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Vaping with and ecig plugged into the wall ?

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Zurd, Jun 11, 2019.

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  1. Zurd

    Zurd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2010
    Montréal
    Hi all, any vaporizers on the market you can plug into the wall and vape with it without any battery?

    It would be great to have one of these on my computer desk with a very long cable. My vaporizer right now has a USB passthrough but it doesn't work without a battery and I really don't like the idea of leaving it plugged into the wall indefinitely with a battery in it.
     
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  2. Anise

    Anise Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    May 11, 2016
    Southern Louisiana USA
    To be honest I've never tried to vape any of my devices without a battery but plugged into the wall. I accidentally tried it with my Vaporesso Swag and I think if I'd had a filled atty it would have worked. I'll try a few out today and let you know.
     
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  3. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
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  4. Zazie

    Zazie Ultra Member

    Nov 2, 2018
    Maine, USA
    I would love to be able to forgo batteries and plug my devices into the wall. I will be following this thread with interest.
     
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  5. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
    Yeah, Im hoping some one that uses a passthrough station drops in.

    There are schematics online and I could build one but I wouldnt mind just finding a finished and pleasing looking unit ready to go.
     
  6. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Senior Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    I have a couple of PSUs lying about. I see things happening.

    Sent from my XT1765 using Tapatalk
     
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  7. Zazie

    Zazie Ultra Member

    Nov 2, 2018
    Maine, USA
    What I really want is something that would work with all the gear I already have. Probably a pipe dream.
     
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  8. Zurd

    Zurd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2010
    Montréal
    Nice find! But 110$ for the vape station then another 110$ for the mod, total of 220$. The cable is big and it's underneath the vape mod, meaning when you put it down, my RDA will leak. There has to be a better alternative than this.
     
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  9. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
    Yes.
    There was a company called Frost Box but I think they have gone, Im not sure. There unit looked quite good but was also spendy.
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    Ive only been looking for 2 days and that item comes up in every search. There are some others but it looks like a few of the companies have gone under or just stopped, maybe everyone likes the idea but no one wants to pay for one. Its always going to be more expensive than even an expensive battery powered mod.
    None of the bigger Chinese manufacturers seem to make one that I can find.
    Plenty of home made versions on the forums and some schematics.
     
  10. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    The short answer to your question is No. The USB port on a regulated mod is at best 2amp.
     
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  11. Don29palms

    Don29palms Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 12, 2014
    joshua tree, ca
    $220 isn't that much really. I have mech mods that cost more than that.
     
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  12. Zurd

    Zurd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2010
    Montréal
    Guess that what it comes down to. I will stick with 18650 battery then. It's a lot more small than a big PSU somewhere around my desk ahah

    How come every solution you found includes a PSU? A plug in the wall can't give enough power or amps to an ecig and you need to make an electric conversion?
     
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  13. Jebbn

    Jebbn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2018
    Australia
    I was thinking of just wicking a toaster, putting a spout on it to suck on, pouring butterscotch all over it and vaping like I was possessed.
     
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  14. HigherStateD

    HigherStateD Senior Member

    Mar 11, 2019
    Unless you have a mod that can use 110v AC, then no. The PSU is used to step down the power to something in a useable range. I've always considered a model train transformer myself. It has more control over output current than a PSU.

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  15. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Mains power is AC.
    Mod power is DC.
    Having attempted and built something similar about 6 years ago; I used a switching power supply that put out 2V-12V and was rated at about 10amps.

    The cable is never long enough to take the device with you. Be it to the kitchen to get a drink or to the printer to get a page. If it is long enough, it is awkward and in the way.
    If like me, you use your favorite topper most of the day, you would need two "favorites" and another device for use away from the desk.
    I made the body from a flashlight tube and mounted a 510 at one end. Without a mosfet, I had to use a huge, expensive vandal proof switch as the tiny momentary switches would fry rather quickly above 2 amps.

    My first attempt I used a hole in the end cap for the wires, that device did not stand up (doh) so V2 had the wires inserted in a hole I drilled in the body.
    However, since I used an ALU flashlight body, the weight of the wires hanging from the workbench would topple the unit unless I placed it in a holder. (think heavy coffee mug)

    I still have the device on a shelf by the work bench, but it no longer gets any use.

    IMO: An internal/removable battery device (pass through enabled) and a simple USB cable that can be quickly disconnected and reconnected offers the best of both worlds. I do not suggest you try to reinvent the wheel.

    HTH
    I
     
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  16. puffon

    puffon Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2014
    The Villages, FL
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  17. Zurd

    Zurd Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2010
    Montréal
    Awesome explanation Izan. Makes sense now! I'll just stick with batteries.

    I was just thinking about the wall plug because right now my 18650 batteries are almost dead (Samsung INR18650-30Q). Just bought new ones yesterday (Samsung INR18650-25R). The one I have right now , I've only had them for 20 months and already can barely hold a charge. Battery is dead in the morning and I don't think I sleep walk and vape during the night (I hope not lol)
     
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  18. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    @Zurd, the only thing that I've heard around is custom built Evolv DNA mods. As the problem with pass through you've found is you need batteries.

    With the custom Evolv DNA, folks have used just a different power source instead of internal batteries.
     
  19. Punk In Drublic

    Punk In Drublic Ultra Member

    Aug 28, 2018
    Toronto, ON
    If you are interested drop them a line. They are just using a standard enclosure, they might be able to retrofit the Aviation Connector on the back instead of the bottom.

    The cable is thick for it has be able to handle the current plus any wear and tear through use.
     
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  20. United States

    United States Ultra Member

    Aug 17, 2018
    RVA
    No. Why?
    Because stupid people in America will do stupid stuff then hire an ambulance chasing law firm to sue the manufacturer, then some stupid jury will award said stupid people a stupid amount of money the ambulance chasing lawyers get the bulk of then the whole thing will go round and round like the wheels on a bus.

    Just ask McDonalds, or Winnebego, or the fellow in prison in Va who sued himself for $5 million but because he had no income while in jail sued Va to pay the damages he had awared himself when he lost his case against himself....

    Google 'stella awards' for more.
     
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