My son who is 16 almost 17 who has been smoking and using chew for a while now wants to start vaping. I am a vaper but I feel i should buy him some stuff to get him started as I would prefer it to smoking. He has tried mine and says its pretty cool. What would you guys do if you were confronted with this situation. Thanks in advance guys!
Underage Son Wants To Start Vaping
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I would make a decision as the parent of a minor and not ask other people to make it for me or persuade me one way or the other. 
Well i was more or less looking for opinions. I was already planning on gettign him into vaping. But yes i understand your point
um...underage...can't advice...but seeing you mention that for a while has already been using tobacco products seems that you've been ok with it so seems you've already made your decision...
When I was 18 my mother bought me cigarettes along with the grocery shopping. She should of not done that. I smoked for 30 years till now. Misery. Pain. Anxiety.
How about a good strong NO! If he needs it latter on in life maybe?
How about a good strong NO! If he needs it latter on in life maybe?
I would make a decision as the parent of a minor and not ask other people to make it for me or persuade me one way or the other.
That isn't the question the OP asked at all. There is nothing wrong with trying to get a concensus on something that is obviously a bit of a puzzler.
That said...I dunno. That's a very tricky situation. Have you spoken to your doctor about it?
Personally, I would say yes... but get him to agree to use at as a tool to quit, not as a replacement. Get him to agree to a nicotine level stepping down schedule.
I doubt just saying NO to everything is going to work if it hasn't worked so far. I'm sure you've tried to tell him to stop smoking.
I doubt just saying NO to everything is going to work if it hasn't worked so far. I'm sure you've tried to tell him to stop smoking.
it may not be the question the op asked...the problem is they stated their underage son....so...legallyI would make a decision as the parent of a minor and not ask other people to make it for me or persuade me one way or the other.
That isn't the question the OP asked at all. There is nothing wrong with trying to get a concensus on something that is obviously a bit of a puzzler.
That said...I dunno. That's a very tricky situation. Have you spoken to your doctor about it?
we can not advise and I'm sure it goes against TOS/AUP of the forums....
I would make a decision as the parent of a minor and not ask other people to make it for me or persuade me one way or the other.
I'm going to have to go with the above... Legal issues should not be brought to bear on a public forum. it's like asking if it's ok to take your 16 yo to your favorite adult-only place.
you are a parent of an underage person and if anyone makes a decision for you, then they can be held legally responsible for either telling you to break the law or to not break the law...
Wish life were different, but there ya go.
you are right, he is a minor so don't get him to vape, let him smoke instead [sarcasm]
Buy him whatever he needs to get off smoking.
Work with him as much as possible in this personalized home recovery program that the 2 of us would be setting up.
That is what I would do.
Im not going to be politically correct here. Lets step into the real world for a sec. He smokes now. Lets say it again.... He smokes now.
Why did we all quit smoking and start vaping ? To quit smoking for all the obvious reasons. If he can find his way to buy cigs, he can find his way to buy ecigs. I wouldnt buy them for him, but I also woulnt worry if I laid out some of my extra stuff on the kitchen table and made it clear that I didnt really use this set up and juice anymore.... and ask him to dispose of it.
I was a smoker for 38 years.... I can never forget that.
Why did we all quit smoking and start vaping ? To quit smoking for all the obvious reasons. If he can find his way to buy cigs, he can find his way to buy ecigs. I wouldnt buy them for him, but I also woulnt worry if I laid out some of my extra stuff on the kitchen table and made it clear that I didnt really use this set up and juice anymore.... and ask him to dispose of it.
I was a smoker for 38 years.... I can never forget that.
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Logically I say yes vaping is better than smoking. Morally I say be a parent and protect your son. Possibly using vaping to get off of tobacco all together a short decline to 0 nic and then set boundary its never to late to do the right thing. Today right this second is a perfect time to start!
I'm not even going to address the fact that you have, apparently, allowed him to be an underage smoker already ...
But, rather than considering how you can enable him to continue his nicotine addiction ...perhaps you, as his legal guardian and presumably a responsible parent, should be considering how to enable him to quit altogether? It's never going to get any easier for him than it is now.
