Urgent E-smokers Unite!

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palermo45

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In addition to that, make sure you tell your personal physician to document in your charts that you have successfuly lowered your intake or halted your intake of analogs thanks to the e-cig. There are over 250K Doctors registered with the AMA (American Medical Association) You know, the organization that Obama is pleading to to help him get his health care plan to go through!! I have spoken to numerous Doctors who have had nothing but great things to say about e-cigs. If physicians truly follow their ethical oath, I can not see how they could not want e-cigs around. Analogs kill PERIOD!!! E-cigs may have an ingredient or 2 which have trace elements which are carcinogenic (tobacco) but they do not have TAR!! That is the MAIN KILLER!!!!
 

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What tests have the FDA done for Gum or the Patch? Have they checked for any toxic substances?? If nicotine contains cancer causing agents which are in e-cigs, then the same nicotine would have the same cancer causing agents in the Gum and the Patch as well !!! There is no difference in the nicotine which is found in the Patch, Nicotine Gum, Nicotrol Inhaler, of E-cigs!! It all is derived from tobacco!!!
 

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Don't know if this helps, but anyone who wants can link into my blog: Vick's Vapor Blog where I do some debunking on their favorite arguements.....and I will be putting up another blog article on this latest turn of events very soon (as soon as I can get the time to write it!)

Also, Southeastern Wisconsin will be running a news spot on our E-Cigs this Friday @ 10:00 - the timing couldn't be better - I'm hoping it will be a positive article, and it was to be a full feature, not just a little blurb.... WTMJ4 is the channel for any and all in the area interested.

Awesome thanks will use the info -- been swamped all day dealing with this ignorance nationwide -- I cant believe media just takes info spoonfed like it does it really amazes me sometimes.
 

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What tests have the FDA done for Gum or the Patch? Have they checked for any toxic substances?? If nicotine contains cancer causing agents which are in e-cigs, then the same nicotine would have the same cancer causing agents in the Gum and the Patch as well !!! There is no difference in the nicotine which is found in the Patch, Nicotine Gum, Nicotrol Inhaler, of E-cigs!! It all is derived from Tobacco!!!

I will try to dig it up for you I believe someone on forums already posted but yes those same elements can be found in most NRT's to date.
 

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Awesome thanks will use the info -- been swamped all day dealing with this ignorance nationwide -- I cant believe media just takes info spoonfed like it does it really amazes me sometimes.

No kidding! It's amazing. I've sent a bunch of emails and made a couple calls today. There was one article I read that was basically a handful of quotes from an anti-smoking doctor. There was 0 reporting on that one, just opinion presented as fact. Amazing! :confused:
 

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No kidding! It's amazing. I've sent a bunch of emails and made a couple calls today. There was one article I read that was basically a handful of quotes from an anti-smoking doctor. There was 0 reporting on that one, just opinion presented as fact. Amazing! :confused:

Yes once thing they dont realize there is more of us than they got working for the FDA we need to swing our truth stick hard this go.
 

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ecigarettedirect .co .uk in their interviews section...

has a link to people the media might listen to in regards to e-cig safety, people who have made positive statements about them so far...

I know the university of alberta in Canada is doing studies on these devices as well i'm going to see what I can get from them.. here is a link i found...

tobaccoharmreduction.org
 
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What we're seeing is something called "mass mind control". One government agency says something bad and suddenly, everybody becomes "experts" on the subject they have absolutely no clue over. Typical example of the government doing the thinking for the people. Old social enginering scheme perfected by the Nazis and in use in the US today.

This will be my theme for tomorrows new video. Feel free to use it.
 
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TheIllustratedMan

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BigJim!

I appreciate you using your voice to speak out in this campaign. We all need to step up here.
However, don't you think that making inflammatory comments and insulting people's intelligence is counter-productive? Present them with the facts and let them make their own conclusions as to whether or not the government is trying to put a brain slug on their heads. I really think that this is the way to win this thing.

-Nate
 

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What we're seeing is something called "mass mind control". One government agency says something bad and suddenly, everybody becomes "experts" on the subject they have absolutely no clue over. Typical example of the government doing the thinking for the people. Old social enginering scheme perfected by the Nazis and in use in the US today.

This will be my theme for tomorrows new video. Feel free to use it.


BigJim--I look forward to another, what I am going to call a "BigJim Fireside Chat" video--you have not done one in a while or I must have missed it. Again, we look forward to another one.

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BigJim--I look forward to another, what I am going to call a "BigJim Fireside Chat" video--you have not done one in a while or I must have missed it. Again, we look forward to another one.

Sun

My pooter broke last week, bad crash, which is why there has been no videos and my posts here slowed down. I had to reconstruct everything from scratch from a refurbished Dell I bought last week. Paid $69.00 for it and after putting in MY hardware, it runs like a champ. :D

I just need to update the God Awful installed Celeron processor to a Pentium 4 and I'll be good to go. :thumbs:
 
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My pooter broke last week, bad crash. I had to reconstruct everything from scratch from a refurbished Dell I bought last week. Paid $69.00 for it and after putting in MY hardware, it runs like a champ. :D

I just need to update the God Awful installed Celeron processor to a Pentium 4 and I'll be good to go. :thumbs:

Big Jim--glad you got the computer up and running--we sure need a fireside chat now more then ever Jim!!!


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However, don't you think that making inflammatory comments and insulting people's intelligence is counter-productive? Present them with the facts and let them make their own conclusions as to whether or not the government is trying to put a brain slug on their heads. I really think that this is the way to win this thing.

-Nate

Actually Nate I think I'm being way too kind to it all. If I really spoke the cold hard truth, I'd be arrested by the US Secret Service.

It's time that people wake up to the fact that they need to start thinking for themselves, and not let the government dictate to them. It's not about the "health" angle, it's about the $500 MILLION or so dollars Big Tobacco, Big Pharma, and taxes, LOST to the e-cig just in this year alone, and this year isn't even over yet. Incentive enough to use the mind control police to ban these things.

I do not think it's any "coincindence" that the FDA suddenly comes out with this "report" so close to the end of a major lawsuit and when e-cigs were getting maximum exposure. No coincidence at all.
 
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BigJimW

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Hey, I agree with you. Just seems to me that presenting that as our face is going to turn off a lot of people who will think that we're just antigovernment nutjobs.
Meh, keep on keepin' on man. Give 'em hell. :D

Think about this for a second. Anybody who starts questioning the government are always branded nutjobs, left wing extremists, nazi, commies, traitors, etc.

The US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence does allow for questioning the governments motives and, as the Declaration of Independence states, the people should abolish a non functional government, which the US government certainly has become in the last decade.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.

But government got so big and fat that anybody who even as much as starts the questions are branded as a wacko, nutjob, pinko commie, nazi, etc, and they use the media to fuel the fire and instill public fear and discredit the person questioning them. Like the FDA did the other day with their "finding" on the toxins in the e-cig.

Like I said, mind control.
 
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