Thanks for doing some legwork for me,actually found it today in an old toolbox,almost forgot how to use it.I've got another vapebuddy sending me a bunch of boge cart is I can cut for my torpedo tanks,I guess I'm gonna have to give up my collection of provaris tanks and cartos,I know it's a lost art but it's fun,I'm finding making juices is also shaky picked up the best black label 70/30 and its so thick it's near impossible to wick good except in the nautilus tanks any suggestions for juice would be appreciated thanks for helping out.