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KENNY V

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Thanks everything is cool now lets put this post to rest.. all is well guys im over the hump...
Sad to say I fought it long enough went though the all withdraws. Yes I know many Nic OD symptomss are same … thats what was frustrating when I was trying to transition. Anyways ill spare the detailsil and just say, I needed the WTA juice period … Ok now the reason why I didn't mention the water is bc I prob did well over the first 30 posts when asking about nicotinene , intolerancees and every other symptom imaginable had em all.
Now not sure what post I wrote in detail but I will say in short even before I had attempted to quit smoking . I have always drank half my body weight in ounces daily thats a rule of thumb . (Well over 100 onces EZ .) Both at work and home we use Ro systems , even Oxygenated system.
I have been hydrating this way for years. AND then since vaping I have prob tripled my water intake from the beginning . DURING MY ENTIRE DETOX I WAS DRINKING 2 bottles at a vape session and 2-3 more 16 Oz bottles an hour esaly yea pissing like a race horse.
Yea the only time my pee is anything but clear is my first morning pee so yes I am well hydrated my friend and know much about detox and the body .Thanks for all your concerns and all the support on this forum you guys been great.
you can read here all is well in my last recap thanks

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...031-vape-side-effects-warm-hands-dopey-2.html
I dont need a doc I feel better now than ever ...
so lets close this topic, put to rest and move forward ...thanks guys for all your help and support :)

Vape on.....:vapor::vapor::vapor:
 

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Hey Kenny... First off.. I have seen it suggested a few times in this thread, but I haven't seen you respond to it... WATER! You got to stay hydrated. The bases (both PG and VG) are humectants... meaning the are drawing water from your system... robbing you of your hydration. you need to be taking in at least 64 ounces of water a day... as a vaper, you should pretty much double that. When I first started, I had many of these same symptoms. They didn't get better until I started drinking more and more and more water. These days... the water has turned into habit, and I actually prefer it over sodas, juices and (god forbid!) my coffee! Please.. be sure you are hydrating properly!!! I, and thousands of other vapers on this forum CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH!

Now here is where it gets tricky... Nic OVERDOSE symptoms... are very similar to Nic withdraw symptoms! Irritability, headaches, restlessness, insomnia, etc. It's a tricky balancing act. For me... I figured if I was feeling this way and hadn't vaped in a while, I wasn't getting enough... If I felt the symptoms and had been vaping.. well then I was over doing it!

Your smoking habit was very similar to mine.. though for a few years less... I started vaping at 36mg! Talk about conflicting symptoms! ODing on nic while withdrawing from it?!?! Whoa! So I dropped it to 24mg and found that while the problems weren't quite as bad, they were still there. Now I am at 18mg, drinking plenty of water, and loving life! I haven't even had one of those damn migraines I got so often while smoking!

Stick with it... stay hydrated, and be patient while dialing in your chosen nic level. And please.. if after all this, you still feel like crud... see a doctor!

Oh, and stay hydrated!!!

Did I mention you need to stay hydrated? ;)

Main point... Stay hydrated! After you hydrate, hydrate again. And finish with more... lol

What I was feeling when I over nic is a headache. Sometimes like a hangover, sometimes like the flu... Usually I felt it on the back of my head/neck. Also, felt like I was super hungry, kind of like I was going to faint... Head rush galore! Sometimes feeling hot, sometimes cold... Like my body couldn't regulate my body temperature. Cold sweats... Tired and lazy but can't sleep.

Also, when I was comparing it to eating and diabetes (blood sugar) I didn't actually mean your blood sugar changes (I have no idea if it actually does) but I simply mean keeping your nic levels stable so that the peaks and valleys don't boost the desire/craving for analogs.

I started with 36mg of nic, dropped it down to 24 when I notice myself not reaching for my PVs, and bounce back and forth between 24mg and 18mg juices. Starting to drop it down again because I'm starting to get into genesis type RBAs... Recently got it so I have 12mg juices on it's way. To see how that goes. Might hang onto some 18/24mg juices for my other attys.

I don't think I have any sensitivities as far as pg or vg, so I can't say what else could be effecting you. I personally like higher vg juices for more vapor.

Don't forget to drink tons of water... As much as it sounds like a simple fix, it's really needed.
 

