vaping 60mg help- and also 'hello' from the newbie

[joemazda585]

hello all-

i have been smoke free for about 8 months now, and very satisfied with my eGo-T. i started with the 7-eleven e-cig (which vaped good but was weak) and progressed to the standard 510. it was still too weak in the vapor production so i was advised to try the tank system.

my problem is i had smoked Black-n' mild (mini cigar) for about 12 years, inhaling, and the usual mixes arent strong enough for me. i have been researching all types of info since i started e-cigs and feel pretty confident with my knowledge. i have been using 48mg juice the past 4 or 5 months, and it does give me a slight buzz sometimes. i just received my latest order of juice, in which i also ordered a 60mg unflavored mixing juice. i am planning to use this 50/50 with my 48mg liquid, but straight when i want a stronger mix.

i know that 60mg mix is lethal if i drink a mL, but would vaping it straight be harmful? realistically thinking- 36mg gives me no feeling, 48 works sometimes, so 60mg should work good but still be safe right?

-Joe

revision a day after posting this:
i have determined that my under-performing e-cig is the reason for needing 54mg. it is not delivering enough vapor to give me the same "buzz" as a high voltage e-cig. this thread now only requests info on recommended e-cigs.

 

[db13berry]

Are you serious?

 

[dormouse]

What do you mean feeling? If you mean the throat hit then stop using so much VG? VG dulls throat hit. Try 80pg/20vg or something.

If you mean a buzz, ecigs don't really give a buzz like cigarettes. The buzz of cigarettes is carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide - you are depriving yourself of air when you smoke cigarettes and that gives a buzz. Nicotine overuse leads more to a dizzy feeling w/ possible headache or rapid/irregular heartbeat. You like the feeling of too much nicotine?

yes it can be dangerous - it can mess with your blood pressure and your heartbeat. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor

 

[joemazda585]

yes, 100 percent serious. and i have been using 48mg for months, along with a friend of mine. he is perfectly happy with 48mg. i am halfway satisfied with it.

the vapor production is fine, and i could care less about the flavor. i am interested in the buzz feeling. i understand it is different than a regular cig, but i only feel it about 30-40% of the time when i am vaping.

the reason for this question is that sometimes i still crave a cigar, and maybe once a month i have a regular b&m. i hope to competely eliminate this craving.

 

[dormouse]

What is your hardware? And what ohms are you vaping on it?

Ego-T standard or LR? Have you tried Boge LR cartomizers?


And you are after a body feeling, not TH?

 

[lolady]

Go to Gourmet Vapor and get a sample bottle of 100% Latakia. They only go up to 36 but just give it a shot anyway, then come back and tell how it went.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

60mg nic juice is meant for mixing and not really for vaping. You're already using 48mg and that's extremely high, so I wouldn't vape 60mg straight. It could be harmful at that level.

If you're using an eGo tank, then it might not be powerful enough to satisfy you. You might want to check out buying a mod that's possibly 5 or 6V.

Just FYI, 50/50 juices don't do well with the eGo tanks. Most people find that 70PG/30VG mixes work the best.

 

[joemazda585]

ego-t standard. i am very happy with it, and i believe it is the 3.7v. it is not a LR atty.

yes the body feeling. not the TH.

basically, i have never mixed my own juice and want to be sure that i will still be around to post tomorrow. logically it is safe, but i am wondering if any DIY-ers can confirm that it is not dangerous.

regarding the 50/50, i stated it wrong. i meant 50% of the 48mg juice, and 50% of the 60mg unfalvored

 

[brian1g]

Get a 6v mod and decrease your nic to 36mg/ml imo.

You will more than likely get the same amount of nicotine in your system this way while also giving you a little more room for error without hurting / killing yourself.

 

[db13berry]

If you have to come to a forum to ask, then you probably shouldn't do it. What ya think?

