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WolfeReign

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Last year most of the vets around here will remember {i hope} that 510 magazine had made a appearance but due to conditions beyond my own control was closed down after the third issue.

But that was then and this is now, and simply put: Do you want to see/read a vaping e-zine? A new name and location for download has already been chosen, and is one of the two idea's i have.

I cannot make this a poll so just respond with what you think here, and yes when it goes live i would like to offer it on a global scale.
 

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Yes, would love to see it up and running again!

with a request:
that you give 100% honest reviews of juices/vendors.

seems like the few sites/mags that are up now like to give very good reviews to the sites they 'sponsor' regardless of the quality of the products.

(wrote a similar post about this topic earlier

I know its probably tough to give bad reviews to vendors/companies that are in the same business and people who generally enjoy the art of vaping, but nothing worse than seeing a bunch of 'good reviews' and then spending $ on it, just to be disappointed by the results.
 

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Yes, would love to see it up and running again!

with a request:
that you give 100% honest reviews of juices/vendors.

seems like the few sites/mags that are up now like to give very good reviews to the sites they 'sponsor' regardless of the quality of the products.

(wrote a similar post about this topic earlier

I know its probably tough to give bad reviews to vendors/companies that are in the same business and people who generally enjoy the art of vaping, but nothing worse than seeing a bunch of 'good reviews' and then spending $ on it, just to be disappointed by the results.

thank you for your reply. I could not agree more that there has to be honesty in product/sponsor. Believe it or not but 510 magazine had a person not a business/vendor that sponsored us....well I fib slightly. Heavy Designs who where friends with Vapor Geek had done the more then wonderful graphic designs of that e-zine.

The only reason why 510 was shut down was due to the B.S, Slander, and Libel that one member of my staff was creating due to the fact a anonymous reviewer sent in a scathing and brutal report on one vendor. It was this wanting to have the same honesty that cut my days of being a reviewer short as not a lot of vendors wanted to hear me saying point blank if a product was good or bad lol

All I can say is there is a new attitude and mentality going into the second version of the magazine if it comes to fruition and things are going to be the way they should.
 

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thank you for your reply. I could not agree more that there has to be honesty in product/sponsor. Believe it or not but 510 magazine had a person not a business/vendor that sponsored us....well I fib slightly. Heavy Designs who where friends with Vapor Geek had done the more then wonderful graphic designs of that e-zine.

The only reason why 510 was shut down was due to the B.S, Slander, and Libel that one member of my staff was creating due to the fact a anonymous reviewer sent in a scathing and brutal report on one vendor. It was this wanting to have the same honesty that cut my days of being a reviewer short as not a lot of vendors wanted to hear me saying point blank if a product was good or bad lol

All I can say is there is a new attitude and mentality going into the second version of the magazine if it comes to fruition and things are going to be the way they should.

That's good to hear! wish you the best of luck with everything.

And there's a big difference between bashing a vendor/company and simply stating the facts about why something isn't great. You can still be a fan of a vendor and not like a particular juice they put out.

And nothing wrong with sponsoring sites imo, just can't assume that means they have the 'best' of everything.

Bad feedback doesn't mean the vendor will be out of business, just means they can adjust to it and help get their customers exactly what they want.

With so many juice vendors and sites popping up now, we need an honest opinion on them :)
 

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Really? I cannot imagine you would try to do this again....I think a Vaping magazine would be great but you need to have nothing to do with it or it will wind up crashing and burning like it did last time, that's real talk. What was supposed to be "for vapers, by vapers" turned into flame wars and you attempting to claim copyright for you and your wife and just a bunch of nonsense in general. 510 magazine should stay buried...that is my 5 cents, since the penny is dead.
 

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Really? I cannot imagine you would try to do this again....I think a Vaping magazine would be great but you need to have nothing to do with it or it will wind up crashing and burning like it did last time, that's real talk. What was supposed to be "for vapers, by vapers" turned into flame wars and you attempting to claim copyright for you and your wife and just a bunch of nonsense in general. 510 magazine should stay buried...that is my 5 cents, since the penny is dead.

Your right, it did turn into flame wars, I will not dismiss that fact. However I will state that it went a lot further and certainly a lot deeper then that, but unlike some people {we all know who I am talking about here} I have kept my mouth shut about real reasons to why it was buried. As a matter of fact the 510 was going to remain buried. This was going to be a new name, and newer structure to it to avoid the pitfalls of last time.

I am honestly thinking that what happened in the past though could stay there, as it is over and done with. and that is my ten cents worth :p
 

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i would love to see a printed copy available for purchase at a store. nothing beats flipping real pages.

