Unreliable parts

[wdave]

See below for the ecigs I've tried.

I've found these parts to be unreliable:

- DSE901/RN4075 atomizers.
- DSE901/RN4075 auto batteries.
- DSE901 pass through with manual switch.
- Misnamed RN4075 carts supposedly for DSE901.
- M401 atomizers.
- M401 auto batteries.
- 510 atomizers NOT FROM TOTALLY WICKED. TW's are reliable.
- 510 PCC.
- Npro because of excessive juice in the mouth.

Assume you don't like the size of 801 as I don't, you can see why I chose the 510. I now have the 510 mega-batteries, which I have found to be reliable.

Dave

 

[SKORN]

Have you had good luck with multipack atomizers from TW?
I've heard it's a crapshoot and have shied away from them.

 

[wdave]

Have you had good luck with multipack atomizers from TW?
I've heard it's a crapshoot and have shied away from them.

In general, TW's atomizers have had more consistent quality than other places I've tried. The five packs are no different. I really doubt TW actually tests the singles anyway

Dave

 

[SKORN]

Thanks for your experience wdave.

 

[Jim Davis]

See below for the ecigs I've tried.

I've found these parts to be unreliable:

- DSE901/RN4075 atomizers.
- DSE901/RN4075 auto batteries.
- DSE901 pass through with manual switch.
- Misnamed RN4075 carts supposedly for DSE901.
- M401 atomizers.
- M401 auto batteries.
- 510 atomizers NOT FROM TOTALLY WICKED. TW's are reliable.
- 510 PCC.
- Npro because of excessive juice in the mouth.

Assume you don't like the size of 801 as I don't, you can see why I chose the 510. I now have the 510 mega-batteries, which I have found to be reliable.

Dave

I've had absolutely no problems with any of those models. (901 / 801 / 401 / 4081 (npro) / 510. All attys & batts have been fine for months now. The only drawback I have is the short battery life on the original 510 batteries, but they're still charging and running.

 

[cyberwolf]

Reliability on e-cig stuff is really a hit or miss affair. I've had atomizers from the same shipment of 901s, 401s and 510s be great or lousy and last for months or weeks. The one item that I can't agree with is 401 batteries. I'm still using the first ones I got 5 months ago and have yet to have one fail. (if that's not a jinx, I don't know what is!)

 

[Walrus]

I've had no problems with true Joye 510 atomizers. I expected them to be crappy like some 901/801 attys I've had, so I bought like 100 of them... but the first one lasted 3 weeks, and I've been on the second for 5 weeks already. Guess my stash will last a while.

 

[abhowe]

I love Totally Wicked, buy from them all the time..... Never had a problem with any of their products...... Their Customer Service is excellent.......

 

[Adik Ted]

Unreliability is the scourge of the industry. I'm fed up demonstrating the product to people only to find the battery's cuts out for 2 minutes or the atomisers ****. When I've got a good battery and atomiser in unison I get easy draw, decent throat hit and loads of vapour. If I could get that all the time I'd become a reseller myself but getting the 3 of them together is about as rare as scoring a hat-trick in football.

 

[prof beard]

I've never had a single DOA atty (901, 510, or 801). Have used loads of 901 attys since February (I'm of the trog school and use the same atty for two or three weeks and then bin it). I've had one of two die in the first couple of weeks - that's all.

I've had a number of multipacks from TW and had no DOAs as yet.

 

[trog100]

I've never had a single DOA atty (901, 510, or 801). Have used loads of 901 attys since February (I'm of the trog school and use the same atty for two or three weeks and then bin it). I've had one of two die in the first couple of weeks - that's all.

I've had a number of multipacks from TW and had no DOAs as yet.

for general readership not you prof.. we use and test hundreds of the TW multi pack atomizers... the no warranty which make major sense is all about cutting expensive western handling costs down..

we know for %100 certain DOA atomizers are extremely rare.. one in hundreds..

we test every one we get.. i am being honest when i say one in hundreds are DOA..

now for the problems.. some users on the TW boards have reported three out of five being dead.. we know this cannot be true.. the problem is how the user tests them.. they do not as we do use known good batteries with good connections.. they i use any old half worn out things they happen to have..

sooo testing a five pack of atomizers on less than good batteries can appear to be dead atomizers to the user.. they report it as such and claim a new ones..

the seller cannot allow for user mess ups.. we also know a lot of e cig problems are user mess ups..

these things were never really meant to be swapped about willy nilly.. some spare parts will not work with other half worn out spare parts..

this all causes major headaches for the seller.. my atomizer dosnt taste right can i have a new one can lead to the need for a very expensive chain of emails and sellers time.. it massively puts the price up..

