VaporChase Review: 3 Whole Tobacco Alkaloid juices from Aroma E-Juice

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Gonna check this out sometime tommorow, I am pooped tonite lol - wanted to thank you for reviewing not just one, but 3 of the WTA!! I am curious, though I probably won't be personally trying them, UNLESS my non-WTA juice becomes unsatisfying. Though, if I did try it, I would try apple. Anyhoo, will check this out later...
 

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Gonna check this out sometime tommorow, I am pooped tonite lol - wanted to thank you for reviewing not just one, but 3 of the WTA!! I am curious, though I probably won't be personally trying them, UNLESS my non-WTA juice becomes unsatisfying. Though, if I did try it, I would try apple. Anyhoo, will check this out later...

My pleasure. :) My general advice is that because WTAs are classed as carcinogens it's probably something you should avoid unless they do satisfy a need of something you're missing in your E-liquid. For those of us who never missed them, they are unlikely to provide anything significant beyond what you expect out of an ordinary juice -- apart from being pretty good juices in their own right.
 

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Excellent review, thank you! I do feel there is something "missing" in my vape and still have an analog once in a while. I find that the more analogs I have, the less satisfying my vape becomes.... However, I don't think I want to be adding the WTA's to my juice as they are classified as a carcinogen. Although I think that someone who just can't give up the analogs and wants to should check them out, at least in the beginning. Once the switch is complete, they could try to taper off the wta... Great stuff!
 

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Excellent review, thank you! I do feel there is something "missing" in my vape and still have an analog once in a while. I find that the more analogs I have, the less satisfying my vape becomes.... However, I don't think I want to be adding the WTA's to my juice as they are classified as a carcinogen. Although I think that someone who just can't give up the analogs and wants to should check them out, at least in the beginning. Once the switch is complete, they could try to taper off the wta... Great stuff!

Well, the way I see it is, if it's something you feel like you need to make the switch to vaping exclusively then it's still safer than analogs, despite the added carcinogens. If nothing else and it's something you need to ween yourself off of, I have to think that it's better, safer, and possibly even easier to do through E-juice than cigarettes.
 

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Thanks for the review mindfield! Unfortunately Aroma ejuice won't process orders from outside the USA, so us Canadians can't order any WTA juice :(

Well, that kinda stinks. :( As I mentioned in the video I got mine from a third party, so I didn't know whether or not they shipped to Canada, and apparently they don't.
 

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I watched your video days ago and didn't get to reply about it because I started feeling really sick and logged off. (not because of your video LOL). Anyways, let me see if I remember what I was typing to you lol.........

I remember thinking it was interesting to learn about the MAOIs in tobacco......

And I also enjoyed your video very much, still not gonna try it unless I feel like I might go back to cigarettes.....tho in your vid, it seems like it was more of just a really good juice to you than some kind of miracle juice that really copies the sensation of having a cig, tho you did seem to have some effect later, after that first juice.....

Anyhow, thank you for reviewing!
 

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I watched your video days ago and didn't get to reply about it because I started feeling really sick and logged off. (not because of your video LOL). Anyways, let me see if I remember what I was typing to you lol.........

I remember thinking it was interesting to learn about the MAOIs in tobacco......

And I also enjoyed your video very much, still not gonna try it unless I feel like I might go back to cigarettes.....tho in your vid, it seems like it was more of just a really good juice to you than some kind of miracle juice that really copies the sensation of having a cig, tho you did seem to have some effect later, after that first juice.....

Anyhow, thank you for reviewing!

Happy do to it, and glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, I generally don't recommend WTAs unless it's something you think you will need to stick to vaping. The majority of people aren't even aware of WTAs (or MAOIs for that matter) and so do just fine with standard juice. But there are those few who have a lot of trouble making the switch due to a sensitivity to one of the components in cigarettes that they're not getting in their juice, and WTAs may be one of those things that might help certain people make the switch permanently. It may not be as good for you as standard E-liquid, but it's still a lot better than tobacco. :)
 

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My pleasure. :) My general advice is that because WTAs are classed as carcinogens it's probably something you should avoid unless they do satisfy a need of something you're missing in your E-liquid. For those of us who never missed them, they are unlikely to provide anything significant beyond what you expect out of an ordinary juice -- apart from being pretty good juices in their own right.

It's not the WTA as a whole that's carcinogenic, it's TSNA's (Tobacco-specific Nitrosamines such as N-nitrosoanabasine) that are the cautionary bit, and what you want to avoid. Low TSNA content is crucial to a "safe" WTA e-liquid. That said, nicotine used by itself (such as in gums, patches, and e-liquid) has not been studied anywhere near as much as nicotine with its full spectrum of alkaloids has.

Since patches and standard e-juice didn't work for me, WTA has and will be my go-to for a while, but I agree that it may not be for everyone. It's all about harm-reduction, and using WTA eliquid is bound to be huge amounts better for anyone than smoking. For me, it (WTA eliquid) has a secondary "antidepressant" effect that standard e-liquid did not produce.

Here's a list of the TSNA's (the nasty things you want to avoid):

N-nitrosonornicotine (NNN)
4-methyl-N-nitrosamino-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK)
N-nitrosoanatabine (NAT)
N-nitrosoanabasine (NAB)
 
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It's not the WTA as a whole that's carcinogenic, it's TSNA's (Tobacco-specific Nitrosamines such as N-nitrosoanabasine) that are the cautionary bit, and what you want to avoid. Low TSNA content is crucial to a "safe" WTA e-liquid. That said, nicotine used by itself (such as in gums, patches, and e-liquid) has not been studied anywhere near as much as nicotine with its full spectrum of alkaloids has.

Since patches and standard e-juice didn't work for me, WTA has and will be my go-to for a while, but I agree that it may not be for everyone. It's all about harm-reduction, and using WTA eliquid is bound to be huge amounts better for anyone than smoking. For me, it (WTA eliquid) has a secondary "antidepressant" effect that standard e-liquid did not produce.

Here's a list of the TSNA's (the nasty things you want to avoid):

N-nitrosonornicotine (NNN)
4-methyl-N-nitrosamino-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK)
N-nitrosoanatabine (NAT)
N-nitrosoanabasine (NAB)

Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't sure what specifically could be carcinogenic, and had read a bit on TSNAs but hadn't really put the two together. I still do think though that for those that are getting along fine with regular E-juice there's no real reason to get WTA juices, but for those who are having difficulty making the switch, they are very much worth a shot, and would still be far better for you than cigarettes.
 

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Indeed. The cost for WTA outweighs the negative health you purchase with cigarettes at a higher price point than any WTA currently on the market. That said, there are strains of tobacco that are safer to use as a starting point than others, this is due to their inherently lower naturally produced WTA.

Eventually, we will see some amazing things happen that will make cigarettes fully obsolete, but as it stands now, vaping makes cigarettes obsolete to begin with. WTA is just another weapon in the arsenal of harm-reduction. :vapor:

For those of us that don't respond well to nic-only and need the full spectrum of natural alkaloids, WTA is the way to go. For those that don't, normal e-liquid should suffice. On the other hand, if you're vaping and feel like a cigarette might be good right about now, certainly grab a couple bottles of WTA. Your lungs will thank you. :D

Also, bear in mind that both vendors that make WTA currently offer a wide selection of tasty juices. Vaping, with it's wide range of selections, options, and flavors, will never die. It's like a world of innovation coming to life.
 
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