Hi, Just wondered people view point on vaping in pubs. Personally i think its a good idea as long as its not big cloudy mods. i run a pub poker league and most people are allowed to use them at the table. but i still think people are unsure as to the health issues and so it is still sometimes frowned upon.
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Second hand ecig vapor is not super well studied. What is known is that the vapor itself is 95% less damaging than smoke according to at least one national health body (the British national institute of health) and the vapor falls out of the air much much faster than smoke.
The anti vaping indoors legislation in basically every instance of it in the United States was rammed though by tobacco company lobbyists using very ethically questionable means rather than for any actual documented health reason.
Perception is perception though.
Update: it is apparently the royal college of physicians and not the British national institute of health. Sorry. Thumb fingered American here.
The anti vaping indoors legislation in basically every instance of it in the United States was rammed though by tobacco company lobbyists using very ethically questionable means rather than for any actual documented health reason.
Perception is perception though.
Update: it is apparently the royal college of physicians and not the British national institute of health. Sorry. Thumb fingered American here.
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The problem is always the vape jerk(s).
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Vaping in private rooms or contained areas posted, no problem, but allowing vape in the communal public areas may pose difficulties.
I smoked a pipe for more than 40 years. Even when smoking was permitted in pubs restaurants etc, I always went outside to smoke it as not everyone enjoys the smell of tobacco and pipes do produce a fair amount of smoke. I have continued to do this since I changed to vaping, even though I am well aware that vaping produces steam not smoke.
For around 10 years now in the UK we have had smoke free interior public spaces and though I grew up in the days when you could not see the top of the pub gantry in men's bars for the cloud reaching up to the ceiling I would not wish to return to those days.
Recently in Spain where many places permit vaping but not smoking, an English couple were at the next table to us. They chain vaped and used a particularly scented liquid which frankly we found unpleasant and which spoiled the taste of our meal.
In another establishment there was a young English man who boasted of his 200 watt device and who was a Cloud Chaser ... he became a people chaser very quickly. As has been stated there will always be yahoos and boundary pushers who spoil things for others if they get the chance.
I personally would not support any move to change UK legislation - sorry.
For around 10 years now in the UK we have had smoke free interior public spaces and though I grew up in the days when you could not see the top of the pub gantry in men's bars for the cloud reaching up to the ceiling I would not wish to return to those days.
Recently in Spain where many places permit vaping but not smoking, an English couple were at the next table to us. They chain vaped and used a particularly scented liquid which frankly we found unpleasant and which spoiled the taste of our meal.
In another establishment there was a young English man who boasted of his 200 watt device and who was a Cloud Chaser ... he became a people chaser very quickly. As has been stated there will always be yahoos and boundary pushers who spoil things for others if they get the chance.
I personally would not support any move to change UK legislation - sorry.
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I think if smoking is allowed in the pub then so should vaping. Likewise, if smoking is not allowed, vaping probably shouldn't be either.
I generally do not vape where smoking in not allowed.
I do not expect non smokers to understand why I need nicotine in my life and get why they don't want my nicotine in theirs. I know it's not a matter of putting them at risk per say, but their perception on the matter is not the same as mine nor will it ever be.
I do not expect non smokers to understand why I need nicotine in my life and get why they don't want my nicotine in theirs. I know it's not a matter of putting them at risk per say, but their perception on the matter is not the same as mine nor will it ever be.
I vape most everywhere I go. I am discreet about it. I can forego, but why? There is no sidestream vapor, as sidestream smoke from cigarettes is the demon that causes non-smokers to be endangered by indoor smoking. Nicotine is not a carcinogen. Theoretically, if I was vaping wide-open (without stealth discretion) in a closed room with a non-smoker for an hour, the intake of nicotine (that "evil" addictive substance) by the non-smoker would still be magnitudes less than if he/she ate a tomato. Vape on, but with courtesy to others.
I take my vape everywhere and usually have it in my hand. Overall, with very few if any exceptions, I observe the no smoking rule. If it is is a non-smoking area - I do not vape, Likewise, if it is a smoking area, I vape.
I will admit to an occasional vape in a public restroom where I did see a no-smoking sign but really it was only once or twice when I first started.
I have actually come across a few - No-smoking - no vaping signs.
I will admit to an occasional vape in a public restroom where I did see a no-smoking sign but really it was only once or twice when I first started.
I have actually come across a few - No-smoking - no vaping signs.
I would go with a provisional sometimes for that one. There are some instances where vaping is reasonable but smoking isn’t. Not many of the reverse though. I vape when I pump gas for example but I wouldn’t smoke. Also in bed.
Some of these comments just make me see how the ANTZ propaganda is working---even with longer term vapers. I find this rather sad. I'm sure vaping and smoking will soon be labeled major cause of "climate change".
My Aunt just died at 87. She was a heavy smoker for at least 50 of those years. She never had issues attributed to smokers, except death, because we all know that without nicotine use one would be immortal.
Okay, I'll lighten up. I'm not saying these things are good for the care and upkeep of one's body and their are always exceptions to any "study". However, I also consider it way wrong to target the nic vaping as evil and see sad eye pleadings about don't vape around another--not even a smoker--a bit overwrought, especially when there are many actual "gateways" being legalized and promoted through medical science and drug industry.
My Aunt just died at 87. She was a heavy smoker for at least 50 of those years. She never had issues attributed to smokers, except death, because we all know that without nicotine use one would be immortal.
Okay, I'll lighten up. I'm not saying these things are good for the care and upkeep of one's body and their are always exceptions to any "study". However, I also consider it way wrong to target the nic vaping as evil and see sad eye pleadings about don't vape around another--not even a smoker--a bit overwrought, especially when there are many actual "gateways" being legalized and promoted through medical science and drug industry.
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I do not vape when pumping gas. Afraid I will blow up or something ... I used to smoke in bed.
Vaping is tolerated in many UK pubs, just not Weatherspoons who are worried their staff will confuse a Smok Alien with a B&H.
I am happy with the 'let the landlord decide' approach. I rarely vape indoors, although if I see if happening and someone says "yes, it's allowed" I'll do it.
I am happy with the 'let the landlord decide' approach. I rarely vape indoors, although if I see if happening and someone says "yes, it's allowed" I'll do it.
Iirc a vape that isn’t being dryburned doesn’t get hot enough to ignite gas fumes. Plus it’s enclosed by the chamber. You may be right though. It’s possible I’m not correctly assessing the risk. Smoking in bed is a famous way to die in a fire. Iirc It’s so common they had to demolish a bunch of publicly funded tiny housing structures for the homeless because the inhabitants kept falling asleep with lit cigarettes and roasting themselves.
Don't know if it's the same one ---I had read in Los Angeles that the city seized the tiny homes that were built by a really nice guy who donated the structures to the homeless because the city said they posed a lot of issues from traffic to drugs to prostitution to smoking.
As far as vaping while pumping, gas that is
. I am probably being a little paranoid but I wouldn't want my battery to short or anything so I just don't.I did smoke in bed - I also popped a cig in my mouth upon awakening (ick). I've read horror stories - and I realize how foolish that was. Fortunately, I skated on that and did not become a statistic!
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