That would be interesting but impossible. How would you get distribution wide enough to make it worth the effort?

I liked 510 and would welcome it's successor (pdf, epub or mobi for me please)
 

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That would be interesting but impossible. How would you get distribution wide enough to make it worth the effort? I liked 510 and would welcome it's successor (pdf, epub or mobi for me please)

Believe it or not but epub and mobi formats is what i had been considering, as there would not be a need for graphic work that way {only for the actual pdf's} plus i was thinking on a html version, thus cancelling out the pdf support all together.

Plus i made this post as not only do i want to judge the interest/constructive criticism, but also see what people would like to see, then if it was feesble would get to work on it and if it was to be produced once where people could view/download. Figured this time around like i said taking a entirely different approach to it all.
 

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Good idea. I missed out on 510, but I know how first (and sometimes 2nd, 3rd and so on) versions of anything can go south due to internal and external pressures/expectations.

As far as reviews go, hardware is hardware, and can be faulty at times, that doesn't mean it can be written off as junk from the get go. Don't review a piece of equipment that fails the first time. Get it replaced, then retest and review. If a device fails consistently, a poor review is in order.

Liquid can be very subjective due to differing tastes. What tastes great to one user, might be manure to another, and vice versa. Might be good to have a group test/rate them before review. If a given sample tastes bad to all testers, then it deserves a poor rating.

YMMV is a good caveat. :)

:2c: (now worthless, rounded down to 0 ) ;)
 

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Really? I cannot imagine you would try to do this again....I think a Vaping magazine would be great but you need to have nothing to do with it or it will wind up crashing and burning like it did last time, that's real talk. What was supposed to be "for vapers, by vapers" turned into flame wars and you attempting to claim copyright for you and your wife and just a bunch of nonsense in general. 510 magazine should stay buried...that is my 5 cents, since the penny is dead.

Is there a link to said info? I like to be informed before I make a decision and it seems like this may start off rough to begin with. I am too new to vaping to know what happened with 510 and would like to see it for myself, rather than some possibly biased amended version of it.
 

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Is there a link to said info? I like to be informed before I make a decision and it seems like this may start off rough to begin with. I am too new to vaping to know what happened with 510 and would like to see it for myself, rather than some possibly biased amended version of it.


You can just search "510 magazine" in the ECF search if you wish to read up :)
 

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You can just search "510 magazine" in the ECF search if you wish to read up :)

Well now if we are going to be rehashing things mate then we need to do it right, nai pas? though your right mate.....i should have had all the links provided in the initial post. It took me about a hour of searching here and google to find the proper links:


The controversy of the magazine #1


The controversy of the magazine #2 this one is of interest as i wonder how and who got the name of the magazine got mixed up?

The controversy of the magazine #3 page four is where it gets interesting.

Below is some supplemental links on the proverbial elephant running away

The controversy of the magazine #4 I believe you want to scroll down to the comments of this blog i made here on ECF, as that is where the "action" happens.

The controversy of the magazine #5 This is where idea the magazine was not mine...{if no one can read it let me know i will make a PDF of it}

There is much of the behind the scene's things as well, which can be offered in a unedited, uncensored manner. The awkward part is they are all in one pdf like format, and i would need to upload it to my cloud drive and offer it for download, BUT on pm basis, so as to not clog this thread up with drama.
 
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Ok I read through the entirety of 1 and 2 read page 4 on the 3rd and barely skimmed the other 2. I still don't see the problem, but if there is this kind of animosity and ill will, among the more experienced community members. It's best not to repeat it.

I'm in the I don't know the history, but history will repeat itself if you let it camp. I just don't even know what to say because when I search ECF and what you linked I just don't see the problem. I'm assuming there is more. I just don't know where to look for it.
 

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Ok I read through the entirety of 1 and 2 read page 4 on the 3rd and barely skimmed the other 2. I still don't see the problem, but if there is this kind of animosity and ill will, among the more experienced community members. It's best not to repeat it.

I'm in the I don't know the history, but history will repeat itself if you let it camp. I just don't even know what to say because when I search ECF and what you linked I just don't see the problem. I'm assuming there is more. I just don't know where to look for it.

I do not honestly know why the past was dredged up about it all, though i do have a good idea. I am so glad that cmac reminded i should post it all and be transparent, so i have decided to write out the complete, no holds barred this is how it happened past. Please note the individual in question has been changed to "someone" for ease of not trying to start things, but only to explain it all:

PS: i am not sure if the last {i think} link will work or not, and i am in the works of turning that into a pdf as well.

