... gastric. I'm trying to balance it out with menthol, ethyl maltol and some stevia and wondering if anyone has used TPA/TFA Lemon and what percentage they have mixed it at, also what additives did they find helpful?

thanks muchly

 

[w00st3r]

Are you giving it a chance to settle down (steep) in a few days time the flavor can change drastically. I ha ent expiramented with lemon yet, ill have to look into that.

sent from my s3 like a derp.

 

[blaufisch]

Are you giving it a chance to settle down (steep) in a few days time the flavor can change drastically. I ha ent expiramented with lemon yet, ill have to look into that.

sent from my s3 like a derp.

I made it last night it has settled down a bit, not so yak tasting, and I bet a few more days will smooth it a bit.

I also ask because regardless it will need some em and/or sweetener plus a menthol/koolada to make a nice balanced flavour and looking for others' proven results in balancing the flavour

 

[BakuPeg]

Remix. Start at 5%, try it. Then give it a week steep. Add some EM and a couple drops of real lemon juice.

Also a complementary flavor wouldn't hurt. For instance, adding 1 - 2% lime / orange / pomeagranet or watermelon will help to round it out a little.

If it doesn't work, add more TPA lemon and repeat

 

[blaufisch]

Remix. Start at 5%, try it. Then give it a week steep. Add some EM and a couple drops of real lemon juice.

Also a complementary flavor wouldn't hurt. For instance, adding 1 - 2% lime / orange / pomeagranet or watermelon will help to round it out a little.

If it doesn't work, add more TPA lemon and repeat

Interesting!! to the LAB! *whoosh*

 

[Hoosier]

I like BakuPeg's approach, but I would do it slightly differently.

Start at 5%. Shake and taste. If it isn't right, set it aside for a week and then try it.
Slowly work it up this way until it gets close.
After it is close then start adding things like lime, orange, watermelon, blueberry, raspberry, EM or lemon juice. If adding a bit of raspberry nails it, set it aside for another week and try it again. If it is still great then mix up a big bottle and organize your notes as you happily vape away.

Kinda' the same as Baku's, but different.

 

[BakuPeg]

^^ I defer to the mixing master up there LOL.. ^^

Raspberry lemonade with extra koolata... MMMMmmmmMMM *WHOOSH!*

 

[Hoosier]

Oh don't do that BakuPeg, your method has merit. I'm stodgy with recipe development. (That means I'm slow)

I think the catch-phrase "*WHOOSH*" should be one to catch on. No explanation, just *WHOOSH* and everyone knows you've opened the lab and started mixing.

 

[blaufisch]

I like BakuPeg's approach, but I would do it slightly differently.

Start at 5%. Shake and taste. If it isn't right, set it aside for a week and then try it.
Slowly work it up this way until it gets close.
After it is close then start adding things like lime, orange, watermelon, blueberry, raspberry, EM or lemon juice. If adding a bit of raspberry nails it, set it aside for another week and try it again. If it is still great then mix up a big bottle and organize your notes as you happily vape away.

Kinda' the same as Baku's, but different.

OK! whipped up a 5% batch, much more tolerable. I'll leave this and the original for a week and report back

thanks everyone!

 

[blaufisch]

Oh don't do that BakuPeg, your method has merit. I'm stodgy with recipe development. (That means I'm slow)

I think the catch-phrase "*WHOOSH*" should be one to catch on. No explanation, just *WHOOSH* and everyone knows you've opened the lab and started mixing.

this is great, learning the process. patience and a light hand... i can see the wisdom

 

[glassmanoak]

maybe add a drop of TFA Smooth or FA Vape Wizard... just saying. Those can take an edge off.

 

[blaufisch]

maybe add a drop of TFA Smooth or FA Vape Wizard... just saying. Those can take an edge off.

Interesting, i have neither of those, i'll look into acquiring.

 

[Caridwen]

I start at about 5% too - add some Vape Wizard and a couple drops of Koolada.

I don't add any sweetner.

 

[blaufisch]

Well a week as passed, and 15% is definitely too strong, I will dilute it. 5% seems a bit weak, so I made a 10% and its *almost* there. Maybe 8% or suchlike. It seems to be, rather than a lemon flavour one would associate with candy, a sour, acidic flavour. This is not a bad thing, with some em and koolada it makes an approximation of lemon.

I may try an experiment as suggested above and add a drop of real lemon juice and see what happens. I use an RBA when at home, so i'm not concerned with killing an atomizer or tank.

 

[CATastrophe]

I don't have my recipe book in front of me, but I love a lemon and coconut mix. Sometimes I add a bit of mint. Very refreshing. I believe I use maybe 1% more of lemon than coconut. It's TFA lemon and LA coconut, but I'm sure TFA coconut would be fine. I know each flavor is less than 10%.

 

[Cookster]

I actually like to mix the lemon with cheesecake, smooths it out, and gives it a creaminess...

 

[buffaloguy]

You may find adding real lemon juice to tpa lemon will actually mute the lemon flavor after a week. I compared two side by side awhile back and thats what happend for me.

I decided that using tpa lemon along with either tpa lime, or tpa mountain dew, and DEFINITELY some koolada at about 3-4% did the trick to make more of a lemonade flavored juice.