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Hey bishopheals, I was watching your video on twisting coils. Have some time on my hands and was thinking of twisting 32 gauge. I noticed in your video you said you use nickel because the silver will melt (you were using 34 and 36 I believe), would this be a concern with the 32?

I have some nickel I can use if needed to at least try the twisted coils.

For awhile I was using 32 gauge, then went to 30. Thought would be interesting to try the twisted 32 for a lower ohm but more response with the wires heating up from what I have read.
 

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So i decided to give it a go. Used the pen as you showed, only took a minute or two to twist (great idea by the way). I did use silver wire for the NR. 5 wraps around 3.5 mm silica wick, coming in at about 1.2 ohms (wish I would have done one more wrap at least.)

Working really well. Can't tell if my drags are shorter though, with the wire heating faster.

What are the benefits to twisting wires?

I just thought I would start playing around with different coils now. Found what works as far as devices for now so not to much else to do haha.
 

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The purpose to use 2 gauges is to stretch out length of resistance wire while keeping a lower resistance. this is beneficial for 1 battery mechanical mod. Now one may say they an do that with a 30 or 28 gauge. yes you can but you will sacrifice a lot of things. One is wire is going to be fatter in diameter which will result in a longer draw than a shorter draw. You will waste battery quicker because need to press power button and leave it press longer than if you were using 34 gauge wires or 36 gauge wires. So by merging and twisting 34 and 36 provides a lengthier low resistance while keeping the quickness to light it up in a nanosecond.
 

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So is there no real benefit to doing 32 and 32 gauge? Would be better if I picked up and did 34 and 36?

The purpose to use 2 gauges is to stretch out length of resistance wire while keeping a lower resistance. this is beneficial for 1 battery mechanical mod. Now one may say they an do that with a 30 or 28 gauge. yes you can but you will sacrifice a lot of things. One is wire is going to be fatter in diameter which will result in a longer draw than a shorter draw. You will waste battery quicker because need to press power button and leave it press longer than if you were using 34 gauge wires or 36 gauge wires. So by merging and twisting 34 and 36 provides a lengthier low resistance while keeping the quickness to light it up in a nanosecond.
 

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Just want to make sure I understand before doing another coil like this.

So twisting 32 together would not give me any benefit, and would hurt battery life. Would it give me a faster response time then the single coil 30 gauge I have been using?

But if I pick up 34 and 36 and twist those, then there will be a benefit of faster response time?

EDIT: And overall. What would be the best to use at this time. 1 coil of 30 gauge. 1 coil of 32 gauge. or (which I am seeing isn't) twisted coils of 32 gauge.

Just playing around right now with coils so experimenting and wanting to see what others find the best with what I have right now. Does look like I'll need to pick up the other gauges.

not only there is no benefit, but you sacrify battery without a reason Long
 

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Thanks imeo. Have one ody loaded up with twisted, prolly see how it goes. Think I'll let the other sit and maybe just do with the 30 or 32 without twisting.

Will have to look what 0.10mm is the kanthal gauges.

Thanks again.

twisted coil is nice because it keeps liquid between its twisted points Long. But its will not give you faster responce time that a 30 awg wire, just the opossite. Any twisted wire will give you less response time

The best for me is a twisted thin wire. As thin as possible. A 0,10mm twisted wire is the best as I see it
 

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if you try a 34 and 36 gauge twisted you will experience it differently as a single coil. No need to do them as I did them on vapetv. This is for more advance enthusiastic vapors. As I said in video if you never done this only don a single coil with 34 and 36 gauge. Which is equvelent to using a .16mm and .13mm
 

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Just checking to make sure I understand you. Take 1 wire of 34 and 1 of 36 and twist them together, right?

Wasn't sure what you meant by the first part of the paragraph that's why I want to double check.

Will be ordering some 34 and 36 next week if this is correct. Decided since no benefit with the twisted 32s rebuilt the ody and just using 30 gauge still.

Thanks

if you try a 34 and 36 gauge twisted you will experience it differently as a single coil. No need to do them as I did them on vapetv. This is for more advance enthusiastic vapors. As I said in video if you never done this only don a single coil with 34 and 36 gauge. Which is equvelent to using a .16mm and .13mm
 

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Bishop I was wondering if I could do a twisted coil, but with only 2 pieces of 32 kanthal. I usually get about 4 wraps and want to get more wire on my silica. If I usually cut my kanthal to about 1 3/4 for aprox 2.5ish ohms If I want to get a total of 2.5 with a double wire how would I do this? Cut my wire longer? and double it, Im a bit confused. I have a multimeter that is real skididsh and hard to get it to settle down and give me a constant reading. Will this work with 32 or should I get some 34 and try it. I use a kick and I set it at 8 watts. Thanks for any advise.
 

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Bishop I was wondering if I could do a twisted coil, but with only 2 pieces of 32 kanthal. I usually get about 4 wraps and want to get more wire on my silica. If I usually cut my kanthal to about 1 3/4 for aprox 2.5ish ohms If I want to get a total of 2.5 with a double wire how would I do this? Cut my wire longer? and double it, Im a bit confused. I have a multimeter that is real skididsh and hard to get it to settle down and give me a constant reading. Will this work with 32 or should I get some 34 and try it. I use a kick and I set it at 8 watts. Thanks for any advise.

when you double the same wire you cut the ohms in half (of course assuming same length)
 

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im confused, sorry, my mind is slow these days, so if I wanted to double the wire and twist, then I would have the make the length longer to get an ohm reading of 2.5-2.7 ? I guess it will be experimenting later. Kicks and batteries do better and use batteries more efficiently at around 2.7. I want to get that but be able to get more wraps. I tried 30 gauge but than I had too many wraps and the wire was thick and harder to work with. Oh well it experimentation time.:)
 

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im confused, sorry, my mind is slow these days, so if I wanted to double the wire and twist, then I would have the make the length longer to get an ohm reading of 2.5-2.7 ? I guess it will be experimenting later. Kicks and batteries do better and use batteries more efficiently at around 2.7. I want to get that but be able to get more wraps. I tried 30 gauge but than I had too many wraps and the wire was thick and harder to work with. Oh well it experimentation time.:)


Take some Tylenol and relax try not to over think this to much. You can do an experiment. take two pieces of resistance wire 32 gauge and twist them. then tie a none resistance wire to it. Now use a multi meter and measure say 1. ohms. Bend the resistance wire. and leave it on side. then take another resistance wire 32 gauge tie a non resistance wire then use multi meter and measure 1 ohms and bend the resistance wire. Now take 32 gauge and 34 gauge twist those two resistance wires attach a non resistance wire take multi meter and measure 1ohms. you will see the differences in length yest achieving same ohms. More length more wraps.

The best I enjoy is 34 and 36 gauge twist.
 
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