Two Companies very similar name, different locations

[WolfeReign]

canvape is so cheap I don't even think it's fair to compare other vendors to them...

Well you get what you pay for, then re-order to replace, then re-order to replace then..... (but this is as far as i air my displeasure with canvape and is part of a much larger picture, not sure who wants to know it all yet )

View attachment 95552 As for actual product and being less expensive as you can see here sure they sell the stardust for $4.95. For the Version 1 series i guess it is ok, but for $5 i can get the Version 2, and soon $5.67 will get me the Version 3.

But again you get hit with $15 service charge for express post, from around Toronto to Winnipeg that takes 4 days to receive

Eco Vaper and flavor crafters are also located around the same general area charges $9.99 for Express post with a most excellent next day delivery

Happy Vaper is $12 for day and a half delivery

Vapor geeks will charge $11 (and that is from BC) giving two day delivery.

I guess i am just odd then, as i look at the overall price including shipping, and what the turn around time is to have the product in my greedy little hands plus customer service plus drama level for me to say if a company is less expensive or not

But as always it comes down to matter of opinion....and just like the e-juice, so too suppliers are subjective

 

[albertbert]

Version 1 huh? lol...

You can actually get cheaper shipping from canvape, you just need to ask them for a quote. You can even get $2 regular envelope shipping on little things if you want.

 

[WolfeReign]

Version 1: Had a issue with cracking when you put them on your ego, or constantly refilled them

Version 2: Seen the introduction of the LR, and what looks like a needle point inside them. Another bonus is that they are a bit more sturdy

Version 3: I got a sneak peak, i am so not saying, i gave my word i would not say

Plus i have had a bit of information float my way, i am waiting to see if i can do a quote, but this blows me away that right off the hop i was right, which i a huge boast to my male ego as it means i know what i am talking about

 

[Mindfield]

I've seen the v3, already have some earmarked for review when they arrive, but I don't know that the changes are going to make any difference in the performance. We'll see.

 

[WolfeReign]

I've seen the v3, already have some earmarked for review when they arrive, but I don't know that the changes are going to make any difference in the performance. We'll see.

and ding dang do!!! i thought i was special to see one...i thought it was for my eyes only....mine mine all mine (insert mad scientist laugh here) LOL

 

[Mindfield]

and ding dang do!!! i thought i was special to see one...i thought it was for my eyes only....mine mine all mine (insert mad scientist laugh here) LOL

lol. They're on Vision's site already, so the cat's out of the bag.

 

[WolfeReign]

That's it good sir! the gloves come off now I am so sending my tiny over lord......i mean the devil incarnate......i mean my holy terror rescue kitten...HA HA and en guard!

All kidding aside, if they keep the needle like point inside (which i am not sure why it is there, maybe to help when filling it?), and the longer wicks should allow a power flavor punch each vape you take? If they keep the overall size the same, then should not be a issue with the e-juice creeping up the wick either?

But on the other side of the coin, could be harder to clean. considering the wicks?

Either way i am praying to the mighty Vision people that it is not going to be a do-it-yourself-take-it-apart-and-adust-the-wick's-how-you-want. I am NOT mechanically inclined, that is why i went into the software business......

Hey there is a idea.....some way to have a programmable ego that involves your computer....set voltage, light, cut off ect....think i am on to someone....if only i can find someone that knows their stuff inside out......Oh hey Mindfield! you busy? got a idea for you

 

[shack22]

It is weird, but Andrew probably had a reason for it. What about Canvape.com & Canadavapes.com? These are pretty close, too. I like originality - Jugheads stands out for me.

I like originality also and Vapor Geek is a very good name--catchy and easy to remember. I feel bad for Lae--they have excellent cust service,are always adding new stuff and have good prices. I'll give the new VaperGeek guy a bit of the benefit of the doubt--but--it just seems that even a tiny bit of market research would have discovered Vapor Geek's existence. Canvape.com & Canadavapes.com are close but it's more like if one was Canvape.com and the other Cannvape.com.

 

[WolfeReign]

I like originality also and Vapor Geek is a very good name--catchy and easy to remember. I feel bad for Lae--they have excellent cust service,are always adding new stuff and have good prices. I'll give the new VaperGeek guy a bit of the benefit of the doubt--but--it just seems that even a tiny bit of market research would have discovered Vapor Geek's existence. Canvape.com & Canadavapes.com are close but it's more like if one was Canvape.com and the other Cannvape.com.

i took a peek in on vaper and there is indeed charges going on, so i guess i could see both sides of the coin.

