it takes money to be a vaper. leave it alone. head down, mouth shut. start your search for a better paying job
i mean, i'm just sitting there on the bench. sitting there on the group w bench.cause you want to know if i'm moral enough to join the army, burn women kids houses and villages, after being a litterbug.@Crash Moses
I see you are a fan of Arlo Guthry's too.
"with circles & arrows & a paragraph on the back of each one...". LOL
Me, I would just go outside and take vape breaks with the smokers. Where I work, they banned smoking on the entire property. You cant even sit in your car and smoke if its on the property. So most people get in their cars and drive to the end of the property to smoke. Lucky for me I started vaping and dont have any of my managers on site and have an office all to myself so no one gives me any grief about it.
it takes money to be a vaper. leave it alone. head down, mouth shut. start your search for a better paying job
Sorry to hear that. Just like life in general, companies are littered with ignorant reactionares who like their positions of power. They would rather "ban" than research, listen and learn. And they also could be anti-smoking zealots who are just too prejuidice to understand the difference.
Geez, what happened to this place? It used to be you could feel safe posting a question, opinion, or even a rant against a minor or major problem and you knew the community would be supportive. Lately, I keep seeing "suck it up" "get over it" snarky posts in response. I hope ECF isn't changing to become like other forums where members hesitate to ask a question out of fear of being made fun of or barked at by other members. That would be a shame.
OP, sorry your workplace decided to ban e-cigs. Besides your choices of quitting or "sucking it up" and joining the smokers, you could also put together some info on vaping and give it to your manager or HR department. Sometimes people make decisions out of ignorance and their minds can be changed once they have more facts. Good luck!
i'm new here, but i would prefer to voice my opinion on the thread topic in lieu of feigning sympathy, or encouraging someone to quit their job because they aren't allowed to vape inside their workplace anymore.
I think some people were actually trying to be supportive. The OP phrased the question as should I stay where I get good pay but can't vape, or should I work somewhere I can vape but get paid less. Definitely a few snarky answers, but most people were just answering that question. I have empathy for working in a place you don't like, it really stinks. But with the economy the way it is, there are people who would be grateful for any job that pays well, regardless of vaping policy. Also, I think a lot of us are used to not vaping in the open at work, with or without a policy in place. To me, it's not something I would do anyway. I don't feel the need or feel that I have a right to vape openly in my office.
However, as I stated in an earlier post, I think the OP is very dissatisified with his job overall, and should definitely look for other work. And if he feels that changing the no vaping policy would help him be happier, then sure, he should give it a shot. But from what he says, it sounds like there are multiple problems with his job, and this is just one more.
To the OP, sorry if you didn't get the support or sympathy you were looking for. I feel for you, honestly.
Maybe it's cause ecf is growing n some people just don't play niceI agree that a lot of the answers were serious and supportive. It was just a handful that felt snarky and would have made me, if I was the OP, hesitate to ask future questions. It's just something that I've noticed happening more and more lately and I think it would be a shame if the feeling of being a close community where all questions are welcome slipped away. (shrug) But that's just me. No one else commented on it, so maybe I'm the only one who feels that way.
While I agree with you on the virtues of discretion, I have to disagree with the notion that banning emerged due to 'vapers run amuck'. Prohibitionist actions against ecigs began shortly after they became available in the U.S. and there were likely fewer than a thousand vapers in the entire country (likely far fewer). Prohibitionist actions began because prohibitionists became aware of the product and that's what they do for a living.My viewpoint has never changed, don't force the hand of the powers that be. <snip> I think taking the fact that originally there were no laws against where you vaped as a free ticket to do it everywhere hurt our cause a lot. I have little doubt that it has a lot to do with the bans being pushed through at the state levels right now.
I'm curious as to why you feel these are your only two options? I hated every job I ever had before I got into this business. But it's still work and a lot of it at some times. It still get's stressful. It's good to have a career in a field you are passionate about. But you have many things to consider. How long has that vape shop been in business? How well do you know the owner? Can you afford to live on the wage you are being offered without a substantial change to your lifestyle? You should probably also consider what other things you have a passion for. If you like your current job other then the vaping policy, are there other opportunities in that field where the management is more open minded?So now I have a decision to make, I can work for a local vape store and make less money or stick with a job that isn't entirely satisfying.
@Crash Moses
I see you are a fan of Arlo Guthry's too.
"with circles & arrows & a paragraph on the back of each one...". LOL
hehe...local radio station used to play it every Thanksgiving for years.
I thought it more appropriate than, "I don't want a pickle. I just want to ride my motor...cy...cle."