But now that in all earnest i should be utterly transparent this is how the whole thing went down:

Months ago i had thought of a few idea's on how to get things going in the community. One was to start doing online DJ work, another was to do VG work {rather boring thought i am good at them} and the other idea i had ran past my wife before ever coming to the site was something to do with a magazine, i mean after all me and my wife own our own publishing company {NOT graphics..let me be clear here}.

So me and my wife had thought we would approach the Canadian Community. I had the idea of Vape Times in mind as between me and my wife we both laughed at the joke that was there, which i am sure you can think of another more popular magazine and see the spoof there. Someone had come up with the idea of 510 magazine which was a great joke on 4-- {you get the idea}. someone had told me she was great at grammar and so she was picked as a acting editor of all the documents that came in and nothing more as the controlling interest of the magazine was between me and my wife.

Jenny had approached me directly asking if i would like to have her professionally host the magazine. From there it was Vapor Geek and Heavy Designs that asked from a beta copy of the magazine and presented me with a stunning first draft with awesome graphic work. I found it interesting {after} reviewing the links that it was this someone who was making the whole magazine their idea, but for the sake of avoiding arguments i let it all slide.....besides i was unaware {more ignorant} of the fact with what was going on with the little cult following on other sites {as per the links}

The Second month, someone had not approached me with anything, so 95% of the work done in the second one was me working my tail off. I was lining up vendor advertising and draws as well. But low and behold someone sent me a scathing article of Canvape. When someone finally approached me after a few pm's and emails where sent stating that we were then in post production of that months copy of the magazine. Not having heard from someone i did not know if they where still doing the editing. I had actually had a really nice contest that was to be put in the magazine for a large prize pack ($200.00 worth) from one very giving vendor. Someonethen presented me with a scathing and ugly report of jughead's i had raised a eyebrow and said i had one for canvape. That was when someone suddenly went rabbit and frothing at the mouth demanding i do not print the canvape review as someone was the owner of 510 magazine, and from there started the drama stunts.

I never contradicted someone when she thought that i was actually going to print the canvape review {in truth i was not going to have either review printed, due to the sheer poison both contained}, and watched as someone proceeded to get the little troopers all charged up. I held off on publishing the magazine as i thought things could all be worked out. Damn.....i had a vendor offering $200.00 {no NOT twenty dollars, two hundred} in prizes. On the same token someone started in with the pm's and publicly attacking the character of my wife {saying she was not real, that she was nothing more then a corpse etc}. Each time either me or my wife reported it to the Mod's here i would get banned for slander and libel, which since this story i have sought and still working on the legal aspect with lawyers and how past to lay charges {yes i am that much of a :censored: now}.

That was when i scrambled to get the magazine produced and simply walked away, as everyone from then said they could do a far better job, so i openly and publicly announced anyone who wanted to take it and run with it were more then welcome to, again keeping my yap shut on the draw of a lifetime everyone lost out on, thinking i could take the high road and let maturity have it buried in the past.

In Essence, one person's foolish drama loving ways, and the troopers that followed behind her cost the community a large prize package, black listing the magazine and thinking they knew the full story, trying to brand myself and my wife nothing more then trouble makers and trolls {you would think people grew up when they hit adulthood}. So you can see where my rock and the hard place is: i am in trouble if i do open my mouth {which i have done here} and not opening my mouth....
 
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Before i forget and being in the continued spirit of being transparent {which i tip my hat to smac to for reminding me that is the best way to be in this case} i needed to go digging for the original links which i am disgusted with myself for ever loosing. I wish to remind everyone the graphic here was not what was originally intended, and it was the hard work of Lea from Vapor geek and her connections to heavy design in creating these {which i understand were debated over during walking dead...i still chuckle at that thought}

The two issues of 510 Magazine can be found here for the download . If you do not want to click the links then below both magazines Jenna {that is how i know her as} included the following under the both of the magazines:

If you did like 510 Magazine, I thank you for taking your time to come by and download it to eventually read it. Unfortunately I must say that 510 Magazine will no longer be published or hosted here. I’m still going to leave these issues here for a while. This wasn't a decision of mine. I’d love to have continued and helped the Vaper Community really have an amazing e-publication to enjoy about the entire vaping experience. The owner had his decisions for it and I respect him for that. Who knows…? Maybe I’ll just come up with something else for all of the vapers out there! Only time will tell! I gotta put the following here. Please respect 510 Magazine and the hard work, diligence, patience and love we all put into our work Thanks!
 
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