Vaping to loose weight,

[j3000]

My daughter who is going to turn 21 in a few months, uses vaping to help her loose weight, instead of grabbing a sweet snack she vapes. Non nic juice. She uses very sweet e-liquid.

The question is what do you think of this I know vapping is harm reduction, so to use vapping as a weight alternative, and to reduce harm of being overweight.

So is this a new market, for use vappers, so instead of a tobacco free product a weight lost product.

 

[chellie]

Vaping did not help me lose weight. I was a smoker and switched to vaping. I gained weight. Then worked on it to lose it. I know of others who have lost weight but that was not their main reason to vape.

Depends on your state so I am assuming that you have checked out the legalities and that vaping is legal at her age in the state you are in and that your questions are all legal.

Does you daughter vape zero nicotine?

My overall opinion - is that at such a young age - if she was not a smoker - I would not recommend smoking or vaping. If she gave up smoking and is now vaping then good for her for quitting smoking.

Further, as a soon-to be 21-year-old women she should be active enough at school or work to lose weight or be able to find a different way.

Example - If she is not a not a smoker or vaper ---and she needs something to do so as not to eat fattening food -buy 2 bags of celery, put it in bite size pieces in a plastic bag and add some sort of sweeter or spice that she likes. She can eat that all day long and it would be very low calorie.

Or join weight watchers or a support group - younger folks that I know seem to be in to that peer type of support.

The other thought is maybe she is telling you this so that you will not be against her vaping?

Personally, I believe that vaping is much less harmful than cigarettes and there is documented evidence to support this.

And even though I am a huge proponent of vaping - I would not recommend that a 21-year-old person who does not smoke to take up vaping.

 

[Tiglish]

Further, as a soon-to be 21-year-old women she should be active enough at school or work to lose weight or be able to find a different way.

Example - If she is not a not a smoker or vaper ---and she needs something to do so as not to eat fattening food -buy 2 bags of celery, put it in bite size pieces in a plastic bag and add some sort of sweeter or spice that she likes. She can eat that all day long and it would be very low calorie.

Or join weight watcher or a support group - younger folks that I know seem to be in to that peer type of support.

For some people losing weight is not as easy as eating celery and being active. Calories in does not equal calories out! I lost 100lbs and have been overweight since 8 years old. I know a fair bit about this topic.

In my opinion, and this is only my opinion, if she is finding vaping helps her avoid sweet foods and assists in her weight loss - why not use this tool. I suspect since you used the harm reduction as a reason she has a significant amount of weight to lose. There are significant health risks being significantly overweight and it doesn't do much for your mental health when you are young and fat.

We don't know the full impacts of vaping long term yet, and that is a risk she will have weigh up .

Side note: ketogenic diet worked wonders for me.

 

[chellie]

For some people losing weight is not as easy as eating celery and being active. Calories in does not equal calories out! I lost 100lbs and have been overweight since 8 years old. I know a fair bit about this topic.

In my opinion, and this is only my opinion, if she is finding vaping helps her avoid sweet foods and assists in her weight loss - why not use this tool. I suspect since you used the harm reduction as a reason she has a significant amount of weight to lose. There are significant health risks being significantly overweight and it doesn't do much for your mental health when you are young and fat.

We don't know the full impacts of vaping long term yet, and that is a risk she will have weigh up .

Side note: ketogenic diet worked wonders for me.

I also recommended support groups - my opinion and it is my opinion is that I do not recommend it for such a young person if she was not a smoker.

I seemed to hit a nerve with you and did not mean to. For the record I lost 100 pounds so know a thing or two or three as well

Her mom can read differing opinions and help her daughter make a decision

 

[ilporcupine]

When I was of similar age, many of my 'peer group' took up smoking as a weight control strategy.
I have heard a similar rationale for continuing to smoke, from people many years her senior. Now THAT is a bad idea!
Somewhere on this or another forum, I commented about all the people vaping dessert or fruit or bakery flavors. Jokingly, I suggested that it could be an alternative to having the real dessert, just as it is a substitute for cigarettes. Hmmm....
While i would never condone or recommend anyone start vaping when already smoke free, the OP didn't specifically note whether the daughter started ONLY for this reason.
At 20, you should be allowed to make your own decisions, mostly. That doesn't rule out strong doses of information and advice from Mom (or Dad, not specified in profile)! Finally, this may be a less harmful strategy than diet drugs, or extreme fad diets. Both of which can cause much harm, indeed. If she were to vape once or twice daily, as an alternate for a sweet snack, as opposed to constantly, because she isn't eating, it might seem a fairly innocuous act.
Just for the record, I got a bit of pushback from some here for advising someone on the New member forum, that it was not a good idea to start vaping, just for the sake of vaping, rather than as a tool for quitting cigs...

 

[sonicbomb]

*lose

 

[ilporcupine]

*lose

So your gonna pick that one and let 'vapping' 'vapper' and 'weight lost product' go?
If you must edit others posts, you might as well do the whole editor thing... It's likely a full time position.