KENNY V

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Main point... Stay hydrated! After you hydrate, hydrate again. And finish with more... lol

What I was feeling when I over nic is a headache. Sometimes like a hangover, sometimes like the flu... Usually I felt it on the back of my head/neck. Also, felt like I was super hungry, kind of like I was going to faint... Head rush galore! Sometimes feeling hot, sometimes cold... Like my body couldn't regulate my body temperature. Cold sweats... Tired and lazy but can't sleep.

Also, when I was comparing it to eating and diabetes (blood sugar) I didn't actually mean your blood sugar changes (I have no idea if it actually does) but I simply mean keeping your nic levels stable so that the peaks and valleys don't boost the desire/craving for analogs.

I started with 36mg of nic, dropped it down to 24 when I notice myself not reaching for my PVs, and bounce back and forth between 24mg and 18mg juices. Starting to drop it down again because I'm starting to get into genesis type RBAs... Recently got it so I have 12mg juices on it's way. To see how that goes. Might hang onto some 18/24mg juices for my other attys.

I don't think I have any sensitivities as far as pg or vg, so I can't say what else could be effecting you. I personally like higher vg juices for more vapor.

Don't forget to drink tons of water... As much as it sounds like a simple fix, it's really needed.

I hear where your coming from ditto and then some . Whoooohaaahhh !!!!!What happened to me was like the perfect storm. Too hard to explain or rehash those 2 weeks . lets just say it wasn't good and it was only getting worse as I continued to quit/replace with vaping
Now very interesting you mention the dizzy because I was NOT ever dizzy until the following happened . Now im bit confused as to what the right nicotine buzz is without going over let me explain . Besides what felt like all the symptoms of over dose the anxiety was adding to the same symptoms non stop...( yup experienced vicious cycle you explained too ) but I wasnt sure still NOT SURE whatwashapening . And mine lasted 2 weeks , And then at that time I must note I had cut myself down to ZERO . So wt is that??
is that what caused the crash????

And please continue and consider this carefully. If you have a rational idea as to what could of happened id love to hear your take otherwise share what happneded to yourself ,im sure il pick up something to apply . Now if you are not sure ,thats OK say ya don't know....
I had every symptom in the book even when I was trying to vape properly , had bad equipment cardo's were goin dry and I was not getting anything or atleast I'm not sure at that time. Too much too fast ….....detoxand not enough magic juice ..

Here is that one day experience when I got dizzy ' It .was a mess .Now I never had any dizziness except when I DID NOT SMOKE ALL DAY.
Note:
this was supposed to be my last day of smoking. I had my LAST pack dated and was down to 4 a day. I had cut myself down to 3 – that day and skipped my first and second smoke an was trying to vape all day ( hence not satisfied) it was a 4 pm . I then got very disorientated to the point where I was loosing it , no focus … ( I then realizied I was going into a downward spiral fast and needed a smoke) This was MY FIRST smoke. Then I got dizzy and sick . I thought that was the end ( turning point) revelation to ending the smokes and the beginning transition to vaping .
I was dead wrong and things haven't been the same since. Less ALL the other withdrawal crap) better now but not the same . ... anyways hope that made sense .

Now I'm still a bit confused as to what caused the crash but will say I also realize I need to head off the craving before it happens and regulate my intake . Last few days been better but im still not able to get rid of the 2-4 smokes yet.

So with that said how do I know when its enough without going over board?

And what is a nicotine buz so I can still eat without eating too much? ( vaope not over vape when hungry) ??


BTW have been able to be full but sometimes it does not happen. Sometimes its too late??

and last but not least what does starting to get into genesis type RBAs... mean?


THANK YOU GUYS ALL YOUR SUPPORT I really appreciate it.:):):)
 

LuV2SkRaTcH

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I hear where your coming from ditto and then some . Whoooohaaahhh !!!!!What happened to me was like the perfect storm. Too hard to explain or rehash those 2 weeks . lets just say it wasn't good and it was only getting worse as I continued to quit/replace with vaping
Now very interesting you mention the dizzy because I was NOT ever dizzy until the following happened . Now im bit confused as to what the right nicotine buzz is without going over let me explain . Besides what felt like all the symptoms of over dose the anxiety was adding to the same symptoms non stop...( yup experienced vicious cycle you explained too ) but I wasnt sure still NOT SURE whatwashapening . And mine lasted 2 weeks , And then at that time I must note I had cut myself down to ZERO . So wt is that??
is that what caused the crash????

