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USP Glycerine?

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  1. augie

    augie Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2009
    Virginia
    ok so was in CVS, and asked for USP grade Glycerin (cause I have enough PG 40mg and need to cut it with something before i add flavoring :). They pointed out which aisle it was on and i was reading on it that it's for skin protection...this is the SAME glycerin we use correct? it was like 117ml for 4.99.
     
  2. RenaissancePuffer

    RenaissancePuffer Supplier Associate ECF Veteran

    Jul 10, 2009
    New Germany, MN
    That will work just fine. I can't say if it's Vegetable Glycerine or not, but I've used USP Glycerine and it works great, nice vapor production. May sweeten your liquid a bit as well.
     
  3. alsmom

    alsmom Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 13, 2009
    Crypton, Colorado
    I believe as long it is food grade, but what the hell do I know!! Hope someone else will reply!!
    I have some glycerol here that is used by body builders/weight lifters(in protein shakes), which can be ingested, so thats what I would use. You can check GNC/Health type stores.
     
  4. Scottes

    Scottes Super Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Aug 31, 2009
    Boston, MA
    Glycerin is useful stuff. As long as it says USP it's OK. IMHO it's even better if it says "100% Vegetable Glycerin" but you can use the stuff from CVS as long as it says USP on the bottle.
     
  5. augie

    augie Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2009
    Virginia
    see that's the thing it stated skin protectant, and things like do not get in your eyes, and if you OD your screwed etc Glycerine And"something"...but also said USP and was over by the healthcare products like shampoo and skin products..
     
  6. Hookaddict

    Hookaddict Full Member

    Oct 25, 2009
    i use vg from Heritage Products. Got it at whole foods and I pump out vapor like no other and for some reason my pulls feel smoother and less harsh.
     
  7. the86d

    the86d Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 13, 2009
    So. California, USA
    I use the Walmart brand after switching from 2 types of "Cake Shop" brands.

    I have read that they are all OEM'd (meaning that one company makes it, and sells it as their own store brand).

    Mine is 177ml, but WalMart is cheaper by at least a dollar each.

    In that same thread (on this same 4um) it is also stated that they are all VG, not the other. He worked in the industry or something. I searched and couldn't find it again.
     
  8. Kenwood

    Kenwood Full Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 20, 2009
    Georgia USA
    Got mine at Walmart in phamacy section. Also usp. Made by Humco. 177ml for about $3.00 if I remember right. Lots of vapor! :rolleyes:
     
  9. Seaking

    Seaking Full Member

    Nov 1, 2009
    Me and some friends smoke a hookah from time to time and I make my own shisha :] We use Humco usp glycerin from walmart in the mix and it's GREAT. Produces ALOT of vapor, hilarious thing is that it makes your voice sound REALLY DEEP and slow if you talk while exhaling, pretty entertaining when one of your friends is convinced he's hallucinating it XD not as extreme as sulfur hexaflouride that would be amazing XD When i start making home made e-liquid ill be using it in my vapor king ;D

    Oh, and how goes it everyone i'm Seaking i'll just be trillin in your forum a bit ;]
     
  10. markarich159

    markarich159 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 30, 2009
    PA, USA
    They should make this a sticky because the newbies always ask this question. I'm a pharmacist in PA. I'm going to copy and paste a post I wrote in another subforum:

