"Vapors Tongue"?

[trav901]

I'm still new to vaping, but not new to quitting analogs. I'm in wk 2 of my current quit. My taste and smell haven't completely returned yet, but I can tell a big difference in taste between vaping juice and analogs. If it was me, I'd quit vaping for a while and not smoke, then see if taste comes back. Before trying that, you could try switching juice brands if you haven't yet to something high quality that you can trust the ingredients are what they say they are. No made in China junk juice. Btw, I agree that we need to be able to trust that what we're putting into our bodies is safe (or at least safer than analogs).

 

[VV_James]

Also you can trying to BRUSH (not scrub) your tongue a few times each day and use an antibacterial mouthwash frequently.
A daily ORAL Peroxide rinse would not go amiss either (just ask the pharmacist, they will show you what to get)

Vapor's Tongue is sometimes a type of THRUSH which is a form of yeast infection. It's easily dealt with, using the above methods...
cut back on the sugars, and increase the acidics yeast hates that... also drink a LOT of water! Hydrate the hell out of yourself!

If you don't need to pee, you're not drinking enough.

It helps!

 

[Oomee]

Don't even get me started on the coughing stuff...its like getting cut. You bleed because its your body's way of clotting because being cut is not normal. Neither is coughing or "getting use to vaping so you cough" or losing your sense of taste.

Well yes you do bleed when cut , look at this example for a while .

You bleed , off course you were cut .
Then the scab is replaced wit fibrous scar tissue .
the scar tissue pulls tight closing the wound site , which then itches .
The scar tissue is replace slowly with the correct type of cells over time , notable by the slow time taken for a colour match .
During mist of this process the unneeded tissue falls from the body .

Now if you were not aware of cuts on the body(hypothetical) , you might post "Since I started mountain biking , my bed is filled with lots of pieces of skin" .
This never happened before mountain biking and thus that is the cause .

As you cannot see the repair being undertaken to your tastebuds then you are becoming alarmed at the process .

A possibility !

 

[XeniaMike]

It goes away. Had a bout that lasted a few days early on, but never since and it's going on 9 months. I even still have an occasional cigarette with no ill effects.

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Could it be the nic gum? When I tried quitting using that, my sense of taste got worse. The gum might be exacerbating the vapor's tongue issue, and the tongue thing happens to everybody. It does pass, but it seems like it's ... taking ... for ... frickin' ever.

Try a lollipop instead, or some now n' laters, or jolly ranchers. Something that doesn't throw a strong dose of nicotine at already confused tastebuds. That's what vapor's tongue really is, after all. It's one of the five senses that's totally confused right now and doesn't know what to do.

 

[wrath186]

What about a salt water gargle? My mother swears by them for when she has colds. Maybe the salt can open the pores in the tongue and reset things.

 

[james chapman]

I thought Vapors Tongue was a myth. I heard of it when I first started vaping,but in 2.5 years have never had it and I vape all day long,as I am retired. One thing I do and have for years,is brush my teeth with baking soda and salt,I also brush my tongue. In the AM,I use one of the 3 flavors,of Toms natural toothpaste I have. This is one of the positive side effects I have had,since quitting smoking,a drawer full of toothpastes and teethbetweens,floss. I know an OCD,but my mom,was a Dental Hygienist. Anyway try the baking soda and sea salt.

 

[The Ocelot]

You might find this article helpful: Taste Buds and Vaper's Tongue

ETA: I couldn't fully taste any flavors other than menthol or mints for 2 months when I started vaping. Sometimes I would get a little of something else, but it didn't last long. I still can't taste many of the subtle flavors or they taste like plastic. For "variety" I often vape unflavored now, since I don't make myself nuts trying to taste something - I actually quite like it.

 

[VV_James]

I thought Vapors Tongue was a myth. I heard of it when I first started vaping,but in 2.5 years have never had it and I vape all day long,as I am retired. One thing I do and have for years,is brush my teeth with baking soda and salt,I also brush my tongue. In the AM,I use one of the 3 flavors,of Toms natural toothpaste I have. This is one of the positive side effects I have had,since quitting smoking,a drawer full of toothpastes and teethbetweens,floss. I know an OCD,but my mom,was a Dental Hygienist. Anyway try the baking soda and sea salt.

Good advice!

