Vaping or Smoking?

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SpidaFly

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After much reading, my conclusion is that vaping is at least less harmful than smoking (and in my opinion, significantly less harmful than smoking)... (and in my wife's opinion as well, as she is a doctor.)

That doesn't mean that vaping is strictly SAFE however. That has not been strictly proven.

The possible dangers from vaping come from flavorings that have been deemed safe (GRAS, or "generally recognized as safe") for consumption. While they're deemed safe for consumption, some of those flavorings may not be completely safe for inhalation. As a community, we seek out vendors with safer products and encourage other vendors to consider the safety of their products and how they're being used.

It's an interesting social perspective - in general, I would say, the vaping community is dedicated to safety: first finding a safer alternative than smoking tobacco, second finding the safest materials to use while vaping, whether it be safer chemicals in our eliquids, or safer batteries, or safer electronics, education toward safety, etc. I see the vaping community's attitude as safety-driven, where the tobacco industry is not safety driven. This gives me great hope for vaping, as through research, education, and customer pro-action, we as customers can help drive vaping to be as safe as we want it to be through independent means.
 
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We think that vaping is safer than smoking, BUT at this time there has not been enough long term research done to say that with 100% certainty. Mostly for the reasons that SpidaFly points out in his above post.

What I can with 100% certainty say, is that myself and every single person I have met in real life and online who used to smoke and now vapes, has felt improved lung function, better heart condition, a return of their sense of taste and smell.


Intial research does seem to say that vaping is safer and less harmful than smoking, but honestly it will be 40 to 50yrs before we will know if vaping is "safe" and "harmless".
 

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FallenRawToast said:
What I can with 100% certainty say, is that myself and every single person I have met in real life and online who used to smoke and now vapes, has felt improved lung function, better heart condition, a return of their sense of taste and smell.
+1 to this.

Intial research does seem to say that vaping is safer and less harmful than smoking, but honestly it will be 40 to 50yrs before we will know if vaping is "safe" and "harmless".
And I hope that researchers understand that "vaping" applies to a vast range of methods of action. Vaping covers a larger scope of possibilities (how much vapor is inhaled, if it is inhaled, the ingredients being inhaled, the multitude of wick and coil materials used in the community, hell even the heat that some of us sub-ohmers run at, etc.) when compared to smoking (which is all pretty much the same - light tobacco on fire, breathe it in). In my mind, this makes vaping harder to compare to smoking because we have soooo many variables - a stupid Blu cig-a-like likely results in completely different health impacts than does someone who chucks clouds with their mech mod+rda+unflavoured home made eliquid. This is why I fear legislators - the more complex a new phenomena becomes, the more difficult it is for a legislator to grasp and they still try to lump an entire phenomena under one single term: "vaping".

/rant off :) Back to the topic, nothing to see here. :D:vapor:
 
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Thanks for posting that article - An interesting quote from that article reads:
A 2010 study has, predictably, shown that e-cigarettes suppress nicotine cravings less effectively than tobacco cigarettes.6 Some tobacco control advocates worry that they simply deliver an insufficient amount of nicotine to ultimately prove effective for cessation.
Prior to buying a mechanical mod and RDA and building myself a high-subohm setup, I, too, didn't always feel that vaping substituted my craving for a cigarette. However, after getting into mech mods, mere 6mg/ml juice satisfies me completely, and I haven't desired nor touched a cigarette in a month. Even around my constantly smoking friends.

I find that the vaping experience is really something that can depend on any specific individuals needs and preferences. I feel better with a big throat hit, a cloud, and apparently not much nicotine. Some need a ton of nicotine and not much else. Others are in between.

Welcome to the community, I hope we help you find what you need to never want to buy analogues again. :D
 
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Vaping is certainly an improvement over smoking in that there are no carcinogenic particles of nicotine coated ash entering our lungs on every inhale, as there are with cigarettes. Is it better than not smoking? I'd say yes. Is it as safe as not vaping? Probably not. PG and VG are a foreign substance that we inhale. Anything other than clean air isn't particularly good for your lungs. It's hard to find "clean" air these days. Studies show that ecigs don't produce vapor that is significantly worse than the air in a typical city.

The real upside of vaping is that we aren't smoking as a result of our vaping habit and it's an excellent way to transition from cigarettes to something that's definitely less harmful. People who quit smoking and start vaping eventually are able to begin exercising again as their lungs heal and their circulatory systems begin to purge the body of toxins.

Here's a study worth reading. It's the results of a 5 year study of thousands of vapers done by the Drexel School of Medicine in Massachusetts.

http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/files/publichealth/ms08.pdf
 
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