Unhappy w/ DSE801

[BHOyeah]

Hello, Just got it today. I was under the understanding that as far as standard units go, the 801 and 501 were the attys of choice for thicker vapor. However my 801 does not produce more than a few wisps of vapor. In fact I get the same amount of vapor dry hitting as with a cart installed.

Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks

 

[kellie]

When I first got my 510 it did the same thing and actually the carts had dried up some. I add more juice and after a couple of hits it worked awsome

 

[BHOyeah]

Thanks, I am adding juice. I even squeeze the cart to get the juice to the top then I hold the unit facing down so the unit is working with gravity. Very little vapor is produced but plenty of nasty burned taste and dry mouth. I am not a tobacco smoker but at this point I would rather puff on an analog.

 

[breakfastchef]

The 801 helped me to quit smoking analogs so I have a fondness for that atomizer. Throw some voltage at the 801 and it really shines. Consider purchasing a high-voltage vaping (HVV) device. You will no longer have to be concerned with battery problems you normally have with typical screw-in batteries.

 

[laurieok]

I think you are getting the primer on the atty. It tastes nasty!!!! Keep puffing and you will get thru this. It just takes a little time. Blow out the atty from the battery side to get any extra out and then put 1 or 2 drops of liquid straight on the atty (the mesh part) and start puffing. It will get better!!!!

 

[BHOyeah]

The 801 helped me to quit smoking analogs so I have a fondness for that atomizer. Throw some voltage at the 801 and it really shines. Consider purchasing a high-voltage vaping (HVV) device. You will no longer have to be concerned with battery problems you normally have with typical screw-in batteries.

Thanks,

At the top of this page there is an add. In it there is a standard e-cig, no passthrough or HV batt. pk and that thing is putting out at least 5X the vapor as my 801. I paid a lot of $ for the 801 kit. If it worked at least 1/2 way descently I would try a passthrough. I don't want to fork out another $40 for a passthrough unless I know this thing works! Besides I have read many a testimony about how great the 801s are without mods. I know many of you have a fondness, as breakfastchef puts it, for the 801 atty, that is why I chose the kit that I did. I do not want to "dis" anybody here, I just want my $ to be well spent and to share that same fondness.

Thank you.

 

[HaploVoss]

I'm not sure what to say for sure- because I have been reading that the 801 has changed a bit to a 'high bridge'? these days? on many models ... but I used a Pen Style for a very long time and this is what I can recommend.

1) If it gets even slightly flooded at all you're done. Try removing the cartridge, pulling the atty off the battery, and blowing HARD through the atty from the battery end into a paper towel.

- Once you have done that, palce atty back onto battery and try taking a few puffs straight off the atty - without a cartridge (yep just a straight open pipe)
- If you get some decent vapor, then the cartridges are flooding the atty, and I have had probably 5 bad batches of carts in my experience that did this. Try dabbing your cart dry a little with paper towel and give it a shot.

2) Does it kinda smell a little? Maybe the cartridges are a little dry as stated earlier? -> Even if you squeeze juice to top - if they are not full it will suck back down to bottom when you let go. Try squeezing a few drops right down the tube onto the atty, then take a few puffs directly on the stomizer (No cartridge)
- still having problems?

3) Blow out your atty good, slap on a new cartridge, and just keep puffing. Make sure there is not some sort of factory residue left over on the coil. Take long - slow - full drags on that thing until the light starts blinking on the battery every time and just keep at it until that atty gets H-O-T.

If you still have problems, you have to face the fact that at the rate these things get turned out you may have just possible gotten a lemon. Nothing personal against you from the company you ordered from - it simply happens. I'm sure if you still have trouble after trying these things you can just report your issues to said company and try out a replacement.

Take care and I wish you the best!
- Hap

 

[AngusATAT]

Argh... how did I post to the wrong thread?

I need to up the nic in my juice! lol.

 

[BHOyeah]

OK, Thanks to Hap's detailed instructions I can get some decent vapor. Maybe I still need to practice and perfect my technique, because I am still not satisfied. But there is hope

I do have a question that may help; what part of the atomizer should I drop the liquid on? Mine has a brass disk with a black "nub" protruding from the center.