 

[DeloresRose]

Vaping has not helped me lose any weight, personally, but I’m not 21 anymore either. She’s old enough to drive, vote, or serve the military, so imho she’s old enough to make her own decisions. She’s not going to get addicted to zero nic, and it’s probably less dangerous than the diet drugs and fad diets.

I’m not sure how true this is, but I’ve heard it said that vg metabolizes like sugar. She might want to look into it from that aspect.

I’m not of the mindset that if you never smoked, you should never vape. If for whatever reason a person is tempted to do one or the other, better they vape. And by that I don’t mean to imply that I think everyone should vape. Just saying that if it’s going to be one or the other, the less harmful is the better option.

 

[Asbestos4004]

There's worse things a 21 year old could be messing with. You should count your blessings.

 

[sonicbomb]

So your gonna pick that one and let 'vapping' 'vapper' and 'weight lost product' go?
If you must edit others posts, you might as well do the whole editor thing... It's likely a full time position.

I didn't edit, I corrected. I didn't do the rest as it's good to share.

 

[Vchick]

The harm reduction is cited for smokers, no medical claims and no other benefits for vaping. I would not want to take in anything into my lungs if she is a non-smoker than the air we breathe. I would recommend she talk to her doctor about safe ways to loose weight.

 

[score69]

It's been a weird road for me. Started smoking when I was 15, quit when I was maybe 30. During a good part of this time, I dipped constantly as well. Used to have a wad in my mouth and a smoke going at the same time. I'm 47 now and haven't had a cigarette in 17 years.

For almost 8 yrs after quitting smoking, I was completely nic free. Then one day bought a can of Copenhagen, and was instantly back to dipping. Mind you, I had already had a gum tissue graft to replace my lower gums in my late 20's, you would think that would have deterred me.

Finally switched back over to lozenges and gum. Expensive. On top of that, since I constantly had a lozenge in my mouth, it was causing cavities, and heartburn. Was using the gum so much, I started having jaw issues.

I picked up vaping as soon as I was aware of it and haven't looked back. So between the age of 15 and 47 I only had 8 yrs completely nic free. In all honesty, I'm not concerned about my vaping. It's been the least harmful nicotine consumption I've ever used (as far as I'm concerned), and I've abused my body much worse than this in the past.

Where am I going with this? I have no idea, lol. Just babbling.

Seriously though, there are much worse vices out there. Not sure I would recommend vaping for weight loss in somebody who wasn't previously a nicotine user (nicotine does work as an appetite suppressant for some), but if it works for her, who am I to judge? It's certainly better than her picking up smoking to help with weight loss. I've heard this excuse from folks in the past as to why they started smoking.

 

[Opinionated]

@j3000 - Nicotine is an appetite suppressant.

People going from smoking to vaping don't often lose weight, and some gain if they are getting less nicotine.

Vaping without nicotine is not going to do anything to suppress appetite... not physically.

The sweetness on your tongue might have a placebo affect or the effect of making you think you've had a dessert when you havent, but it won't stop hunger.

As such, someone seeking to lose weight by tricking the brain into thinking you've had a sweet might be better served by putting a drop of ejuice sweetener (sweetener only such as TFA sweetener) on their tongue periodically..

It would do the same thing as vaping for the zero nicotine user seeking the placebo effect, and wouldn't put a never smokers lungs at risk for any potential side effects to vaping for the never smoker.

As a parent, I would recommend that, instead of vaping.

 

[stols001]

There are "sweet" sprays you can use on the tongue to get that effect, and they've been around considerably longer. I would imagine the same effect could be achieved, if that's what she is looking for it's possible the "craving" for sweets would be even more reduced, if squirted directly on the tongue.

I will say, I eat less sweets than I used to, but I also gained weight (on purpose, and I had to work on it though, although actually "understanding" what food tasted like was a big factor, that and the fact that it's really hard to eat when dealing with 18 months of pneumonia and on a rapid approach to COPD).

Nicotine is an appetite suppressant, too. If your daughter is vaping nicotine, that may be what is going on. In all honesty, I STARTED smoking in part because I was an avid biker and runner and I was spending the summer in England and had a bad hip from running and couldn't bring my bike. LOL, I FULLY intended (at 18) to Just Quit when I got home. It was the dumbest decision I ever made (and I've made PLENTY) and the one I most want to take back.

I don't usually suggest weight loss via vaping, and certainly not in your daughter's case. I had a monkey on my back for decades and it almost killed me.

I cannot in good conscience recommend vaping to a never vaper for WEIGHT loss. Vaping appears to be safer, but no longitudinal studies have been done.

Finally, and I don't mean to come across as rude, and I understand your concern for your daughter, but she is the one who needs to come on here and read and participate in this thread. Once I turned 18, I made my own decisions and my parents sometimes had trouble recognizing that. However, she is legal, of age, and I am hoping you will collect this information to provide too her, or encourage her to come here to discuss it. I kind of have a feeling she may vape anyway, but if you do have a motivator (a car! A membership to a great gym! Some other "something") I have found motivational behavioral interventions work best with kiddos. Mine has turned 21 TODAY.

