Vaping 1.5years, disappointed ?! opinions wanted

[ozsa]

Hey guys, I've been vaping for about 1.5years now, but I'm getting disappointed as the time passes... I remember starting out with the standard ego-c model, the vape felt insanely good, I loved mint, just huge hit and massive good feelings, especially in my lung, but as the time passed it got worse and worse, I felt like there's no hit anymore, taste isnt that good, so I tried buying alot of liquids, like 50-60types. Currently I have Dekang silver/gold (sadly I have about 100x10ml of this) which was good with the ego-c but with ego CC clearomizer it was leaking always, guess the atomizer cannot burn it fast enough.

So I bought this vision eternity just a few days ago, tried out with 5-6dekang flavors, but its weak...I mean vape is coming out, alot, but the taste is so weak, I barely feel it, also its not enough power in it, I dont feel alot of vape in my lung when I smoke it, just barely. Don't know what to do really.. I cannot use ego CC 2.4ml anymore because I don't have liquid for it, the one I used was from china (very cheap) but 2 months delivery.

Please tell me if this vision eternity is bad or suggest me some kind of electronic ciggy that has a strong taste, loads of vape, big hit and if possible without leaking (leakage stressed me alot). I dont care about anything else just these. If you took the time to read all this, thank you!

 

[Papajohns]

Have you ever tried a tank? Like the protanks or the vivi nova or the aspire nautilus? The Ego CC is a very basic tank, I cant imagine it tastes very good. I've been using protanks since I started, the quality and amount of vapor is quite nice.

 

[Completely Average]

Big clouds and lots of flavor rarely go together. To get big clouds you need a high VG mix, but VG reduces the flavor. Most artisan eliquid producers use an 80/20 PG/VG mix to preserve their flavors. Also VG reduces the throat hit, so you end up with lots of clouds but a smoother throat hit with less flavor.

Also, some flavors produce their own throat hits. Menthol, mints, and cinnamon especially provide their own little throat hit to the mix.

My honest suggestion to you would be to get into DIY liquids. It's easy, cheap, and you can control the flavors yourself. Flavor not strong enough, add some more. Also you can play around with PG/VG mixtures until you find just the right balance for you.

 

[diggyb]

do you know the pg/vg ratio of the liquid you're using?

From what I've read, most Dekang is 100% PG...which means you shouldn't be getting a lot of vapor and should be getting some decent throat hit. Sounds like you're experiencing the opposite.

higher PG and Nicotine% for throat hit/flavor. Higher VG for vapor production.

 

[Baditude]

There's a very good reason why many people move on from eGo's to APV's (mods) and other juice attachments than a simple clearomizer. For a more satisfying vape, get better gear. You need a mod.

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder

For juice attachments, consider trying either a cartotank or a rebuildable atomizer (RBA). The cartotank only has a slightly higher learning curve from a clearomizer. The RBA will have a significantly higher learning curve requiring some moderate homework in learning the basics of Ohm's Law, battery chemistry types, using a digital multimeter, and how to wrap your own coils with Kanthal wire.

Is it a Carto, a Tank, or What?

Cartotank Setup Guide

Information Resources for Your First RBA

 

[ozsa]

Have you ever tried a tank? Like the protanks or the vivi nova or the aspire nautilus? The Ego CC is a very basic tank, I cant imagine it tastes very good. I've been using protanks since I started, the quality and amount of vapor is quite nice.

I didnt try out those yet, will google them thanks

Completely Average

Big clouds and lots of flavor rarely go together. To get big clouds you need a high VG mix, but VG reduces the flavor. Most artisan eliquid producers use an 80/20 PG/VG mix to preserve their flavors. Also VG reduces the throat hit, so you end up with lots of clouds but a smoother throat hit with less flavor.

Also, some flavors produce their own throat hits. Menthol, mints, and cinnamon especially provide their own little throat hit to the mix.

My honest suggestion to you would be to get into DIY liquids. It's easy, cheap, and you can control the flavors yourself. Flavor not strong enough, add some more. Also you can play around with PG/VG mixtures until you find just the right balance for you.​

I'm in europe, any idea where can I buy stuff to make my own liquid, also what components I need ?

diggyb

do you know the pg/vg ratio of the liquid you're using?

