VapeRoyalty - Nemesis and Patriot RDA (clones)

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espkh123

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For review today we will be looking at 2 things:
hcigar Nemesis Clone that I bought from VapeRoyalty.

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Now for the product link from VapeRoyalty:
HCigar Brass and Stainless Steel Two Tone Nemesis Clone

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Let me start off by saying this mod is fantastic. I use it every day and I love every second of it.
The nemesis logo is engraved deeply and HCigar is the only company I have seen come this close to replicating the depth of the real nemesis.
The real nemesis might be a bit deeper but it is hardly noticeable, so props to HCigar on that one.
Another thing is that the threading on the tubes feel very secure.
Anyone who has ever used an SVD will know what I mean when I say it doesn't have loose threading.
The locking ring works flawlessly as well. It doesn't move randomly in your pocket and has a very secure threading.
So far every atomizer that I have put on there has worked flawlessly.
Including but not limited to:
-igo-W
-Patriot
-Omega

Very secure connection on my atomizers which shocked me since this is a clone.
I was not expecting anything good but they are there to impress.
My batteries (all 18650) fit fine to.
None rattle.
I have tried the AW IMR's, Sony VTC4, eFest.
Fantastic clone so far! And to make it even better? You can swap genuine pieces in with the clone.
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Now on to the bad side.
This part will be short! Hardly anything is wrong with this clone.

For starters, this is a clone and even though I am happy they made it as close to the real as possible, they branded it like a real nemesis.
Con and pro for some. But I'll label it as a con.
Also, The fire spring loaded button sucks.
If you don't hit it right in the middle it is either really crunchy, or it doesn't move.
Took me about 2 days to get used to it.
My batteries dont fit with the gold colored kick ring on so it lacks on aesthetics a bit.
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Patriot RDA!
Sorry my picture doesnt show the logo, was a quick pick at the vape store.
I bought this at VapeRoyalty.com with my purchase of the nemesis.
I probably paid more than I should have, but it came in 2 days with my first mech. So I don't really care.
Patriot Atomizer Clone RDA
I don't know who made this which worried me seeing it listed more than an igo-W (which is a great little RDA)
Also, no reviews yet on their site.
So I said what the hell, I'll guinea pig it.
Straight out of the box I noticed a few things:
-God these air holes are tiny!
-Extremely hard to get the top cap off (more than usual)
-Still no manufacturer (since it wasnt branded on the box I doubt it was HCigar, rumored to be tobecco I think)

The laser etched logo isn't deep like my nemesis but it still looks beautiful.
When I place the air holes beside the coils, the logo doesn't line up perfectly with the nemesis logo.
For an OCD freak this is no bueno. But I will live with it.

I use cotton for my wicks, and it fits in the bottom (which is a decent size) well.
Once I drilled these out, (I dont remember the size sorry! But it whistles sometimes) it hit like a truck with my nemesis.
I blew out huge clouds of vapor with this while sub-ohming.
This RDA is also 22mm and sits flush on my mod.
For 25 dollars this thing feels like it is worth 100 dollars.


For some cons:
-Logo doesn't line up with the nemesis logo and the engraving on it isn't very deep
-Need to drill out air holes (no controllable airflow)
-The 2 negative posts are off put by a bit so the holes aren't 100% in the middle, they face away from the positive post ever so slightly which can cause an angle when tightening. (not really major, minor impact on rebuilding)

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Nemesis:
-I rate this at 5/5. For a clone this is perfect at the low price of 55 w/ shipping.

Patriot:
-I hate to give this a 4/5 but it deserves to lose a rating for the etching and the negative post minor problem.

Would I recommend both of these?:
-Yes, in a heartbeat!

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Vape Royalty review:
This website is well organized and their customer support team is on point. They will respond to questions hours after you ask them! Try finding another company that can do that.
Also, their shipping rates are pretty low. I recieved my product in 2 days. Placed an order on Monday morning and had it in my mail box on Wednesday!
This website is U.S based, If you want very high quality clones (10x better than fasttech) and rushed shipping - order from this amazing site!

Hope I helped. I know it's long but well worth the read
 

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101vape clone same as vaperoyalty? The price difference seems to good to be true lol. I still dnt know which of the 2 vendors to order from. Though im leaning towards 101vape & just try out both the Hcigar chi you & nemesis for the price of 1 from vaperoyalty. Any feedback would greatly be appreciate . I want to purchase asap ;).
 

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101vapes is a good site, and they could very well be the same as vaperoyalty.com
But to me the item I got from vape royalty was amazing in all aspects.
To quote someone talking about both companies...
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Quote Originally Posted by Enoch777 View Post
I've ordered from 101 vapes and trust them as well. Had issues with VapeRoyalty basically screwing up my funds and putting them on hold for 11 days, declining my purchase, and generally not helping at all. They just insisted I "wait for it to fix itself" or "contact your bank's customer service" even though I expressly mentioned I use a pre-paid card without any customer service. Eventually got my money back but I have reservations attempting to purchase through them again. Ugh -_-

Got my Hcigar Nemesis clone from 101 Vapes today. First glance, I love it. Came with a kick ring, and checking out the innards it appears to be a genuine Hcigar based on video I've seen of the switch. Nice machining, smooth threads, the button was a little crunchy until I adjusted the throw and it was quite nice, easily doable with just a pinky.

So I threw my UD IGO-T on top and.... wouldn't thread down. Got about 3/4th of the way and the threads just seized up. I immediately went to adjust the top pin further down and see if I couldn't get it to seat flush (or at least make a connection).

Same thing. 3/4th way in, nothing going on. Alright, so I guess my IGO-T doesn't thread down very far. I'll just adjust the pin all the way up and hope I can get a connection. I can live with a gap between my atty and mod, for now...

But no. It did not work. Nothing worked. I tried my Optimus S RDA and it was the same story. Protank 1? No dice. Protank 2? Nadda.

Alright. So now I have this very nice looking, well machined, and ready to vape mechanical but NOTHING I HAVE WILL FIT ON IT.

Please guys, is it just that none of my toppers will fit in the 510 connection, or is something else going on? I could use someone's advice because I have this twisted kanthal and a half dozen builds I would LOVE to try, been DYING to try and my first mechanical mod now appears to be defunct. Should I return it? Do I need to buy a new RDA?
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The "Hcigar" clone he got is having that problem. Yes he did have a problem with vape royalty (unlike me), and it seems like the quality control between the 2 vendors is different.
 
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