 

[The Ocelot]

I'm still new to vaping, but not new to quitting analogs. I'm in wk 2 of my current quit. My taste and smell haven't completely returned yet, but I can tell a big difference in taste between vaping juice and analogs. If it was me, I'd quit vaping for a while and not smoke, then see if taste comes back. Before trying that, you could try switching juice brands if you haven't yet to something high quality that you can trust the ingredients are what they say they are. No made in China junk juice. Btw, I agree that we need to be able to trust that what we're putting into our bodies is safe (or at least safer than analogs).

Just a couple of points to clarify: not too long ago, juices from China were all that was available. Keep in mind that mistakes or contamination can happen during any step of production, and, you may recall, China executed 2 executives following the 2008 Milk Scandal. Another was sentenced to death, but it was suspended and 3 more were given life sentences. Would that happen in the US?

I don't vape imported liquids, since I can't customize the pg/vg ratio, but if I could and I liked the flavor, I wouldn't have a problem with it. That's just my perspective, I'm not pushing Chinese juices, I'm only trying to get people to think about things.

E-liquid is e-liquid; pg/vg and flavorings, it doesn't matter where it comes from. If you do a little research (which I did for one of my long Rawrs), you'll find some interesting facts. US e-liquid retailers buy their ingredients from suppliers, who buy them from wholesale companies, who buy them from brokers, who buy them from manufacturers, who get the raw materials from...uh, oh. Guess where we are? Back in Asia! Do you really think LorAnn has a farm in New Guinea where they grow their own vanilla beans?

 

[Rocketpunk]

I know what he works at..... That's pretty much why I said that.

This could be very true. Whenever people ask us, "Does the vapor stink?" I always ask them, "We've been vaping in here all day. Did you smell anything?" and everyone almost always says "It smells good in here".

There's four to five us all vaping different flavors, many with very strong scents. And that's not including people crowding around the tasting bars.

That's probably it, Robino!

 

[skyztheLynnit]

Guess where we are? Back in Asia! Do you really think LorAnn has a farm in New Guinea where they grow their own vanilla beans?

You should really do your homework. LorAnn is my aunt and she has SEVERAL farms in New Guinea. Her sister-in-law, Bobby Lou, has a coffee plantation in Peru where the extract their coffee flavoring. They also use cricket feces to flavor their custard. I get so tired of the misinformation on here.. sigh..

And remember OP.. Biotene and Dairy is the devil.

 

[The Ocelot]

You should really do your homework. LorAnn is my aunt and she has SEVERAL farms in New Guinea. Her sister-in-law, Bobby Lou, has a coffee plantation in Peru where the extract their coffee flavoring. They also use cricket feces to flavor their custard. I get so tired of the misinformation on here.. sigh..

And remember OP.. Biotene and Dairy is the devil.

Your aunt has some 'splainin to do. This is from one of my previous Rwars:

"[Using the] example of massoia lactone (coconut flavor), prior to it being synthesized (which a chemist, or more likely a team of chemists, had to isolate at some point), the primary ingredient was derived from the bark of the Massoia tree (Cryptocaria massoia) that is found in Papua, Indonesia. What are the chances LorAnn employees were in Papua chopping down trees or that they currently have a farm in New Guinea where they grow the '...premium Tahitian vanilla beans from New Guinea' used in their '2-Fold Tahitian Vanilla' flavor? Notably, 'Tahitian' must be a strain of vanilla bean, since Tahiti is about 60,000 miles from New Guinea (by air)."

Now go vape your Throat Yogurt, you obviously need more dairy in your life. VapeSyndicate | Throat Yogurt

 

[SissySpike]

You should really do your homework. LorAnn is my aunt and she has SEVERAL farms in New Guinea. Her sister-in-law, Bobby Lou, has a coffee plantation in Peru where the extract their coffee flavoring. They also use cricket feces to flavor their custard. I get so tired of the misinformation on here.. sigh..

And remember OP.. Biotene and Dairy is the devil.

Thats why they say custard is not good for you! I always wondered thanks for the info skyztheLynnit Im off to tell everyone;-)

 

[skyztheLynnit]

Thats why they say custard is not good for you! I always wondered thanks for the info skyztheLynnit Im off to tell everyone;-)

Thanks for spreading the truth buzz..

(In all seriousness an interesting tidbit about the beaver's castor sacs aka sacks of gross crap near the beaver's doody hole.
"While it is mainly used in both foods and beverages as part of a substitute vanilla flavour, [11] it is less commonly used as a part of a raspberry or strawberry flavoring."

