Vaping and eTg testing..

[lopenator]

Hey everyone,

As the title says, I'm curious if anyone in here vapes juice with alcohol in it and takes etg tests. I read all the past threads on this all ready, but I am a little nervous about taking my tests, so I would just like to see if anybody has any different information on the topic.

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[lopenator]

So I got a negative result.

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[Asbestos4004]

I don't know.... Combine alcohol based flavorings in eliquid with some of these silly 8 coil tanks they're making....You might get hammered!

 

[Eskie]

The likelihood that the small amount of alcohol found in some flavorings, most of which evaporates off once you open the bottle anyway, is like really close to zero. If you're concerned buy a kit and test it yourself to see if there's any evidence of it being present.

 

[lopenator]

I do sub ohm. When a positive etg test will put you back in prison, I'm sure even sub Ohming will cause you to think twice.

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[Eskie]

And I imagine they don't allow vape gear in prison. I'm sure getting that negative test back yourself must reassuring. Good luck and hope it all works out for you.

 

[lopenator]

They use it in the flavor extracts

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[BlueMoods]

Honestly, if the tiny bit of alcohol that might be in premade juice is going to make that test show positive, so is mouthwash, food flavoring extracts that are in uncooked foods and, liquid cough or cold medicine. All of them have more alcohol than e-liquid, unless you mix your own and add a lot of alcohol, in which case, that's on you.

 

[lopenator]

Actually, stuff like mouthwash and liquid cold remedies will result in a positive test, and someone who is required to provide a test sample has likely already told that's a no and won't be accepted to explain a positive result.

However, the teeny tiny amount that might be mixed in from a few percent flavoring and has been exposed to air so that alcohol should be evaporated by the time you vape it makes me think it's really, really unlikely that will show up. It's a bit like cooking with a little wine for the sauce. After heating and mixing, the alcohol is gone before it hits the table.

But when your personal freedom is at risk, erring on the conservative side can really beat the alternative.

This is correct, I have not used mouth wash in over a year. Nor have I ate poppy seed bagels or taken any OTC meds. I don't even use hand sanitizer. Unfortunately I get tested once a week. So come next Monday I will let you guys know what happened. At this point I'm just waiting it out. If I don't reply it means it was a positive and I'll be sent away for a little.

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[Kprthevapr]

I'm not a alcoholic buddy. I'm on probation.

That's irrelevant to the thread.

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I'm glad you got negative test results. Life is hard enough without testing. Good luck

 

[lopenator]

Right now I ordered juice off vapor chef. They said on their website that they do not use alcohol, but I emailed them online and they said they do as a solvent. I thought it was funny they lied on their about us page.

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[lopenator]

Yeah, but I read eTg tests are super sensitive tests, that don't test how much you drank. You cannot tell how strong the levels of alcohol are, but only if the enzyme is present in your system. I got some pretty serious legal right now, and i definitely should have sought out and 100% alcohol free juice.

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[Kprthevapr]

Yeah, but I read eTg tests are super sensitive tests, that don't test how much you drank. You cannot tell how strong the levels of alcohol are, but only if the enzyme is present in your system. I got some pretty serious legal right now, and i definitely should have sought out and 100% alcohol free juice.

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I read that the test is sensitive to enzymes up to like 70 hours later.
But like the others have said, it should be evaporated, but don't count on it.
Did they say which alcohol they are using as a solvent? Are they cleaning with it or flavor extracts made with alcohol?

 

[Eskie]

Some flavors are extracted using alcohol. As to which? I just use a smell test. If I smell alcohol, I keep the juice bottle open and shake it a few times the first day. It's typically gone in several hours, at most maybe a day. If it's a commercially prepared retail juice, there's really no way to know.

 

[Beamslider]

Don't know but checking the web seems to say contact of any kind with alcohol can cause positive test. Even Hair spray, deodorant, and perfumes according to some sites.

Six Facts About Testing for Ethyl Glucuronide (EtG) - Cordant Solutions
Many common products purchased at grocery stores or pharmacies contain ethanol, which can cause a positive result in a drug test for EtG. These products include over-the-counter, alcohol-based cold and flu medications (e.g., NyQuil), food products (e.g., sauerkraut, balsamic vinegar, vanilla extract) and personal products such as mouthwashes. Additionally, certain popular drinks sold in stores (e.g., kombucha) may contain significant amounts of alcohol. It is also important to know that supposed non-alcoholic beverages may contain up to 1% ethanol by volume.

 

[lopenator]

So are you up chits creek if they even find a miniscule amount?

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yea lol they will put me back in jail

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[lopenator]

Yea I can buy etg tests online, but who knows if they are the same as the one my courts send out to the lab, you know? Its upsetting because all this stress just makes me say forget it and start smoking again, since I know I won't pop from a analog.

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[Eskie]

Yea I can buy etg tests online, but who knows if they are the same as the one my courts send out to the lab, you know? Its upsetting because all this stress just makes me say forget it and start smoking again, since I know I won't pop from a analog.

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You can probably pick one of those up at a local pharmacy. You'll end up with one of two findings. If you test positive and it's only vaping related (which I can't believe will really happen) or you'll test negative and then fret about it until the time to provide a sample happens. This is a legal (and sorta medical) issue and no one but your lawyer can give you legal advice.

Me? I'd buy a kit and see what it shows.

 

[Eskie]

Honestly, if the tiny bit of alcohol that might be in premade juice is going to make that test show positive, so is mouthwash, food flavoring extracts that are in uncooked foods and, liquid cough or cold medicine. All of them have more alcohol than e-liquid, unless you mix your own and add a lot of alcohol, in which case, that's on you.

Actually, stuff like mouthwash and liquid cold remedies will result in a positive test, and someone who is required to provide a test sample has likely already told that's a no and won't be accepted to explain a positive result.

However, the teeny tiny amount that might be mixed in from a few percent flavoring and has been exposed to air so that alcohol should be evaporated by the time you vape it makes me think it's really, really unlikely that will show up. It's a bit like cooking with a little wine for the sauce. After heating and mixing, the alcohol is gone before it hits the table.

But when your personal freedom is at risk, erring on the conservative side can really beat the alternative.

 

[Asbestos4004]

So I got a negative result.

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Maybe try subohming.....Now I want to see if you can get a positive from vaping.