 

[joemazda585]

if i have to come to a furom to ask, and every single other post i have read says that the OP gets sick from 24mg, and i have been using 48mg for months, then i think it is justified for me to ask.

for the voltage mods, do they use the same attys? i have only had this ego tank for about a month, will i be buying a whole new battery and atomizer and carts?

 

[WomanOfHeart]

The eGo isn't a 3.7V. It usually meters out at around 3.4V underload.

I second what brian1g said; consider getting a 5 or 6V mod and decreasing your nic level. I think you'll find more satisfaction there and it will definitely be much safer for you.

As a DIY'er, I would never recommend vaping anything higher than 48mg and certainly not 60mg.

 

[joemazda585]

thanks, good info. any links or is that against forum rules?

 

[dormouse]

Ego is not 3.7v. I believe it's more like 3.4v.

For different voltage you would need a different ecig. I would not even recommend 5-6v, just variable voltage that goes up past 3.7 to 5.

But if you are using a standard resistance atomizer on Ego, you can get more heat and hit with your existing batteries if you used low resistance atomizers (or low resistance cartomizers instead of atty+tank) (though LR will use your battery charge up faster)

Don't they have LR tank attys now? And many people like Boge LR cartomizers on Ego.

And you can increase your hit and possibly even your nicotine absorption by using less VG in your juice.

Also - do you clean your atomizers? If you don't clean your atomizers then performance will definitely degrade over time, lessening the size and strength of your hits.

 

[jj2]

60mg nic juice is meant for mixing and not really for vaping. You're already using 48mg and that's extremely high, so I wouldn't vape 60mg straight. It could be harmful at that level.

If you're using an eGo tank, then it might not be powerful enough to satisfy you. You might want to check out buying a mod that's possibly 5 or 6V.

Just FYI, 50/50 juices don't do well with the eGo tanks. Most people find that 70PG/30VG mixes work the best.

What she said!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SuziesMom]

You're prolly not going to die from vaping it straight. It's like drinking straight grain alcohol- stupid, inadvisable, but the odds are you'll live to tell about it unless you do something completely stupid in the process. One hit will probably make your hair tingle- just go slow and try not to off yourself in the process.

But seriously, you're doing something wrong- no one needs to vape at 48mg let alone 60. I think you got some bad juice somewhere along the line because I'm a pretty hardcore nic addict and I've never needed to go higher than about 40mg (special mix to be used while drinking). I mean I can wear a patch, while chewing nicorette, and still smoke a cigarette. Anything more than a properly mixed 36mg and I'm woozy.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

thanks, good info. any links or is that against forum rules?

Links are not against the rules....Try a variable voltage mod like a Buzz Pro from notcigs.com......you can use the same attys you already have, just dial your voltage.....hits like a horse......
good luck and try the buzz with your 48ml nic and see if that doesn't do it for you....
let us know.

 

[NicLiq]

For someone who was inhaling cigars, which can have incredibly high nicotine amounts, this is not that far-fetched.

I agree with WomanOfHeart 100%, you need to go higher voltage. 24 mg at 5 or 6v would help you a lot more than what you're doing now.

 

[wv2win]

Even I wouldn't recommend vaping 60mg strength. Using that little 3.7 volt battery on the eGo (3.2 volt under load) is part of your problem, IMO. Get a good 5 volt or variable volt PV and you will get much warmer vapor which is a big part of the throat hit equation.

 

[joemazda585]

cool. i just dont want to browse random sites and be ripped off by an unreputable vendor. any more links? hopefully more direct because although i have researched the health and nicotene a lot i dont know exactly what works with what.

this is probably my 5th or 6th bottle of premixed juice, so i dont think it is the mixture. i normally buy from MFS or TW. also, regarding the strength, i would smoke 2-3 a day of b&m and i only know very few other people who can finish one in one sitting. i assume that is why i use a 48mg e-juice

also, i dont care about TH or flavor or how it looks exhaling, i am only concerned with the nic feeling