VaporChase Review: Diablo Loco TH booster from Totally Wicked

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Great video! Love his expression @ 6:08 - looks like he's working up the nerve.:laugh:

I'm a TH fiend and it works for me even though I mix it at a much lower ratio (one drop DL into 3 or 4ml of PG) and then add one drop of that mixture to about 1.5ml, so that little bottle is probably lifetime supply.
 

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Great video! Love his expression @ 6:08 - looks like he's working up the nerve.:laugh:

Yeah, I was. I mean, I like hot sauce and everything (even if my certain parts of me aren't shy about tell me what they think of the stuff) but inhaling it is something else entirely.

I'm a TH fiend and it works for me even though I mix it at a much lower ratio (one drop DL into 3 or 4ml of PG) and then add one drop of that mixture to about 1.5ml, so that little bottle is probably lifetime supply.

I love TH too, it's just that I seem to only like a particular kind of TH, and that's the sort provided by nicotine. Capsaisin just doesn't it for me like nicotine does I'm afraid, so that's what I've been sticking to. It'd have been nice if I could have used this, but it seems that, for the moment, there just isn't any substitute for the real thing, at least not for me.
 

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Great review mate!

I have been absent from the PC awhile and regret missing your review, but thanks for the thanks.

Totally Wicked are discontinuing stocking the "Decadent Vapours" products and are just selling their USA "Patriot" range of flavours now. In response to this, decadent vapours are now providing consumer sales via their website. Maybe they have a better international shipping tariff?

You really scared me Mindfield. At about 13 minutes into the video you give your eye a good rub. I actually yelled "NO!!" at my screen. Suffice to say, touching my eye is a mistake I made before. Once. Never again.

I'd be interested to know how you find the stuff when mixed in significantly weaker with a flavour you already like, such as a fruit, tobacco or minty flavour. I have just ordered "Diabolo Poco" from the new DV site, which will be my first ever savoury flavour purchase. It boasts tomatoes, meat and a hint of spice, as opposed to Diabolo Loco which is, as you quite rightly say, almost pure capsacin. Knowing my taste buds, I will be combining the two diabolo bottles in a fit of massochism.
 

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Great review mate!

I have been absent from the PC awhile and regret missing your review, but thanks for the thanks.

And thanks for the kind words. :)

Totally Wicked are discontinuing stocking the "Decadent Vapours" products and are just selling their USA "Patriot" range of flavours now. In response to this, decadent vapours are now providing consumer sales via their website. Maybe they have a better international shipping tariff?

Could be, but I'm not keen on buying more at the moment. :D

You really scared me Mindfield. At about 13 minutes into the video you give your eye a good rub. I actually yelled "NO!!" at my screen. Suffice to say, touching my eye is a mistake I made before. Once. Never again.

lol, yeah, I've had that happen more than once and it's never pleasant. However I took enough precautions with this stuff that I was sure I didn't have any on my hands or anything so I wasn't too worried.

I'd be interested to know how you find the stuff when mixed in significantly weaker with a flavour you already like, such as a fruit, tobacco or minty flavour. I have just ordered "Diabolo Poco" from the new DV site, which will be my first ever savoury flavour purchase. It boasts tomatoes, meat and a hint of spice, as opposed to Diabolo Loco which is, as you quite rightly say, almost pure capsacin. Knowing my taste buds, I will be combining the two diabolo bottles in a fit of massochism.

Tomatoes and meat? Oh, man, I do wish you luck with that one. I'll admit to still being curious about certain savory vapes, but they seem never to turn out anything like you imagine they will. And even when they do kind of end up tasting like you imagine they might it just ends up feeling weird in a vape. At least to me it does. I'd still try a savory flavour I haven't tried yet, but I wouldn't by more than the smallest sample bottle of it. :D

To be honest though, with regard to Diablo Loco, the throat hit it gave was sufficiently different from what I like that I don't think any amount, however small, would compliment anything I could put it in. The hit is just too different, and the spiciness it imparts is something I don't really care for in a vape, I've found.
 

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I see exactly what you mean, by the spiciness being unsuitable.

At the risk of going off-topic, I am wondering what would provide a similar experience without being overly toxic.

Obviously cigarettes impart throat hit as they contain noxious chemicals and oxidised compounds which aggrivate the throat.

Nicotine also provides a similar throat hit as it is a noxious, poisonous chemical. I have personally smelled pure nicotine at some range and just being in proximity with the chemical causes irritation to the nose... "Nose hit" for lack of a better word.

I have also heard that alcohol added to e-juice adds throat hit, but I can only assume that you've tried this out and found it lacking. I find it hard to imagine that alcohol adds a good quality throat irritation to the juice.

Racking my brain, I am trying to think of another additive which will cause topical "pain" when vaporised, yet remain "mostly harmless". It would need to have a boiling point of around 160 to 240 degrees celcius to maintain a volatility similar to the other e-liquid ingredients.

Any suggestion?
 

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I see exactly what you mean, by the spiciness being unsuitable.

At the risk of going off-topic, I am wondering what would provide a similar experience without being overly toxic.

Obviously cigarettes impart throat hit as they contain noxious chemicals and oxidised compounds which aggrivate the throat.

Nicotine also provides a similar throat hit as it is a noxious, poisonous chemical. I have personally smelled pure nicotine at some range and just being in proximity with the chemical causes irritation to the nose... "Nose hit" for lack of a better word.

Yeah, I understand that feeling. The same thing happens to me with extremely pungent smells like vinegar.

I have also heard that alcohol added to e-juice adds throat hit, but I can only assume that you've tried this out and found it lacking. I find it hard to imagine that alcohol adds a good quality throat irritation to the juice.

You are correct. The problem here is that many people conflate any sensation imparted by an ingredient beyond flavour with throat hit, which is why some people say menthols or alcohol give throat hit, but they don't, not in the way nicotine gives a throat hit. Alcohol just gives a warming sensation in the same way drinking it does, except it delivers it to your lungs instead of down the esophagus, just as menthols give a cooling sensation. In fact, I find menthols actually mitigate some of the nicotine throat hit because they tend to numb the throat a bit against the irritation of nicotine (or cigarettes in general) on the way down. Alcohol I think is really only useful for imparting that alcoholic warmth to boozy drink flavours for a more authentic experience.

Racking my brain, I am trying to think of another additive which will cause topical "pain" when vaporised, yet remain "mostly harmless". It would need to have a boiling point of around 160 to 240 degrees celcius to maintain a volatility similar to the other e-liquid ingredients.

Any suggestion?

I've yet to think of any myself. Not only does it have to have a high boiling point and be mostly harmless, it also should be mostly tasteless, too, so that it can be mixed with ingredients without influencing the flavour. Kind of like picking a needle out of a haystack. Supposedly there's a "natural" E-liquid out there that contains no nicotine yet imparts a throat hit, and it contains ingredients like liquefied corn husk and such, but I'd wager there's some capsaicin in there too, and will probably end up being much like FlavourArt's Flash, which also tastes like it has some kind of grassy ingredients along with a bit of capsaicin.
 

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right now, i'm thinking caffeine... I'll order some caffeine powder from an amino acid supply company now and try it out

Might be interesting, though I'm not sure if it would offer throat hit. But then again I have absolutely no idea what it would be like so I can't say. Let me know how it works out. :)
 

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Mission fail!

It gives you a nice head-rush and an interesting "buzz", but caffeine isn't noxious enough to produce throat hit when used at around 10mg/ml. I can't imagine it getting better with higher concentrations, either.

Oh well. It was worth a try I suppose. Plus, you've got some caffeine if you wanted to add some to a juice. :)
 
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