Vapers Win Big: House Committee Passes Amendment To Save E-Cigarettes

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    Any idea where I can substantiate this? The article and the different versions of it I found
    have no links and GovTrack.us has nothing to be found regarding the FDA or ecigs.
    I'd especially be interested in who voted for or against. At this point all I know is who sponsored this
    and that Debbie Wasserman Schultz opposed it

    TIA for any further info..
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    Im not sure, I just found this on G+. Its first I've heard of it.
     
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    Im not sure, I just found this on G+. Its first I've heard of it.
    So far I've seen it referred to two or three times here
    all leading to the same article..some more googling led me to another version of the same story.
    It's a good thing..so far..But I wanna know who is with us and who isn't.

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    So far I've seen it referred to two or three times here
    all leading to the same article..some more googling led me to another version of the same story.
    It's a good thing..so far..But I wanna know who is with us and who isn't.

    Regards
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    Well, Debbie Doberman Schultz, (head of the DNC), is one of our foes, but that's hardly surprising. Assume that most of her stooges are as well. "Progressive democrats" are the most intolerant people in the country.
     

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    Well, Debbie Doberman Shultz, (head of the DNC), is one of our foes, but that's hardly surprising. Assume that most of her stooges are as well. "Progressive democrats" are the most intolerant people in the country.
    Oh I know. Debbie hates me for several reasons.
    We have no arguments...just noticed the doberman.. :lol:

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    Oh I know. Debbie hates me for several reasons.
    We have no arguments...just noticed the doberman.. :lol:

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    :D

    I shouldn't have called her that. I've grievously insulted a noble breed of canine. They don't deserve to be likened to nefarious pieces of #^&* like Debbie. ;)
     

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    Can anyone translate this into normal-speak? I must be misreading something because all I'm getting is "none of the money raised by this bill can be used to treat any reference to that date as anything other than a reference to that date." Ermmm...what?
    look for the part around the middle that mentions 2007 in regards to ecigs
     

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    Any idea where I can substantiate this? The article and the different versions of it I found
    have no links and GovTrack.us has nothing to be found regarding the FDA or ecigs.
    I'd especially be interested in who voted for or against. At this point all I know is who sponsored this
    and that Debbie Wasserman Schultz opposed it

    TIA for any further info..
    Hazy
    I live near her. Ugh..
     

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    I commented on this in a vendor forum by mistake.
    Surely you guys don't actually think this is good news?

    "It also restricts sales to face-to-face interactions"

    OMG, this is what the republican governor did in Arkansas......we are now in a state where it is illegal to order ejuice online. (because according to them, vendors cannot really "verify" they are not selling to minors.

    There aren't any vaping shops w/in 100+ miiles of many people in ARKANSAS, since much of the state is quite rural.

    I can't believe they are putting that same crap into this bill as the republicans did in the AR state ones here.!!!!

    The reason for face to face sales is, in case you haven't figured it out, is to get the stuff lined up on shelves, in stores, so it can be taxed. :) It has nothing to do with ensuring there aren't sales to minors.......and anyway, there is no way for a vendor to PROVE they are not selling to minors online, and they know this, which is the excuse they are going to use.....again.

    sorry, but what you see as a win I see as some very seriously bad stuff.

    You have no idea how many people i know in AR who went back to smoking because they were unable to get anything but rot-gut ejuiice in their local tobacco superstore or convenience store.

    Can somebody provide a link to the actual voting records? I need to see that part.

    Face-to-face transactions, huh.
    Have fun with that. :)
     

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    I commented on this in a vendor forum by mistake.
    Surely you guys don't actually think this is good news?

    "It also restricts sales to face-to-face interactions"

    OMG, this is what the republican governor did in Arkansas......we are now in a state where it is illegal to order ejuice online. (because according to them, vendors cannot really "verify" they are not selling to minors.

    There aren't any vaping shops w/in 100+ miiles of many people in ARKANSAS, since much of the state is quite rural.

    I can't believe they are putting that same crap into this bill as the republicans did in the AR state ones here.!!!!

    The reason for face to face sales is, in case you haven't figured it out, is to get the stuff lined up on shelves, in stores, so it can be taxed. :) It has nothing to do with ensuring there aren't sales to minors.......and anyway, there is no way for a vendor to PROVE they are not selling to minors online, and they know this, which is the excuse they are going to use.....again.

    sorry, but what you see as a win I see as some very seriously bad stuff.

    You have no idea how many people i know in AR who went back to smoking because they were unable to get anything but rot-gut ejuiice in their local tobacco superstore or convenience store.

    Can somebody provide a link to the actual voting records? I need to see that part.

    Face-to-face transactions, huh.
    Have fun with that. :)

    Uh, $#*&. I'd also like to know the details of this: "Furthermore, the amendment restricts the advertising of vapor products."

    Looks more like the amendment is akin to begging the headsman to at least sharpen his blade before bringing it down on our collective necks.

    God, how I hate this unconstitutional BS. Eff the FDA.
     

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    I commented on this in a vendor forum by mistake.
    Surely you guys don't actually think this is good news?

    "It also restricts sales to face-to-face interactions"

    OMG, this is what the republican governor did in Arkansas......we are now in a state where it is illegal to order ejuice online. (because according to them, vendors cannot really "verify" they are not selling to minors.

    There aren't any vaping shops w/in 100+ miiles of many people in ARKANSAS, since much of the state is quite rural.

    I can't believe they are putting that same crap into this bill as the republicans did in the AR state ones here.!!!!

    The reason for face to face sales is, in case you haven't figured it out, is to get the stuff lined up on shelves, in stores, so it can be taxed. :) It has nothing to do with ensuring there aren't sales to minors.......and anyway, there is no way for a vendor to PROVE they are not selling to minors online, and they know this, which is the excuse they are going to use.....again.

    sorry, but what you see as a win I see as some very seriously bad stuff.

    You have no idea how many people i know in AR who went back to smoking because they were unable to get anything but rot-gut ejuiice in their local tobacco superstore or convenience store.

    Can somebody provide a link to the actual voting records? I need to see that part.

    Face-to-face transactions, huh.
    Have fun with that. :)
    "(2) This subsection shall not apply with respect to sales of vapor products conducted through—

    (A) mail-order; or

    (B) a vending machine or self-service display if, with respect to the facility in which such vending machine or display is located, the retailer of such products ensures that no person under 18 years of age would be present or be permitted to enter."
     
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