Castoreum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
)

 

[SissySpike]

Thanks for spreading the truth buzz..

(In all seriousness an interesting tidbit about the beaver's castor sacs aka sacks of gross crap near the beaver's doody hole.
"While it is mainly used in both foods and beverages as part of a substitute vanilla flavour, [11] it is less commonly used as a part of a raspberry or strawberry flavoring."

Castoreum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
)

We eat all kinds of weird stuff and just don't know it. I think if it taste good who cares where it came from or what it is.

 

[The Ocelot]

I didn't know about civet coffee until recently. Some mean member was trying to make me believe they used ocelots.

The stuff in food is just awful! I went to the store the other day for a can of cat hair and bug parts and every single one had tuna in it!

 

[VV_James]

You should really do your homework. LorAnn is my aunt and she has SEVERAL farms in New Guinea. Her sister-in-law, Bobby Lou, has a coffee plantation in Peru where the extract their coffee flavoring. They also use cricket feces to flavor their custard. I get so tired of the misinformation on here.. sigh..

And remember OP.. Biotene and Dairy is the devil.

What's wrong with a little cricket feces?
Fish love it, they eat the crickets, and then fornicate in the water, and then we DRINK the water! the way I see it, it's unavoidable regardless of what you eat, drink, or vape!

 

[RobinBanks]

Hey Angie,

Hang in there. I just got through 2 solid weeks (well, 13 days) of Vaper's Tongue. I know how hard it makes quitting and how unsatisfying it is! Huge disappointment. My suggestion for juice in the meantime would be "Arctic Wolf" menthol from Vapor God. Very powerful. I could taste their Hot Cinnamon too, but I didn't really like vaping hot stuff. Those were the only things I could get a sensation from. Everything else tasted like nothing.

I got it after only one week of vaping, I have good oral hygiene and was drinking water. I could taste food, but it was kind of muted (noticed I was putting more sweetener in my coffee).

I tried alllll of the remedies I could find online... pickles, spicy food, biotene, etc. Nothing made a lick of a difference that I can tell. I gave up on all that and just kept drinking lots of water and brushing my tongue since those are good practices regardless.

Suddenly on the last night of it I noticed I began tasting a generalized "sweetness", though I couldn't detect flavor beyond "sweet". The next day .. BAM.. flavor was back full force. I am enjoying myself SO MUCH this week ever since it came back. everything is like OMG THIS TASTES AMAZING!!

I'm no scientist but in the midst of my frustration I read a lot about what taste buds are and how they work. The cells and nerves in our taste buds need to regenerate. Cells regenerate rather quickly but nerves can take up to 2 weeks! They regenerate and die off at different rates. We need all that stuff to be working right at the same time in order to taste things correctly. Why it happens when we vape.. I don't know, but I'd like to!

Hang in there. It does go away and when it does everything tastes so good!

Edit: Also, some people say no sugar. I don't eat sugar. (I eat maybe a total of 20 grams a day via vegetables, but that's it). So, sugar can't be a cause of vaper's tongue. I can't say that cutting back won't help, but sugar definitely doesn't cause it and not eating it doesn't make it go away.

 

[Whosback]

You might find this article helpful: Taste Buds and Vaper's Tongue

ETA: I couldn't fully taste any flavors other than menthol or mints for 2 months when I started vaping. Sometimes I would get a little of something else, but it didn't last long. I still can't taste many of the subtle flavors or they taste like plastic. For "variety" I often vape unflavored now, since I don't make myself nuts trying to taste something - I actually quite like it.

I was the same way for a while.I only could really enjoy menthol for a while. There are still some flavors that don't hit me fully yet.

We eat all kinds of weird stuff and just don't know it. I think if it taste good who cares where it came from or what it is.

Hey Panda meat is still MEAT!

To the OP. It might just be a matter of playing with flavors to hit your stride or even your nic level.

A good example is me and my lady love Lady Pancake She vapes 36 mil and I vape 12. I can't handle her stuff and even vaping for months like me she can't really taste my juice at 12 mil.

There are several factors to consider before you consider vaping to be a hazard to your health. You are lie the wise Robin said trying to get flavor from something that's carried by air, not food. Keep at it and I am sure you will work something out of find a way through your flavor dilemma.

I hope this helps and you continue to stay off ....-logs.