I love him to death, he's made good and bad decisions, and I've offered advice (when requested) and that has usually been the best thing (for both of us). If she were underage, I might be singing a different tune, but frankly, she's not.

Best of luck, I really hope some of this thread is helpful.

Anna

 

[Letitia]

@j3000 She's an adult and wants to be healthier, if vaping is helping curb random eating I say stick with it. Hopefully she has increased physical activity (if able) to increase her chances of success. If vaping is affecting her lungs in a negative way as a non smoker she will know much faster than the rest of us so I wouldn't concern myself with that right now. Kudos to your daughter for finding something that works for her much the same as we here have found what works for us.

 

[chellie]

When I was of similar age, many of my 'peer group' took up smoking as a weight control strategy.
I have heard a similar rationale for continuing to smoke, from people many years her senior. Now THAT is a bad idea!
Somewhere on this or another forum, I commented about all the people vaping dessert or fruit or bakery flavors. Jokingly, I suggested that it could be an alternative to having the real dessert, just as it is a substitute for cigarettes. Hmmm....
While i would never condone or recommend anyone start vaping when already smoke free, the OP didn't specifically note whether the daughter started ONLY for this reason.
At 20, you should be allowed to make your own decisions, mostly. That doesn't rule out strong doses of information and advice from Mom (or Dad, not specified in profile)! Finally, this may be a less harmful strategy than diet drugs, or extreme fad diets. Both of which can cause much harm, indeed. If she were to vape once or twice daily, as an alternate for a sweet snack, as opposed to constantly, because she isn't eating, it might seem a fairly innocuous act.
Just for the record, I got a bit of pushback from some here for advising someone on the New member forum, that it was not a good idea to start vaping, just for the sake of vaping, rather than as a tool for quitting cigs...

"Just for the record, I got a bit of pushback from some here for advising someone on the New member forum, that it was not a good idea to start vaping, just for the sake of vaping, rather than as a tool for quitting cigs..."
I share the same opinion - we are all different and you are certainly entitled to your opinion

 

[Opinionated]

"Just for the record, I got a bit of pushback from some here for advising someone on the New member forum, that it was not a good idea to start vaping, just for the sake of vaping, rather than as a tool for quitting cigs..."
I share the same opinion - we are all different and you are certainly entitled to your opinion

Your not going to stop kids wanting to do the latest "cool" thing - which is how most smokers got their start.

You can advise young adults but you won't convince anyone not to do something because you said its bad..

In the end, some people are going to vape who never smoked, just like some people will eat sweets or other unhealthy things.

There ARE worse things than vaping, cigarettes are one.

In the end, it's up to us to make people feel like they can come to us for advice on how to vape safely..

There's enough people demonizing vaping, not enough telling them how to be safe when they vape anyway..

Running people off is as bad as anything we can do.. if they are adults, we answer their questions, not demonize vaping.

 

[chellie]

Your not going to stop kids wanting to do the latest "cool" thing - which is how most smokers got their start.

You can advise young adults but you won't convince anyone not to do something because you said its bad..

In the end, some people are going to vape who never smoked, just like some people will eat sweets or other unhealthy things.

There ARE worse things than vaping, cigarettes are one.

In the end, it's up to us to make people feel like they can come to us for advice on how to vape safely..

There's enough people demonizing vaping, not enough telling them how to be safe when they vape anyway..

Running people off is as bad as anything we can do.. if they are adults, we answer their questions, not demonize vaping.

Of course - we all know kids/young adults do not listen for the most part. That's the nature of life.

The other poster that I quoted said that she received some pushback for sharing her opinion that she did not recommend vaping on the new member forum just for the sake of vaping. I wholeheartedly agree with that poster's opinion whether it is an (ahem) older person or young adult. Doesn't mean they will or will not.

I vape from the minute I open my eyes until bedtime. I like it. A lot. A whole lot. And I wholeheartedly support the vaping industry. Even so, telling a young adult or anyone for that matter that my opinion is not to start to vape if they are not a smoker or even to lose weight in this case, is certainly not meant to demonize vaping. And I do not think it does. It is an opinion.

People come to the forum -- I hope and I think in large part to find out info -- to get advice, to read the many varied opinions, to become more educated, to share their experiences and to be helpful.

In the end, I agree that it is up to that person to decide what is best for them and getting well-rounded varied opinions will hopefully help them to do that.

 

[hell_storm2004]

Vaping wont help in losing weight. Its a simple math trick.

Calories in < Calories out.

A kitchen scale would be the best advise. Measure what the intake is daily and calculate macros.

Focus on proper diet. Gym is always a plus. Vaping doesn't even come into the picture.

 

[ilporcupine]

Vaping wont help in losing weight. Its a simple math trick.

Calories in < Calories out.

A kitchen scale would be the best advise. Measure what the intake is daily and calculate macros.

Focus on proper diet. Gym is always a plus. Vaping doesn't even come into the picture.

I cannot imagine why people have so much trouble losing weight, when you have made it all so simple for them./sarc