And please continue and consider this carefully. If you have a rational idea as to what could of happened id love to hear your take otherwise share what happneded to yourself ,im sure il pick up something to apply . Now if you are not sure ,thats OK say ya don't know....
I had every symptom in the book even when I was trying to vape properly , had bad equipment cardo's were goin dry and I was not getting anything or atleast I'm not sure at that time. Too much too fast ….....detoxand not enough magic juice ..

Here is that one day experience when I got dizzy ' It .was a mess .Now I never had any dizziness except when I DID NOT SMOKE ALL DAY.
Note:
this was supposed to be my last day of smoking. I had my LAST pack dated and was down to 4 a day. I had cut myself down to 3 – that day and skipped my first and second smoke an was trying to vape all day ( hence not satisfied) it was a 4 pm . I then got very disorientated to the point where I was loosing it , no focus … ( I then realizied I was going into a downward spiral fast and needed a smoke) This was MY FIRST smoke. Then I got dizzy and sick . I thought that was the end ( turning point) revelation to ending the smokes and the beginning transition to vaping .
I was dead wrong and things haven't been the same since. Less ALL the other withdrawal crap) better now but not the same . ... anyways hope that made sense .

Now I'm still a bit confused as to what caused the crash but will say I also realize I need to head off the craving before it happens and regulate my intake . Last few days been better but im still not able to get rid of the 2-4 smokes yet.

So with that said how do I know when its enough without going over board?

And what is a nicotine buz so I can still eat without eating too much? ( vaope not over vape when hungry) ??


BTW have been able to be full but sometimes it does not happen. Sometimes its too late??

and last but not least what does starting to get into genesis type RBAs... mean?


THANK YOU GUYS ALL YOUR SUPPORT I really appreciate it.:):):)

It's difficult to say how much to vape, like I said, I pushed the boundaries and realized it pretty fast.

Genesis type Rba's is a stainless steel wick and coil rebuildable atomizer. If you're new, probably shouldn't get into it because you can run into shorts, and ruin batteries, your device, or battery venting.

How much did you used to smoke? And how old are you? Health history? Any reason why you don't just go to an actual doctor?
 

KENNY V

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It's difficult to say how much to vape, like I said, I pushed the boundaries and realized it pretty fast.

Genesis type Rba's is a stainless steel wick and coil rebuildable atomizer. If you're new, probably shouldn't get into it because you can run into shorts, and ruin batteries, your device, or battery venting.

How much did you used to smoke? And how old are you? Health history? Any reason why you don't just go to an actual doctor?

Thanks btw wouldn't have a problem with anything mechanical/ electrical
ill be making my own soon.... lookout for the Kenny V dripper mod ;)

Lets not go back into the doc thing im fine........
Avoid the white coats ( 8 years no doc besides never sick) and if I am I get better in a few short days. Like your suppsed to .Applying , nutrition / supplementation / detox / advanced Biomed and good old common sense .
out side of smoking I am at my best health ever
Im 45years old smoked PAD for 30 years when I wanted/ needed one.... hopefully that changes soon ….

Peace now lest let this topic fade away ..
thanks for all your help

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If the moderator reads this can they lock/ close the thread thanks :)
 

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Thanks everything is cool now lets put this post to rest.. all is well guys im over the hump...
Sad to say I fought it long enough went though the all withdraws. Yes I know many Nic OD symptomss are same … thats what was frustrating when I was trying to transition. Anyways ill spare the detailsil and just say, I needed the WTA juice period … Ok now the reason why I didn't mention the water is bc I prob did well over the first 30 posts when asking about nicotinene , intolerancees and every other symptom imaginable had em all.
Now not sure what post I wrote in detail but I will say in short even before I had attempted to quit smoking . I have always drank half my body weight in ounces daily thats a rule of thumb . (Well over 100 onces EZ .) Both at work and home we use Ro systems , even Oxygenated system.
I have been hydrating this way for years. AND then since vaping I have prob tripled my water intake from the beginning . DURING MY ENTIRE DETOX I WAS DRINKING 2 bottles at a vape session and 2-3 more 16 Oz bottles an hour esaly yea pissing like a race horse.
Yea the only time my pee is anything but clear is my first morning pee so yes I am well hydrated my friend and know much about detox and the body .Thanks for all your concerns and all the support on this forum you guys been great.
you can read here all is well in my last recap thanks

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...031-vape-side-effects-warm-hands-dopey-2.html
I dont need a doc I feel better now than ever ...
so lets close this topic, put to rest and move forward ...thanks guys for all your help and support :)

Vape on.....:vapor::vapor::vapor:

Thanks for linking to the side effects. Good info!
 
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