From what I've read, most Dekang is 100% PG...which means you shouldn't be getting a lot of vapor and should be getting some decent throat hit. Sounds like you're experiencing the opposite.

higher PG and Nicotine% for throat hit/flavor. Higher VG for vapor production.​

I didnt know whats in them, its written VG only, but this is on the dekang site
"Propylene Glycol 74%, Vanilla Extract 11%, Malic acid 3%, 3-Methylcyclopentane-1, 2-dione 2.5% ,Piperonal 1.5% ,Damascenone 0.2% ,Acetylpyrazine 1%,Rose oil 1.5% ,Rhodinol 0.3% ,Eleutheroside E1 5%"

So I guess its PG mostly, but I do have VG liquids too, feels like the power and taste are gone from all liquids when I use this Vision eternity, I tried with and without tank too...something feels wrong here, could the liquids expire ? I bought them about a year ago and they didnt feel this way in the ego CC (but they leak after a few minutes).

I continue to check with every flavour I have, will try something that should be very strong, its 16ml dekang chocolate, this used to have very strong taste and hit...lets see

Thanks for these ultrafast replies!

 

[tj99959]

I have no idea what's available in Romania, but I bet you can do a hell of a lot better than an eGo-C atomizer, or a Vision Eternity.
Even a Kanger ProTank is better than those. That Eternaty can even be dangerous if you don't know how to wrap a proper coil.

Step one IMO is to upgrade your power supply. What battery are you using now? The old eGo-C battery is regulated 3.4v. If you don't have enough power to start with, you don't have enough power to make any atomizer work properly.

Next question is how much money do you want to spend? There are lots of choices, some are expensive others are not.

 

[floridaBMW]

IMHO that's what's needed. As Bad just stated a more advanced setup may be order. More punch if u will out of ur juice. Maybe first buy a regulated battery mod (Provari/Lavatube ect...) and use ur clearomizers on top. U can pump more power to the coil which may be satisfying enough. Then if so inclined read read read and move onto rebuildables.

Ken


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[Free6413]

I agree about the eGo c batteries. They will only produce 3.4 volts. When you use a higher resistance coil, it is not enough to heat it up. This will result in little vapor and flavor. I don't know what is available in Romania as far as equipment goes but I have an eGo vv2 that I simply love. I have several tanks for it and they have different coil resistances. This allows me to experiment with flavor/vapor responses with different juices. I have my favorites in their own tanks because one May not respond well in one tank and is extremely good in another. I can adjust my voltage to get the most out of my tank and the flavor in it. This has come from trying different flavors under different conditions. I prefer the EVOD tanks because I have found they are more available locally and actually produce the draw resistance and vapor I desire. They don't leak nor flood. I have had so much success with them that I find it hard to find anything else because I look for it to perform like my EVOD. This is just my personal preference.

 

[Legolas]

Kayfun lite plus some 28-26 kanthal wire cotton and a vv vw or mech mod.. will make lots of juice taste way better. None of mine has ever leaked a drop of e-juice. There's lots of videos on how to coil and wick them. Very easy to do. Make sure you can buy them, I know europe is cracking the whip on vaping. Don't give up there's lots of great vaping to be had. I wish you luck

 

[ozsa]

I have no idea what's available in Romania, but I bet you can do a hell of a lot better than an eGo-C atomizer, or a Vision Eternity.
Even a Kanger ProTank is better than those. That Eternaty can even be dangerous if you don't know how to wrap a proper coil.

Step one IMO is to upgrade your power supply. What battery are you using now? The old eGo-C battery is regulated 3.4v. If you don't have enough power to start with, you don't have enough power to make any atomizer work properly.

Next question is how much money do you want to spend? There are lots of choices, some are expensive others are not.

I see we have Kanger ProTank 2 (1 is out of stock atm). I have 650/1000mah ego-c which I measured is about 3.4-5v, and I have alot of 1100mah chinese ego-c, which measured is 3.8-4v, but I could make a powerful battery (for home use, 10A even if I want). Well, I dont wanna spend thousands of dollars, I'm not rich, I just want something that is strong and reliable. Please tell me in your opinion whats the best things you ever vaped.

Ego vv2 and kayfun lite, checking them now.

BTW the chocolate flavor, its the same.. no hit, no flavor,no power.. this is not supposed to happen, its just almost tasteless..I'm gonna make a new coil soon.

 

[diggyb]

I'll trade you 236ml liquid for some Sibiu! I miss that stuff

 

[ozsa]

I'll trade you 236ml liquid for some Sibiu! I miss that stuff

you mean the dekang silver? what liquid you have ? I like the silver's taste, I just cant make it work with this vision eternity and in ego CC its leaking I'm gonna try another coil now. I do understand that the taste should be worse a bit then most ecigs, but I cant believe all the reviews on the net actually said this is OK, coz it cant be ok what I'm experiencing, I know after a year++ of vaping you get used to it and you need stronger stuff, but not this much, the ego CC barely produces vape and has stronger taste.