    Go to the skin care aisle of most any pharmacy and you'll find a small(usually 6oz) bottle labled Glycerine, USP(Some pharmacies don't carry outright , but will special order for you). The label may have it listed as CVS Glycerine, USP or Rite Aid Glycerine, USP or Humco Glycerine, USP or Family Pharmacy Glycerine, USP etc.. you get my point. Whatever it's labeled, it's Glycerine, USP 99.5% anhydrous(meaning 0.5% water). It will cost anywhere from $3 to $6 for 6oz.(CHEAP) This is vegetable glycerine, absolutely, positively, no doubt. How do I know this? I'm a pharmacist. All OTCglycerine,USP is made by 1 single manufacturer, HUMCO. It is then contract packaged into the different pharmacy labeled bottles. I've personally called HUMCO and spoke with their QA(quality assurance) person. He assured me that HUMCO's Glycerine is in fact Vegetable source Glycerine. The reason it's labeled Glycerine and not Vegetable Glycerine is because #1 it is listed in the USP as Glycerine, USP and therefore(in order to keep the USP certification) must be labeled as it's listed in the USP. #2 it would cause confusion as Glycerine is Glycerine(regardless of the source - chemically 1,2,3-propane triol also sometimes referred to as Glycerol), to add the moniker VEGETABLE, makes it sound like it's two different and distinct products, it isn't. Also, USP grade Glycerine is the purest you can get. Food Grade "vegetable Glycerine" you get in health food store saying 99.9% is BS. Since they do not have to meet any standard(such as USP standards) they could say anything, they could say 10000% pure. If you get USP grade, you know you are getting exactly what is labeled(within allowable USP limits) and it is made to most stringent requirements available in the US. (i.e. USP stands for United States Pharmacopeia- drugs have meet higher standards then foods do). Kashrut(kosher) laws are Jewish religious dietary laws having to do with the preparation of food products and really have nothing to do with the labeled purity of the product. Also, Kashrut(kosher) laws are jurisdictional(handled differently in different places). In some cases a rabbi must come to the manufacturer and verify processes and equipment conform to kosher law and in some places it's enough that the manufacturer says or thinks he is conforming to the kosher laws. In any case USP and Kosher are 2 different things. There is no such listing in the USP for "Kosher Glycerine". To the people who are feeling naseous using pharmacy bought Glycerine, USP, it may be a placebo effect(thinking your not using the real VG) or you may have a sensitivity to Glycerine(unlikely). But it is not because the Pharmacy bought Glycerine,USP is inferior or NOT Vegetable Glycerine.
     
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  11. toddmori

    toddmori Full Member

    Oct 19, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Markarich,

    That is still the best explanation I have seen of the glycerin grades. The people who are still demanding vegetable glycerine are basically the same people who see organic on the front label of a food item, and believe it without looking for the USDA certification on the back...
     
  12. Seaking

    Seaking Full Member

    Nov 1, 2009
    Nice markarich :] Yeah this is a pretty common question in ALOT of forums I visit. I agree they should make this a sticky.

    Btw, I guessed humco was vegatable glycerin because we never experienced any nausea or dizziness as i've heard of with other glycerine. I've heard bad things from people about the cvs brand but i could be wrong :/
     
  13. augie

    augie Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2009
    Virginia
    ok wish i could make this sticky...but don't think I can?
     
  14. johnny bravo

    johnny bravo Full Member

    Oct 29, 2009
    Missouri
    I found this on walgreens website, its spelled glycerin with no e on the end, wasnt sure if its the same thing. What do you think?

    Africare 100% Glycerin | Walgreens
     
  15. $igmund

    $igmund Full Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 27, 2009
    Liberty, NY
    markarich159 - thank you for this! I wish I had read it earlier - it's too late to go back to the store today. I found this product, but the pharmacist at my local rite-aid couldn't tell me anything about it.
     
  16. thewomenfolk

    thewomenfolk Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 6, 2009
    Colorado John 3:16
    Markarich159, Thank you SOOOO much for that clarification! I've been looking all over to know the answer to that. I've traveled sort of far to get 2 oz bottles at Hobby Lobby, and yet I've got a Walmart 2 minutes from my house.

    So....thanks again, you've saved me time and money, not to mention answered my question as to whether this skin-care Glycerin is okay....the same as Vegetable Glycerine, and eased my mind over buying it. :D
     
  17. augie

    augie Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2009
    Virginia
    yep had I not started this thread... ;)
     
  18. crouton976

    crouton976 Full Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2009
    FYI, I have been using the same glycerin from CVS for about a month now, with no problems. I too was worried about it at first, but was told by a couple of others here that it is just fine. Just make sure to thin it with distilled water before adding it to your juice, or it will be WAY too thick. I personally used a 1:6 ratio of water to glycerin, and have had no problems at all...

    $5 for a bottle that size is great, and especially since it's readily available and accessible.
     
  19. katiemarie71730

    katiemarie71730 Full Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 1, 2009
    Arkansas
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    I went to walmart and got a 117 ml bottle of USP glycering to cut the e-liquid with. If I wanted say to cut it down to 18 mg how much glycering do i need to mix with it (5x20 ml = 100 ml) ???
     
  20. crouton976

    crouton976 Full Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2009
    First, mix a bit of distilled water into your glycerin (I personally use a 1:6 water to glycerin ratio). Next, you would need to mix the glycerin/water mix into your liquid.

    the ratio breaks down like this: 36mg base:glycerin water mix e.g.

    1:1 mix = 18mg
     
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