I feel for Lae as well, and she is very calm about it all....and there is now a unofficial fan page for vap0r geek (or VG is better to say )

 

[Mindfield]

That's it good sir! the gloves come off now I am so sending my tiny over lord......i mean the devil incarnate......i mean my holy terror rescue kitten...HA HA and en guard!

My wife and I looked after a cat one day for a friend who was absolutely stark raving hatstand. Wouldn't let anyone get near it, growled like Satan incarnate, and slashed my wife's hand but good when she tried to get it out from under the dresser. We had to call her friend to come take the furry ball of evil back. So we know all about holy terrors. Bring it.

All kidding aside, if they keep the needle like point inside (which i am not sure why it is there, maybe to help when filling it?),

Yup. Keeps juice out of the air tube and helps guide it into the tank.

and the longer wicks should allow a power flavor punch each vape you take? If they keep the overall size the same, then should not be a issue with the e-juice creeping up the wick either?

Thing is, wick length is only relevant up to a point. And by a point, I mean about half an inch, tops. Any more than that and the juice below that point will never make it to the coil, because it's too heavy for capillary action to overcome the gravity pulling it down once the juice level drops below a certain point.

Take a strip of paper towel and dip it in a small container of water. At first the water will wick up the towel pretty quickly. But then it starts to slow down, and eventually it'll almost stop. That's because liquid likes to stick together, and as the liquid wicks upward, it's pulling all of the liquid below with it, which just keeps getting heavier the more it wicks.

Now, on the other hand, from looking at the picture of the v3s on Vision's site, it looks like they might be going with multiple thin wicks rather than one fat one. That's actually a pretty good idea; thinner wicks mean less juice per wick (but at a good amount across all wicks) but also not as much weight from the juice which means individual wicks will be able to wick juice up faster, and that might help deliver it to the coil better. But again, we'll see how it works in practice.

But on the other side of the coin, could be harder to clean. considering the wicks?

Nah, no worse than any other clearo. The main question is if they've made it easier to take apart this time around. The v1s were pretty easy, but the v2s were bloody difficult to get the metal ring off. (You don't have to take it apart to clean, just to rebuild, which is what I'm interested in. )

Hey there is a idea.....some way to have a programmable ego that involves your computer....set voltage, light, cut off ect....think i am on to someone....if only i can find someone that knows their stuff inside out......Oh hey Mindfield! you busy? got a idea for you

Would you believe something like that has already been done? Problem is the software to program it was apparently pretty crap and the device itself was no great shakes -- and the things you could program it for weren't entirely practical anyway. Much better to have everything on the device. Can't remember what it was called.

 

[WolfeReign]

My wife and I looked after a cat one day for a friend who was absolutely stark raving hatstand. Wouldn't let anyone get near it, growled like Satan incarnate, and slashed my wife's hand but good when she tried to get it out from under the dresser. We had to call her friend to come take the furry ball of evil back. So we know all about holy terrors. Bring it.

You asked for it now! View attachment 95712 There! i called in the Penguin Army (insert evil mad scientist laugh here)

Would you believe something like that has already been done? Problem is the software to program it was apparently pretty crap and the device itself was no great shakes -- and the things you could program it for weren't entirely practical anyway. Much better to have everything on the device. Can't remember what it was called

go me! i just re-invented the proverbial wheel

 

[Mindfield]

You asked for it now! View attachment 95712 There! i called in the Penguin Army (insert evil mad scientist laugh here)

I have nothing to compete with penguins. They projectile poop.

go me! i just re-invented the proverbial wheel

Don't worry, that seems to be what most Chinese E-cig companies have been doing for ages now.

 

[WolfeReign]

Don't worry, that seems to be what most Chinese E-cig companies have been doing for ages now.

BOL ok, got me there, now excuse me, i am just running through from another post. I just stole ChellyNelly's jam sandwich and am going to hide as i want to eat it and then hit the pillow sshhhhhhh i was never here

 

[WolfeReign]

Your Safe Mindfield from the Penguin Army LOL, they accidentally plugging in my blackberry wall charger then plugged my pass through in for charging, and i will be stomped, the higher (still 5A, but is 750mah) and i can now use it as it was meant to be with pass through functionality....i need to give them some rum ice cream now i've been using 5V 500mah wall chargers for it

(yeah i know that probably makes no sense, but i was just woke up by noising rooming house neighbors, and seeing as it is rather inappropriate to go for the jugular i thought i would come here to blow off some steam)

 

[Mindfield]

Your Safe Mindfield from the Penguin Army LOL, they accidentally plugging in my blackberry wall charger then plugged my pass through in for charging, and i will be stomped, the higher (still 5A, but is 750mah) and i can now use it as it was meant to be with pass through functionality....i need to give them some rum ice cream now i've been using 5V 500mah wall chargers for it

(yeah i know that probably makes no sense, but i was just woke up by noising rooming house neighbors, and seeing as it is rather inappropriate to go for the jugular i thought i would come here to blow off some steam)

Ah, noisy neighbours. I live in an apartment building, and normally the walls between apartments and in the floors/ceilings are quite thick. But bugger me if the people upstairs don't still manage to sound like elephants mud wrestling. At 2-farking-AM. Every. ........ Night.

