Read this! Tuesday: Halo start first lawsuit against FDA, Debate in the UK House of Lords

[Oliver]

And news that Nicopure Brands (Halo) are the first out of the door with a lawsuit against the FDA: Nicopure Labs Challenges the FDA’s Deeming Rule - Nicopure Labs LLC.

In its court filing Nicopure Labs, who is not affiliated with any tobacco company, contends the FDA’s rulemaking process violated the Administrative Procedure Act, and that the deeming rule violates the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

And a great debate on vaping products in the UK House of Lords: Parliamentlive.tv

And this would be worth a few vapers getting stuck into: The F.D.A. Rules Ignore Harm Reduction Benefits for Adult Smokers - NYTimes.com

 

[Steven Pye]

awesome---- let the rebellion begin!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Marina2]

That didn't take long.

 

[Bob Chill]

I'm sure the FDA expected lawsuits and push back from the industry so they are likely prepared for it. I doubt they will be able to simply dismiss everything like they did during the comment period. It's hard to say how much ground the industry has to stand on though. The courts will decide that of course.

 

[mudmanc4]

That didn't take long.

Almost as if it was setup prior to the FDA letting us all know how much they depend on big tobacco, in each of their personal financial lives, hmph

 

[Katmar]

I'm sure the FDA expected lawsuits and push back from the industry so they are likely prepared for it. I doubt they will be able to simply dismiss everything like they did during the comment period. It's hard to say how much ground the industry has to stand on though. The courts will decide that of course.

They may think they are prepared, but, based on the regs themselves, they are woefully stupid on the science.

 

[Steamix]

"This is absolutely bonkers"

(Quote from the debate in the house of Lords)

Mind you, they're blasting the TPD of the EU, which is, compared to what the FDA has in mind, fairly lenient...

 

[crxess]

And a great debate on vaping products in the UK House of Lords: Parliamentlive.tv

......and assuming we are still in the EU

 

[DaveOno]

as I happily vape on some Halo Malibu...

Godspeed, Halo Nicopure!!! As I recall, they have an excellent legal team from past events.

 

[YoursTruli]

Hopefully the community as a whole will support Halo

 

[Katdarling]

Kudos to Halo! This took some courage!

SJ, thank you for the link to the UK House of Lords Parliament debate. VERY interesting!

 

[Carnage9270]

I'm not a fan of them doing this. Not that I disagree with what they are trying to do, I just think we'd be better served by a larger group with deeper pockets proceeding with the lawsuit. Halo can't afford what the newly formed group can. Just don't have deep enough pockets. We don't want legal precedence set because a lawsuit didn't have funding to get truly high powered attorneys and lawyers to fight it correctly. We'll see how it pans out I guess.

 

[Bob Chill]

They may think they are prepared, but, based on the regs themselves, they are woefully stupid on the science.

Woefully stupid from a casual observer perspective for sure. But I don't think they were being stupid at all. They surgically removed any and all reference to the positive science and used a bullhorn to deliver the negative science. All by careful design to push a set of draconian regulations at all costs.

At this point the only 2 ways it can unravel is the proposed amendments or some decisive favorable court victories.

Eventually the truth will be undeniable and the market would likely be uncommonly subject to re-regulation over time. Which still sucks pretty bad if it goes down like that.

 

[28if]

Warms my heart. Just like subohming Tribeca does.

 

[crxess]

I listened to the FDA
I Listened to the House of Lords

I am Embarrassed at the 180 degree opposing View the FDA has to Public health.

WHY oh Why did I not listen to my Travel Agent

 

[mattymatt82]

God Bless Halo, they have my support! I do not vape their products, but may place an order to show support.

 

[liquid_strat]

Not sure how many watched the House of Lords debate. Just to state it here: Those debating in the House of Lords were completely in favor of Vapor products in the UK as a nicotine alternative to UK smokers where each speaker covered a wide swath of pro- vapor product information. The speakers all stated straight forward that the EU directive will not be allowed to discourage use of vapor products by UK smokers. And the UK will promote vapor products as a safer alternative to smoking. Finally stating that the UK will use the most light handed approach to implementing the TPD.

 

[AngiBe]

LOVE HALO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And my banner has always stated so

 

[Paul lamb]

 

[defdock]

Really got into vaping due to halo, and now their getting "into the skin" of FDA to fight "for the right"

Hellz yez!