Vaping in my company banned (I think because of me)

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jfalbanese

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I see you are a fan of Arlo Guthry's too.

"with circles & arrows & a paragraph on the back of each one...". LOL
i mean, i'm just sitting there on the bench. sitting there on the group w bench.cause you want to know if i'm moral enough to join the army, burn women kids houses and villages, after being a litterbug.:toast:
 
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Me, I would just go outside and take vape breaks with the smokers. Where I work, they banned smoking on the entire property. You cant even sit in your car and smoke if its on the property. So most people get in their cars and drive to the end of the property to smoke. Lucky for me I started vaping and dont have any of my managers on site and have an office all to myself so no one gives me any grief about it.

^^^^^^^^ THIS!!!!!! also take more bathroom breaks and vape away! ;)
 

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this is why i want to quit vaping as soon as possible. don't even want to get into another round of politics- vapers/non-vapers/nicotine Nazis/fox news. it was all so boring when i smoked. there will always someone looking to pee on our front lawns whatever we do. the only thing that really sucks, is the toys are so cool:mad:
 

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Vaping would not go over at my job. I stealth sometimes but that's it. For me, the job is worth the tradeoff. I love working where I do, doing what I'm doing. For me it's not worth kicking up a stink. I wear the patch, vape a little at lunch, cop a stealth in the john mid-afternoon sometimes, and hit it full and hard on the drive home. But it's what works for you that counts, you just have to figure out your priorities. (Believe me, I've had several jobs I'd quit because I couldn't vape so I get where you're at).
 

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Why do you think they call it work? If it was fun we'd be paying them to do it. :laugh: Half the time I hate what I do, the other half I tolerate it. We can smoke, vape or whatever there. That's about the only way I can stay sane there. Been there for 20 yrs and the only reason I stay is the money. I get paid very well for what I do and this allows me to own a nice house, buy toys, drive new vehicles, take vacations out of the country, etc. When I retire I'll be financially well off. That's why I put up with all the BS. You have to decide what's best for you.
 

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it takes money to be a vaper. leave it alone. head down, mouth shut. start your search for a better paying job

Ya I think this is the best choice. I didn't read the e-mail to list very well either it was specifically to me. So no stealth vaping etc.. apparently someone is just concerned with what I'm doing.
 

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Sorry to hear that. Just like life in general, companies are littered with ignorant reactionares who like their positions of power. They would rather "ban" than research, listen and learn. And they also could be anti-smoking zealots who are just too prejuidice to understand the difference.

it's not always the decision makers that write these rules, it's often because Sue in accounting doesn't like it and .....ed to enough people in private to have the handbook changed. i used to be able to bring my dog to work on fridays, and he'd sit in my office all day without barking or causing trouble, with full approval from the company's owners...then someone on the first floor started blaming their sneezing on the dog being in the building, which is like 15000 square feet, and i was told i couldn't bring the dog in anymore because of this. i accepted it, and thanked the owners for letting me bring the dog in for the previous year. some people will ..... about anything, and if you want to succeed in the corporate environment, you need to learn to pick your battles, and step on as few toes as possible.
 

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Geez, what happened to this place? It used to be you could feel safe posting a question, opinion, or even a rant against a minor or major problem and you knew the community would be supportive. Lately, I keep seeing "suck it up" "get over it" snarky posts in response. I hope ECF isn't changing to become like other forums where members hesitate to ask a question out of fear of being made fun of or barked at by other members. That would be a shame.

OP, sorry your workplace decided to ban e-cigs. Besides your choices of quitting or "sucking it up" and joining the smokers, you could also put together some info on vaping and give it to your manager or HR department. Sometimes people make decisions out of ignorance and their minds can be changed once they have more facts. Good luck!
 

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Geez, what happened to this place? It used to be you could feel safe posting a question, opinion, or even a rant against a minor or major problem and you knew the community would be supportive. Lately, I keep seeing "suck it up" "get over it" snarky posts in response. I hope ECF isn't changing to become like other forums where members hesitate to ask a question out of fear of being made fun of or barked at by other members. That would be a shame.

OP, sorry your workplace decided to ban e-cigs. Besides your choices of quitting or "sucking it up" and joining the smokers, you could also put together some info on vaping and give it to your manager or HR department. Sometimes people make decisions out of ignorance and their minds can be changed once they have more facts. Good luck!

I think some people were actually trying to be supportive. The OP phrased the question as should I stay where I get good pay but can't vape, or should I work somewhere I can vape but get paid less. Definitely a few snarky answers, but most people were just answering that question. I have empathy for working in a place you don't like, it really stinks. But with the economy the way it is, there are people who would be grateful for any job that pays well, regardless of vaping policy. Also, I think a lot of us are used to not vaping in the open at work, with or without a policy in place. To me, it's not something I would do anyway. I don't feel the need or feel that I have a right to vape openly in my office.