I think that it is safe to assume that most of us are vaping to get off of cigarettes ...but it is also safe to assume that many of us would simply rather not be vaping at all and get off the nicotine as well. I mean, it's an interesting hobby, and I know a lot do zero-nic vaping, but if I felt like I had any real choice, I'd walk away from vaping (and nicotine) altogether in a heartbeat.
Children make bad decisions in their life because they have no concept of consequences. It is physically impossible for them to "see around corners" because that part of their brain has not developed yet (and doesn't until the early 20's). As a parent, you do not have that excuse. Be a better parent. He's your child, not your 'buddy'.
But, rather than considering how you can enable him to continue his nicotine addiction ...perhaps you, as his legal guardian and presumably a responsible parent, should be considering how to enable him to quit altogether? It's never going to get any easier for him than it is now.
I think that it is safe to assume that most of us are vaping to get off of cigarettes ...but it is also safe to assume that many of us would simply rather not be vaping at all and get off the nicotine as well. I mean, it's an interesting hobby, and I know a lot do zero-nic vaping, but if I felt like I had any real choice, I'd walk away from vaping (and nicotine) altogether in a heartbeat.
Children make bad decisions in their life because they have no concept of consequences. It is physically impossible for them to "see around corners" because that part of their brain has not developed yet (and doesn't until the early 20's). As a parent, you do not have that excuse. Be a better parent. He's your child, not your 'buddy'.
This seems like a topic we can't really discuss if we promote or condone it.
*ahem*5th amendment*ahem*
*ahem*5th amendment*ahem*
Don't take me wrong, I do not know neither one of you (father and son), but if I were a parent I would never, ever, allow a son of mine to smoke, specially if he was underage. But, ignoring that part, I would do my best to keep him away from cigarettes. I wouldn't buy him an e-cig, we all know how yummi and addictive it is. At least, I always have mine near me.
What I would do is, take him out of cigarettes and give him an old setup of yours. If you have some old ego batteries put a clearomizer or something similar and toss the worst flavor you have! It will be similar to "shock" therapy. He will have the nicotine "fix" and he won't enjoy it at all. At that point you will have to be strict, you can't allow him to have any analogs otherwise he will just stick with those. I would also say, avoid vaping in front of him. There's no need to make him "suffer" making him vape terrible flavors and see you vaping on the good ones.
Remember, you are that father, you are the man. Be strict and make the rules. If you see him or hear stories about him smoking take is computer for a week, that will show him. He his too young to have his life destroyed by cigarettes.
What I would do is, take him out of cigarettes and give him an old setup of yours. If you have some old ego batteries put a clearomizer or something similar and toss the worst flavor you have! It will be similar to "shock" therapy. He will have the nicotine "fix" and he won't enjoy it at all. At that point you will have to be strict, you can't allow him to have any analogs otherwise he will just stick with those. I would also say, avoid vaping in front of him. There's no need to make him "suffer" making him vape terrible flavors and see you vaping on the good ones.
Remember, you are that father, you are the man. Be strict and make the rules. If you see him or hear stories about him smoking take is computer for a week, that will show him. He his too young to have his life destroyed by cigarettes.
Wow, touchy subject.
As the parent to 5 kids who all use tobacco products, I understand your issue. Prior to them turning 18, it was a no-go with me and their use of tobacco products. They still found them, they still used them, but it wasn't from me. I did the best I could but I wasn't the only parent involved, so I could only do so much.
My 20 year old daughter chews, but I have bought her the gear to vape (pretty stuff, good grief!) but she hasn't fully committed.
If I were in the position you are in, I would probably do what I am doing with my daughter right now. Similar to Thunderball's recommendation.
Just my Best of luck to you and your kid!
As the parent to 5 kids who all use tobacco products, I understand your issue. Prior to them turning 18, it was a no-go with me and their use of tobacco products. They still found them, they still used them, but it wasn't from me. I did the best I could but I wasn't the only parent involved, so I could only do so much.
My 20 year old daughter chews, but I have bought her the gear to vape (pretty stuff, good grief!) but she hasn't fully committed.
If I were in the position you are in, I would probably do what I am doing with my daughter right now. Similar to Thunderball's recommendation.
Just my
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