Vaping and breathalyzers

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CMD-Ky

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I was taught to always refuse a breathalyzer anyways, even if you're dead sober, by lawyers. Knowing that this is even possibly a concern only reinforces that logic.

I think that you should examine that advice carefully before using it.
 

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I'd sure make it cost them.

It would cost you a hell of a lot more. You might win on principle but I can guarantee pretty much this is one where you might be like (later) "I really wish I had just done it."

I doubt it will happen anyway. Even the worst of cops are fairly good at spotting drunk/not drunk. It's not HARD.

If you don't drink and drive you aren't going to get breathalyzed. If you do, have at it I guess, but I wish you all the luck in the world with that.

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If you don't drink and drive you aren't going to get breathalyzed. If you do, have at it I guess, but I wish you all the luck in the world with that.

I love a good "pretext stop". Sorry, sir, I observed you weaving in and out of your lane. Please step out of the car.
 

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I don't know I call myself a pragmatist with idealistic tendencies.

I don't have sympathy for drunk driving but I used to do it all the time in my youth. Thing is, at that time I might not have CARED much, I mean... .You could smoke in jail then. Jails are survivable. In some ways I might prefer them to locked psych units.

Since my Creator apparently got that, I got to enjoy my first locked psych unit in 1999 the year I stopped drinking. The opiate thing (which actually STARTED thanks to my stupid MI, I was on Ultram for 2 years for tx resistant depression and it worked GREAT. Until it didn't. Then, it really sucked.) My advice is if you take something and you think, "Oh wow, I feel AMAZING I am going to take this pill for the rest of my life!" you should probably stop immediately.

But back then there was all this "Ultram is totally non addictive" nonsense. I hate the drug companies sometimes. I could have saved myself infinitudes of trouble. But I did not know, the doc did not know, we were desperate, there ARE small studies about opiates treating treatment resistant depression.

There is also this annoying thing called "tolerance." You can't get around it.

But my point was I wouldn't have LOVED jail but I would have managed. I bet it is JUST like middle school.

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I am a girl. It would be exactly like middle school without boys.

Hmm. I am rethinking my stance. Jail might cause me to suicide. Nope. I would become QUEEN of the jail (which based on a few jail shows I have seen including an Aussie one which was the BEST but I forgot its name. It was Australian so when anything bad happened they were all like, "Right. Let's clean up this dead person mess and get on with it, eh?" Broad== something.)

Being the jail queen seems like a TON of work. Plus no vaping, snus, etc.

I had a lot more energy in my youth though, so queen might have been just FINE.
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It would cost you a hell of a lot more. You might win on principle but I can guarantee pretty much this is one where you might be like (later) "I really wish I had just done it."

I doubt it will happen anyway. Even the worst of cops are fairly good at spotting drunk/not drunk. It's not HARD.

If you don't drink and drive you aren't going to get breathalyzed. If you do, have at it I guess, but I wish you all the luck in the world with that.

Anna
Don't you guys have random breath tests? We do. Not going to stop me vaping though - I've had a random breath test after vaping my way 80kms to work and got a zero reading.
 

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I was taught to always refuse a breathalyzer anyways, even if you're dead sober, by lawyers. Knowing that this is even possibly a concern only reinforces that logic.

This is a state-by-state issue. In some states you might get your license revoked for refusing a sobriety test. So know your state law on this matter before you refuse a test. You may find yourself without a license to drive.

And take it from someone who lost their license (for medical reasons),
it can ruin your life.
My life was totally ruined by my sudden inability to legally drive for 6 months. Happened to me 2 times. Ruined my life 2 times.
 

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I was taught to always refuse a breathalyzer anyways, even if you're dead sober, by lawyers. Knowing that this is even possibly a concern only reinforces that logic.

This is a state-by-state issue. In some states you might get your license revoked for refusing a sobriety test. So know your state law on this matter before you refuse a test. You may find yourself without a license to drive.

And take it from someone who lost their license (for medical reasons),
it can ruin your life. My life was totally ruined by my sudden inability to legally drive for 6 months. Happened to me 2 times. Ruined my life 2 times.

I had a customer, long ago in NC, that told me that he always kept a can of beer under his front seat. His plan was that if he was drinking, and got pulled over, he was gonna get out of the car and immediately down the whole beer in front of the cop. Then tell them that he only did it because he was nervous. He believed that he could then argue that he only drank that one beer, and because he drank it that fast, that's why he'd fail a breathalyzer. I have no idea if he ever got the opportunity to test his theory.

I'd like to know how many Darwin awards that guy has won in his life. I bet he has enough awards to fill a closet, at least.
 
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