this can make a warranty on a three dollar atomizer from china a very expensive item once the handling costs are factored in..

we know exactly what the sell cheap no warranty multipack thing is all about and it really does make sense..

there are no such thing as sub standard atomizers.. multi pack no warranty atomizers are exactly the same as any other atomizers.. selling them cheap and with no warranty in multi packs make perfect sense for everyone..

the fact you get five is the guarantee of functionality.. if you get the odd dud one.. so what.. chuck it and carry on.. it all works out cheaper for everyone concerned in the end..

never ever buy one single e cig part.. never ever rely on one single e cig part.. always buy cheap and always buy in multiples.. trust the seller or dont buy from them.. over-long guarantees with the seller having to price in sending out multiple parts because he knows he will have to is a fools game.. a very expensive postal email merry go round.. give TW credit for trying to put an end to it..

basically a warranty on a reliable part costs bugger all.. a warranty on a less than reliable part costs a fortune.. the bakers dozen principle is the best way.. in fact its the only sensible way.. google bakers dozen to find out what the principle is about..

trog

 

[lawnman3]

looks like a tw ad to me ha ha

 

[Psyc]

looks like a tw ad to me ha ha

If the forums cut out all threads claiming that BRANDNAME atomizers/batteries outperformed OTHERBRAND atomizers/batteries, we'd have half a forum left.

 

[trog100]

looks like a tw ad to me ha ha

it does.. but there is nothing special about TW atomizers.. or any other atomizer come to that.. all i am trying to say is the multi pack way of buying (selling) them is a good idea and why..

TW atomizers are just as bad or just as good as any others.. depends on your viewpoint..

on one hand we have the sell cheap no warranty and in mulipack TW way and the other extreme is the Janty six month guarantee way..

in ether case the atomizers are likely to be the same atomizers.. one way is cost effective and cheap the other way has to finance a whole return/email merry go round.. nothing comes free..

take your pick.. pay for the silly merry go round or dont.. the big (misconception) is an e cig with a long warranty is of better quality.. it isnt it just means the seller via the return merry go round will be sending you new ones as the old ones wear out.. cos wear out they will.. and the merry go round is an expensive (and inconvenient) way of selling things..

trog

 

[Fedor]

take your pick.. pay for the silly merry go round or dont.. the big (misconception) is an e cig with a long warranty is of better quality.. it isnt it just means the seller via the return merry go round will be sending you new ones as the old ones wear out.. cos wear out they will.. and the merry go round is an expensive (and inconvenient) way of selling things..

trog

Fully agreed.

 

[Scottbee]

"the big (misconception) is an e cig with a long warranty is of better quality"

Yep.. it's the "Sears DieHard" marketing ploy. There's nothing magic about the DieHard.. at best it is an adequate battery. But it outsold the competition by a long shot.

 

[googled]

I think I've only had one real atomizer death in over 7months since I started vaping. The rest have died due to being 'overclocked' with 7-8 volts . Seeing how much abuse 901's and especially 4075's(TW's 901's) can take I find it difficult to understand why so many people seem to have reliability problems, in regular 3.7v use I can only assume it's dirty contacts. 510's seem to be even more robust but I do consider them to be disposable, if an atty lasts 2weeks plus then its done its job.

 

[wdave]

Every time I hear someone say a 901/4075 is great and has no problems, I hear another newcommer dropping $50 for nothing.

BTW, after posting my experience with unreliable parts, I realized I hadn't really given the Npro much of a chance, as the thought of paying that kind of money wasn't attractive in the first place.

I learned that I was wrong about refilling the Npro. I figured out how to refill them very easily, and avoid excessive juice in my mouth. I also got as good of throat hit as my 510, using the same juice.

So I thought, now this Npro ecig LOOKS like better quality than normal. I think I'll give it another chance. However, after a short while I found that one battery required a very long, strong draw just to activate it. The other wouldn't hold a charge. The Npro has a problem with batteries. Obviously, the Npro isn't enough better quality to justify it's price.

I also found another atty for the M401 and tried it again. The hit was very weak compared to my 510. Not as strong as I remembered it to be.

But I'll still give the M401 cudos for great looks. If a newcommer wants good looks and isn't a stickler for lung hit, it is worth a try. Of course the 801 is certainly worth a try, as it isn't in the same class as the minis.

Dave

 

[wdave]

Also...I took a look in the mirror while I as vaping the Npro. I really think I look much cooler with the ridiculously long black 510/megabatt than with the Npro's cigarette look. Just knowing this when I first started would have saved me $500