Oh, what is a "high bridge" and how do I tell If I have one?8-o LOL

 

[HaploVoss]

Basically try to 'hit the middle' when you drip down the tube onto the atomizer. Do not drip more than 2 or 3 drops at a time or you will end up 'flooding' the atty and it will take you a while to burn off enough fluid to start vaping properly - or you have to blow it back out again, etc.

BUT, what it boils down to (no pun intended) is that when you look down the 'barrel' of your 801, there is a whiteish coil in the very bottom. It glows cherry red and atomizes or vaporizes the juice so really.. as long as you get the juice down there... let it sit a few seconds... then give it a shot, you should be good to go.

High or low bridge someone else will have to answer because my unit is like 2 years old now and I do not know what the diff is between the two sorry.

Take care,
- Hap

 

[Joe81]

i don't have an 801, but i felt the same about my 510 for a bit...how u inhale it can make the biggest difference in vapor...try the softest inhale u can for decent vapor...try a direct/lung inhale for clouds of vapor & big throat hit, although the lung inhale is too big for some...

PS. ur atomizer needs time to break in also, give it a couple days or more...

 

[breakfastchef]

The battery you are using with your 801 is providing about 3.7 volts of power. This produces vapor and minimal throat hit with an 801-style atomizer. If you added a manual switch power source, which allows you to manually fire the atomizer for a longer period of time, the vapor production and warmth of the vapor would increase. If you were to try a manual passthrough (the kind without the in-line battery), you would be getting about 5 volts of power from a good USB source plus the added benefit of the manual switch. That should give you a pretty good idea of how the 801-type atomizer operates at a higher voltage.

I built a DIY passthrough using simple copper plumbing fittings, a fairly robust momentary switch from Radio Shack, an old USB cable laying around the house and the battery fitting modified from a 1/4" phone jack (also from Rasio Shack). It was cheap to make, works well and is very satisfying.

Vaping is not always cheap and easy as you take the journey toward finding your perfect device. Keep at it and reject the analog!

Thanks,

At the top of this page there is an add. In it there is a standard e-cig, no passthrough or HV batt. pk and that thing is putting out at least 5X the vapor as my 801. I paid a lot of $ for the 801 kit. If it worked at least 1/2 way descently I would try a passthrough. I don't want to fork out another $40 for a passthrough unless I know this thing works! Besides I have read many a testimony about how great the 801s are without mods. I know many of you have a fondness, as breakfastchef puts it, for the 801 atty, that is why I chose the kit that I did. I do not want to "dis" anybody here, I just want my $ to be well spent and to share that same fondness.

Thank you.

 

[BHOyeah]

Thanks for all the replies.

I have a high bridge. Maybe someone can explain how this might effect the performance?

I would put in an order for a good passthrough (PureSmoker) today if I could get my unit to work SATISFACTORILY. I did not expect to get monster drags off a standard unit, but the drags I am getting now just do not justify taking a chance on forking over more $ for what could possibly be just average drags.

Now I have heard talk of a white coil down in the center of these attys, but mine has a black protusion coming up from the center. I would imagine that my black thing would be the same as the white thing you all talk about, or am I missing some part down in there?

 

[breakfastchef]

At this point, discussion about bridges is really not necessary. If you are not getting any enjoyment out of your 801 starter kit, there are not many suggestions one can make as to how to proceed. Any suggestion = more money. Vaping can be a money pit in the short term between buying devices and smapling e-liquids. It is the nature of this new habit.

Put you location in your profile. There may be vapers near you that may let you try out some other devices.

 

[kcr]

Some of the coils appear darker than others. Don't worry about that, just aim for whatever protrusion you see when you look down the cartridge end of the atomizer.

When I first came here, I couldn't get more than a sad little wisp of vapor out of anything I tried. Someone said to take soft, gentle drags, like sipping something hot through a straw. That was a big part of my problem--I thought I wasn't drawing hard *enough.*

The hardest part is learning to draw. And they all draw differently, so learn on what you already have instead of doing like me and ordering one of everything right off the bat.

And, the more you use the atty, once you get the draw right, the better it gets. They like to be broken in a bit.