Upon Further Review.. E-cig Breakdown!

[scintar]

Bump for this question ^^

Ok, What I gather is there is no SGS public online database search. You can request a report from SGS tho.
Certificates for Products by SGS

here is a link to a pdf of one mfg's cherry flavor. Report prepared via SGS..
Hope this helps you.
Ec502

 

[scintar]

Has this been made a Stcky yet ?
If it has'nt then it should be. If it is not going to be made one then i'll stick the link into my sig.

This i disagree with. " leaving no smell "

More info and studies................... ECA take a look.

http://healthnz.co.nz/RuyanCartridgeReport30-Oct-08.pdf
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/bibliography.htm
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/supersmoker.pdf
PROPYLENE GLYCOL
http://www.chem.unep.ch/irptc/sids/OECDSIDS/57-55-6.pdf
http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/tox1.pdf
Nicotine and addiction. (tobaccoharmreduction.org)
E Cigarette Interview with David Sweanor - Part 2

 

[emus]

Your study shows details of e-cig ingredients. Maybe ingredients should be "trade secrets" like Philip Morris ingredients.

From Philip Morris web site:
"We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which,if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

Doesn't every food and drink in the USA discloses all ingredients regardless of "trade secrets".

 

[Niniane]

Your study shows details of e-cig ingredients. Maybe ingredients should be "trade secrets" like Philip Morris ingredients.

From Philip Morris web site:
"We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which,if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

Doesn't every food and drink in the USA discloses all ingredients regardless of "trade secrets".

Even if every food and drink discloses them confidentially to a federal agency, they don't always disclose them in detail to the public. Something like "the Colonel's secret blend of 11 herbs and spices" from KFC would be an example, or if you've ever watched food shows where they visit a factory, they frequently say the employees couldn't give out their "secret recipe" to the public (many even have to sign NDA's). Lots of other foods just list "spices" on their ingredient lists as well.

 

[emus]

Good point. Still, it would be nice of Philip Morris to provide all ingredients of their cancer stick to the public. Unless of course, they are sure the additives are perfectly safe to burn in their death sticks. I would hope most trade secret foods and drinks are considered to be safe, unlike analogs.

I've read some FDA officials don't know ingredients/emissons of e-cigs.

What kind of rocket scientist does government need to hire in order to determine the emissions of an e-cig anyway? I mean the Gov would be willing to cough up some dough if e-cigs can save thousands of lives, right?

I am amazed that the cancer research organizations are not frantically testing e-cigs for potential cancer prevention. I mean their goal is to cure cancer ASAP, right?

Dazed and confused.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Good point. Still, it would be nice of Philip Morris to provide all ingredients of their cancer stick to the public.

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I've read some FDA officials don't know ingredients/emissons of e-cigs.

The new tobacco legislation requires the tobacco companies to disclose all the ingredients. It's part of the new labeling standard.

 

[emus]

I just looked at Philip Morris site and thought they are withholding trade secret ingredients. Maybe the new regs will take care of it like you said.

Philip Morris web site June 17, 2009:
"We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which, if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

 

[scintar]

The new tobacco legislation requires the tobacco companies to disclose all the ingredients. It's part of the new labeling standard.

Ahhhh YEAH, like that's gonna really happen. Do you really think that the fda will compromise the future of BT and the tax revenue they produce?
We will never REALLY know what'sin them. IMO

 

[nitewriter]

If they consider it "Trade Secret" it would indicate the formula is not patented. Once it's patented, it becomes public knwledge.

Coke is another example of trade secret.

 

[SavageAngel]

www cbc ca/health/story/2009/03/27/electronic-smoking html
LOL I just had a friend send this to me. Makes me laugh. Like e-smoking could be anywhere near as bad as smoking a regular cigarette...

 

[scintar]

www cbc ca/health/story/2009/03/27/electronic-smoking html
LOL I just had a friend send this to me. Makes me laugh. Like e-smoking could be anywhere near as bad as smoking a regular cigarette...

Yup, They think people are just plain stupid.

 

[foghorn]

This covers the hardware not the liquids used. Which is what your inhaling. The liquid is what needs to be looked into by these guys,

 

[feldm4n]

The FDA has posted their findings as of today July 22nd I would post the link but im too new and am restricted.

 

[dayswithout]

good reading indeed. Hopefully this news changes government´s opinion about all this.

 

[Koman]

good reading indeed. Hopefully this news changes government´s opinion about all this.

Ha ha, just hope on that

 

[Travis1969]

February 9, 2010 12:46 p.m. EST

Study: 'Electronic cigarettes' don't deliver

"They are as effective at nicotine delivery as puffing on an unlit cigarette," said Dr. Thomas Eissenberg, at the school's Institute for Drug and Alcohol Studies.

 

[North Shore]

I contacted Dr. Eissenberg and mentioned that he should probably test products that were not junk. I shared my own experience and how ecigs helped me quit smoking. The Dr. thanked me for my input and support but he may or may not investigate other products. He may be trying to be an honest broker of information, or he may be an agent for special interests. In this world it is often hard to tell, online or off.

 

[JennRNCCU]

I've searched OVID, EBSCO, CINHAL, all the search engines for legitimate research on electronic cigarettes and wonder if I'm the only one who thinks its odd that FDA, World Health Organization, etc etc keep saying "BEWARE" yet no one has actually sponsored an actual quantitative study on e-cigs???
Seriously, do we live in the 50's? Are you telling me "Big Tobacco" still runs everything?
Maybe I'm being overly cynical!
Still searching...wish me luck!

 

[LLOTEK]

(snip) There is the voice technology technique that makes the atomizers work based on voice, noise, blows, puffs or loud tones (snip)

Sorry guys, I just don't understand the why or more accurately the wherefore of this.
Should I shout at my dead atties???

Or do the atties play possum in the presence of noise and brutality???

No, you just have to let out a long satisfied groan with every inhale. to show others how much you love your new e-cig and actually get your fix...lol

 

[LLOTEK]

Your study shows details of e-cig ingredients. Maybe ingredients should be "trade secrets" like Philip Morris ingredients.

From Philip Morris web site:
"We annually report cigarette ingredient information to the Department of Health and Human Services and to the State of Texas. Some of the information submitted to these governmental agencies on a confidential basis relates to detailed brand recipes which,if disclosed publicly, would compromise our ability to maintain valuable trade secrets for competitive purposes. "

Doesn't every food and drink in the USA discloses all ingredients regardless of "trade secrets".

In know in Canada you have to disclose the ingredients, just not the amounts or way the bond them. thats how you keep trade secrets...you cant just grab all the ingredients throw them in a pot and stir, then bang, I got me a Mars Bar etc.