However, as I stated in an earlier post, I think the OP is very dissatisified with his job overall, and should definitely look for other work. And if he feels that changing the no vaping policy would help him be happier, then sure, he should give it a shot. But from what he says, it sounds like there are multiple problems with his job, and this is just one more.

To the OP, sorry if you didn't get the support or sympathy you were looking for. I feel for you, honestly.
 
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i'm new here, but i would prefer to voice my opinion on the thread topic in lieu of feigning sympathy, or encouraging someone to quit their job because they aren't allowed to vape inside their workplace anymore.

You gave three options--voice your opinion, feign sympathy, or encourage someone to quit their job. You completely missed the option of being supportive, saying you understand that it stinks when management changes their rules (such as allowing dogs to be brought to work), and then saying, "But to me, having a paying job is more important than whether I can vape in the breakroom or not or bring my dog into work or not. You have to decide which is more important to you."

Voicing your opinion doesn't have to mean making the OP feel stupid for asking the question in the first place. Or at least it didn't used to be how we voiced our opinions on here. For as long as I've been here (almost a year) we encouraged people to ask any question and not worry if it was stupid or had been asked a thousand times already. More members participate instead of lurking if they know they won't be made fun of for asking a question whose answer may seem obvious to most other members. I haven't read through your posts, but I'm pretty sure you've asked at least one question since you've been here that others could have made fun of if they wanted to. Hopefully, they didn't and gave you serious supportive answers. That's one of the main things I like about this place, but if a majority of the members would rather have a place where "stop .....ing" is the standard answer to a question about vaping regulations, then I'll find another board to frequent.
 

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I think some people were actually trying to be supportive. The OP phrased the question as should I stay where I get good pay but can't vape, or should I work somewhere I can vape but get paid less. Definitely a few snarky answers, but most people were just answering that question. I have empathy for working in a place you don't like, it really stinks. But with the economy the way it is, there are people who would be grateful for any job that pays well, regardless of vaping policy. Also, I think a lot of us are used to not vaping in the open at work, with or without a policy in place. To me, it's not something I would do anyway. I don't feel the need or feel that I have a right to vape openly in my office.

However, as I stated in an earlier post, I think the OP is very dissatisified with his job overall, and should definitely look for other work. And if he feels that changing the no vaping policy would help him be happier, then sure, he should give it a shot. But from what he says, it sounds like there are multiple problems with his job, and this is just one more.

To the OP, sorry if you didn't get the support or sympathy you were looking for. I feel for you, honestly.

I agree that a lot of the answers were serious and supportive. It was just a handful that felt snarky and would have made me, if I was the OP, hesitate to ask future questions. It's just something that I've noticed happening more and more lately and I think it would be a shame if the feeling of being a close community where all questions are welcome slipped away. (shrug) But that's just me. No one else commented on it, so maybe I'm the only one who feels that way.
 

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I agree that a lot of the answers were serious and supportive. It was just a handful that felt snarky and would have made me, if I was the OP, hesitate to ask future questions. It's just something that I've noticed happening more and more lately and I think it would be a shame if the feeling of being a close community where all questions are welcome slipped away. (shrug) But that's just me. No one else commented on it, so maybe I'm the only one who feels that way.
Maybe it's cause ecf is growing n some people just don't play nice
 

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My viewpoint has never changed, don't force the hand of the powers that be. <snip> I think taking the fact that originally there were no laws against where you vaped as a free ticket to do it everywhere hurt our cause a lot. I have little doubt that it has a lot to do with the bans being pushed through at the state levels right now.
While I agree with you on the virtues of discretion, I have to disagree with the notion that banning emerged due to 'vapers run amuck'. Prohibitionist actions against ecigs began shortly after they became available in the U.S. and there were likely fewer than a thousand vapers in the entire country (likely far fewer). Prohibitionist actions began because prohibitionists became aware of the product and that's what they do for a living.
 

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So now I have a decision to make, I can work for a local vape store and make less money or stick with a job that isn't entirely satisfying.
I'm curious as to why you feel these are your only two options? I hated every job I ever had before I got into this business. But it's still work and a lot of it at some times. It still get's stressful. It's good to have a career in a field you are passionate about. But you have many things to consider. How long has that vape shop been in business? How well do you know the owner? Can you afford to live on the wage you are being offered without a substantial change to your lifestyle? You should probably also consider what other things you have a passion for. If you like your current job other then the vaping policy, are there other opportunities in that field where the management is more open minded?
 

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I see you are a fan of Arlo Guthry's too.

"with circles & arrows & a paragraph on the back of each one...". LOL

hehe...local radio station used to play it every Thanksgiving for years.

I thought it more appropriate than, "I don't want a pickle. I just want to ride my motor...cy...cle."
 
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