UK vendor with unflavoured PG/VG nicotine base in a Glass bottle?

[DsyF]

Hi,
I'd like to get into DIY-ing liquid.
I'd really like to avoid plastic bottles, as i really don't trust plastic.
Is there a vendor who sells pharmaceutical grade PG + VG unflavored liquid in glass bottles?
thanks!

 

[Shirtbloke]

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[Joergl100]

Yes...: 7.2% Nicotine (VG Base)

But, HDPE is enough.

 

[DsyF]

Wow, that's perfect! thankyou.
They sell 7.2% VG, or 7.2% PG
I'm aiming to get a 50VG/50PG solution at the end of the process.

I'm not sure how to do the maths on this.
Their base mix is a combination of VG and PG (85/15, 70/30, 60/40)

I need to dilute it about 4x.. but i'm not sure how to achieve this and land at 50VG/50PG? I think i'll create a separate thread on this.
cheers for the link : )

 

[mhertz]

In addition to darkstar, then everythingliquid also has 1L(4x250ml) in glass. Darkstar is unknown US sourced and everythingliquid is indian/swiss nicselect from alchem.

For mixing down to your final ratio, then use a mixing app, like e.g. hotrods calc here: Juice Calculator
Or ejuicemeup here: eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

Or an online calc like ELR's here: https://goo.gl/lHQZ3R

Also, there's alot to learn by doing some research on it yourself

 

[DsyF]

hi mhertz,
Would you recommend everythingeliquid over Darkstar?

I've had a look at both and i'm leaning towards everythingeliquid for my nicotine solution. They do seem more transparent in where they source their nicotine.

I'm unsure on which out of the two to choose for my PG and VG bases.
everythingeliquid sells the base (without nicotine) in plastic bottles.
Although they do state that they are non-irradiated + the VG isn't derived from GMO vegetables - which is a plus.
Darkstar sell their base in a glass bottle - but there isn't much information about the product. Definatley no mention about whether it's irradiated or derived from GMO..

I just worry that a plastic bottle may leech chemicals into the VG or PG base.. I suppose there's less of a risk as it's 100% VG or PG with no nicotine or flavourings; which i've read have can melt plastic tanks e.t.c..

 

[mhertz]

Sorry, I've never tried darkstar(tried to, but they won't sell out of UK to other EU states), but know many like them and they are very popular in the UK. Nicselect from e.g. everythingliquid is good nic for a good price, so sorry can't really answer which is best.

For storing nic up to 1 -2 years, I would not personally worry about plastic, but also you could buy empty glass-bottles and rebottle yourself and store in freezer for long-term storage, many do around here.

Most VG sold in EU nowadays is from rapeseed, as they have an abundance of it locally, and EU rapeseed isn't GMO, only US rapeseed is GMO at times, but of course I cannot make a guaranty on what they use.

Personally, I and many others in EU, buy VG/PG in bulk from lubrisolve(from UK), in 5L(or bigger) containers, which I know is non-GMO EU rapeseed derived of good quality(high purity and low water). Lately the prices have gone down though from Darkstar and everythingliquid, so maybe there's not so much to save anymore as before, I dunno, but I wouldn't be surprised if both use lubrisolve VG/PG anyways. I kinda think of lubrisolve as the Essential-depot of the states, which a bunch of ECF'ers here uses Though not as cheap though, but cheapest around in EU. Lubrisolve have COAs(test-reports) and the VG is 99.8% min and USP/PH.Eur.

 

[DsyF]

Thanks a lot mate,
I really appreciate all the information.
I think i'm just about ready to start DIY-ing - looking forward to saving some £££s and playing around with flavourings.
I'm going to go with Everythingeliquid and Lubrisolve.
all the best,
D