As for the charger, be very careful with that. If your battery is only meant to take a regular 4.2V current you could very easily burn that thing out.

 

[WolfeReign]

Oh, i know about the dangers about burning it out, but the weird thing is when i charge it via 5A 5V charger, i cannot use it as a usb device....it actually puts the charging on hold and i use up whatever charge it got to that point. I know i could plug it into the computer, but i am paranoid now of burning up the mother board Anyway and add to confusion i thought seeing as i can vape and charge on 750A i should be safe?

I originally got it from canvape months back, and though Tom swore up, down and sideways it was not unregulated, when it is fully charged i get 4.7V and then as the battery charge drops i get i think 3.6 or 3.4 (as per the volt meter i got)

Now boredom is awesome as i am putting the finishing touches on a video where i use a ego-t for dripping and works flawlessly -- yes i know the ego-t can be buggered that way, but mine was already that way, so why not use it for something eh? I will make a post here when it is up

 

[Mindfield]

Oh, i know about the dangers about burning it out, but the weird thing is when i charge it via 5A 5V charger, i cannot use it as a usb device....it actually puts the charging on hold and i use up whatever charge it got to that point. I know i could plug it into the computer, but i am paranoid now of burning up the mother board Anyway and add to confusion i thought seeing as i can vape and charge on 750A i should be safe?

I originally got it from canvape months back, and though Tom swore up, down and sideways it was not unregulated, when it is fully charged i get 4.7V and then as the battery charge drops i get i think 3.6 or 3.4 (as per the volt meter i got)

4.7v sounds wrong unless it's a 5V battery. Should come off the charger at 4.2V (which is what it should be for an unregulated eGo) and come out at 3.6-3.9V under load, depending on the load. The battery should be able to handle a 750mA current when charging, though the safe limit would be 500mA.

Now boredom is awesome as i am putting the finishing touches on a video where i use a ego-t for dripping and works flawlessly -- yes i know the ego-t can be buggered that way, but mine was already that way, so why not use it for something eh? I will make a post here when it is up

The eGo shouldn't have a problem with dripping unless it's an automatic. If it's a manual, drip your head off; you won't fry it unless it leaks so much it runs down the side and into the button. But that's what drip shields are for. If it's a manual, you definitely need to carefully monitor the amount of juice you drip. One drop too much in through that air hole and it could fry. I very nearly did that to my SD Keyring tonight when a Phoenix clearo that I thought wouldn't leak did. Fortunately I caught it before it fried.

 

[therealcmac]

when a Phoenix clearo that I thought wouldn't leak did. Fortunately I caught it before it fried.

huh, so you have tried the Phoenix eh??? You get all the cool toys...besides the leaking how was it? Or do i have to wait for the review? Did you ever get around to vaping that KLP? I remember you mentioned it seemed a bit strong....

 

[Mindfield]

huh, so you have tried the Phoenix eh??? You get all the cool toys...besides the leaking how was it? Or do i have to wait for the review? Did you ever get around to vaping that KLP? I remember you mentioned it seemed a bit strong....

Yeah, I vaped it dry. Back to making my own, which is fine by me.

The Phoenixes (top and bottom coil) are actually surprisingly good straight out of the box. They hit hard, produce well, and taste pretty good too. The leaking only seems to occur if you let them sit more than just overnight -- or with a day or two's usage. Particularly the bottom coil, as it seems like it accumulates around the coil area in the bottom. But it's a far cry from the earlier Fluxomizers, which worked quite well, but only after modding. These don't seem to need modding. The bottom coil Phoenix does need to be filled and primed a certain way though, which I cover in my review. (Already filmed, just needs to be edited and posted.) If you don't it'll give you nasty dry hits. Once it's properly filled and primed though it's quite excellent.

Neither handles higher voltage very well though, at least not until you've broken them in, and even then it's limited. Still, at around 4.2V they vape very nicely.

 

[therealcmac]

These don't seem to need modding.

But you are going to do it anyways right?