Vaping 0mg vs cigarettes?

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Recent studies report that using an e-cigarette (with or without nicotine) is less harmful than smoking.

Think about it. Smoking is the combustion (burning) of dried tobacco leaves. It is this smoke, along with all the chemicals and poisons that are created from that smoke, which causes cancer, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), chronic bronchitis, and emphysema. Vaping has no combustion, does not make smoke, it makes vapor, so does not lead to the above medical disorders.

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I am not that kind a smoker! I just want to buy that 0mg nicotine beacuse of smoke
I'm confused. What kind of smoker are you? And are you aware that e-cigarettes do NOT make SMOKE?

If you are not a smoker, why do you want to vape? Although considered to be healthier than smoking, vaping may not be 100% safe.
 

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I'm confused. What kind of smoker are you? And are you aware that e-cigarettes do NOT make SMOKE?

If you are not a smoker, why do you want to vape? Although considered to be healthier than smoking, vaping may not be 100% safe.
He is a smoker of not cigarettes was my understanding, wants to simulate his hobby. Whatever it is vaping is safer the one I'm thinking has 400+ chemicals and cancer causing ones as all plant materials do unless you vape them. If you want to use it to quit your hobby I'd say go for it if your not planning on quitting or cutting back I'd say don't.
 
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Err, say what now? Can you clarify?
Smoke is the same thing as vapor. But Smoke usually refers to the vapor produced from burning something but thats not the only definition. Vapor on the other hand has no definition that includes combustion. A smoke created without combustion is still smoke but it's best defined as a vapor. I was confused when I started, people kept saying it's vapor not smoke. I can see it and it's not a liquid or a solid so it must be a visible gas form (vapor) and smoke is a visible gas form... complicated me. If they would have said it's a smoke without combustion I would have understood much faster but the word smoke is negatively associated with smoking so I can see the reasoning from a marketing standpoint.
 

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Smoke is solid particles dissolved in a gas (air), this is usually a by product of incomplete combustion as complete combustion yields carbon dioxide and water and possibly some nitrogen containing gasses. Vapor is a liquid dissolved in a gas (air), other examples of vapor that aren't related to vaping include mist, fog, clouds, etc.

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I never smoke 1 box of cigarettes in one day! I smoke like 6 in 1 day for 4 months and I just want to find something without chemicals
For 6 a day probably get 3-6mg nicotine and slowly decrease it every month or so till you get to the 0mg desired. The nicotine isn't as big of a concern as the other chemicals so as others stated you probably don't want to start with 0mg as it won't help with nicotine withdraw at all and the craving won't go away for awhile.
 

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Smoke is the same thing as vapor. But Smoke usually refers to the vapor produced from burning something but thats not the only definition. Vapor on the other hand has no definition that includes combustion. A smoke created without combustion is still smoke but it's best defined as a vapor.
If you want to get technical...

"In physics, a vapor is a substance in the gas phase at a temperature lower than its critical temperature, which means that the vapor can be condensed into a liquid by increasing the pressure on it without decreasing the temperature."

"Smoke is a collection of liquid and solid particulates and gases emitted when a material undergoes combustion or pyrolysis, together with the quantity of air that is entrained or otherwise mixed into the mass."

So, vapor is "a substance in the gas phase," and smoke is "a collection of liquid and solid particulates." I think that pretty definitively means that smoke is not vapor, and vapor is not smoke. Additionally, what our devices produce is not technically a vapor either, but an aerosol:

"An aerosol is a colloid of fine solid particles or liquid droplets, in air or another gas. [...] Examples of aerosols are fog, steam, haze, and smoke."

So smoke is an aerosol. And steam is also an aerosol. But so what? Squares are polygons, and triangles are also polygons, but I don't think you'll find anyone arguing that that means they are the same thing. Squares are very much not the same as triangles, and vice versa. Likewise, just because they're both aerosols, does not mean that smoke and steam are the same thing. Our devices do produce an aerosol, and smoke is also an aerosol, but what's produced by our devices is more akin to steam than it is to smoke.

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Smoke is solid particles dissolved in a gas (air), this is usually a by product of incomplete combustion as complete combustion yields carbon dioxide and water and possibly some nitrogen containing gasses. Vapor is a liquid dissolved in a gas (air), other examples of vapor that aren't related to vaping include mist, fog, clouds, etc.

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That's a definition not the only one though. Better defines what we call smoke and vapor then I could though. By definition both can be from a solid or liquid though so I don't know where you got that from... AVA most likely.
 
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