 

[diggyb]

I was kidding about the pate sibiu!

Your dekang juice should be giving more than enough flavor and throat hit. you need better gear

Protank 2 is a good tank. You should get a vv/vw batter like innokin itaste mvp v2...it cost probably 250 lei

 

[Skruf]

I don't think eGo batteries last forever. When was the last time you changed your batteries? I know what you are going through. I got off vaping for a while (too long) due to my equipment just not working well. I agree maybe it's time to move up to a bigger mod and maybe a tank. I've been pretty happy with my Kanger Protank II mini I bought at gotvapes recently. I've been using it mostly on a 5volt GLV2 mod, but it works ok on a eGo C twist.

 

[tj99959]

I see we have Kanger ProTank 2 (1 is out of stock atm). I have 650/1000mah ego-c which I measured is about 3.4-5v, and I have alot of 1100mah chinese ego-c, which measured is 3.8-4v, but I could make a powerful battery (for home use, 10A even if I want). Well, I dont wanna spend thousands of dollars, I'm not rich, I just want something that is strong and reliable. Please tell me in your opinion whats the best things you ever vaped.

Ego vv2 and kayfun lite, checking them now.

BTW the chocolate flavor, its the same.. no hit, no flavor,no power.. this is not supposed to happen, its just almost tasteless..I'm gonna make a new coil soon.

I have all kinds of fancy stuff, but "old & reliable" is always near buy.
This tank
ElectronicStix.Com · Standard J-Tank (3.3ml)
This cartomizer, standard resistance at 4.2-4.5 volts
ElectronicStix.Com · Single Boge 510 Blank Laser Punched Cartomizer For Tank Systems
You should be able to find both tanks & cartos sold locally.

Dark or sweet flavors (like chocolate) will plug a carto up pretty quick. Stick to light or clear flavors and a carto will last quite a while.
My carto tanks are almost three years old, and I get about a months use out of a carto.

 

[ozsa]

I have all kinds of fancy stuff, but "old & reliable" is always near buy.
This tank
ElectronicStix.Com · Standard J-Tank (3.3ml)
This cartomizer, standard resistance at 4.2-4.5 volts
ElectronicStix.Com · Single Boge 510 Blank Laser Punched Cartomizer For Tank Systems
You should be able to find both tanks & cartos sold locally.

Dark or sweet flavors (like chocolate) will plug a carto up pretty quick. Stick to light or clear flavors and a carto will last quite a while.
My carto tanks are almost three years old, and I get about a months use out of a carto.

The single boge 510 has the atomizer in it ? Coz I dont really get it.

I checked this site, shipping is only 14$ thats cheap, what battery you suggest for this ? name one or two please.
thanks alot!

 

[Legolas]

Well, I dont wanna spend thousands of dollars, I'm not rich, I just want something that is strong and reliable. Please tell me in your opinion whats the best things you ever vaped.

Ego vv2 and kayfun lite, checking them now.

BTW the chocolate flavor, its the same.. no hit, no flavor,no power.. this is not supposed to happen, its just almost tasteless..I'm gonna make a new coil soon.

Kayfun lite plus clones are fairly cheap 10-15 bucks more then a protank. In the long run they will save money by not having to purchase attys

 

[leighqt]

innokin mpv , but PG and VG and flavours can be purchased from most reputable suppliers

 

[ozsa]

I checked local sites, well with batteries I really have no option, the only thing they sell is Innokin itaste VV V3.0 for about 50$ but thats an 800mah battery, I rather buy from US, it just takes forever and shippment + 25% tax is sad.. but its about the same price coz here everything is overpriced compared to US.

The kayfun 3.1 ehpro clone is 75$ and Kayfun Lite Plus EhPro clone is 70$. Are these fully rebuildable ? I mean the coil part.

I even found at almost the same price, Cartomizer Boge 510D XL but I can't find any tanks for it. Or can you just fill the cartomizer and put a drip tip on it and be done ?

I'm horrified to go back to smoking but if I cant resolve these problems I just might..just kills my nerves..

BTW, I dont know if its possible to link here, if not remove it. These are the 2 sites where I can buy from, you dont need to know the language just check the names, maybe you can see something that I can't, if you spot anything that I search, drop a reply.

vapez.ro/3-vaporizatoare

tigaraego.com/35-atomizoare-cartomizoare