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I was thinking the exact same thing when I read these responses. It seems to me that hitting the temp limit will cause the device to simply hold that max temp thereby giving you max vapor at the sweet spot you selected. As long as you're wicking properly you should get max vapor/performance for as long as you draw.

Perhaps the nomenclature has confused folks, or perhaps I'm confused and it doesn't work that way. I'm a black friday order so I have to wait to start playing. :)

Yes - I second this. Barring the board failing to properly read temperature, increasing the temp control may not be the best solution. Assuming the board is working as it should, and you have set a temperature limit to prevent a toxic byproduct of incineration, you guys might want to check reworking the build, wicking, airflow, your draw, etc. When I get my DNA40, I will set it to 410-450ish and rework other variables to prevent hitting TP.

I am curious though - are you guys seeing charred wicks or tasting any flavor drop off when you crank up the temperature limiter?
 

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It seems like some of you aren't understanding the purpose of temperature limiting. You are supposed to set the limit of the temp as your ceiling and that keeps the vape consistent and keeps the wick from burning. It's supposed to hit the limit but you guys are acting like that's a bad thing and just turning it up. That negates all benefits of the temp limiter.

You're treating it like a kanthal build in a regular mod and that's not how it was designed to operate.

Thanks for that. Although I do know how TP is supposed to work, the fact that it was kicking in at 450 with a .3ohm coil at only 12 watts doesn't seem right somehow? Thoughts?

I think setting it at 500 is defeating the purpose but my comment was simply that TP did kick in a lot at 450 but not at all at 500, on a pre-made coil (and that it's not the same for Ni coils I've made myself). I hope that makes sense.
 

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Thanks for that. Although I do know how TP is supposed to work, the fact that it was kicking in at 450 with a .3ohm coil at only 12 watts doesn't seem right somehow? Thoughts?

I think setting it at 500 is defeating the purpose but my comment was simply that TP did kick in a lot at 450 but not at all at 500, on a pre-made coil (and that it's not the same for Ni coils I've made myself). I hope that makes sense.

In my short experience with the dna40, if TP is kicking that early it leads me to believe its an issue with the build/510 connection. My first few attempts at ni200 builds resulted in TP kicking in early. Once I got my build solid...checked to make sure post screws were tight, etc....TP wouldn't kick in on anything lower than 30 watts. Keep in mind this is on a kayfun too and I have TP set at 420. Might want to look into your 510 post as well....I was having some issues with the russian and I tightened up the 510 pin and my build was smooth sailing after that.
 

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In my short experience with the dna40, if TP is kicking that early it leads me to believe its an issue with the build/510 connection. My first few attempts at ni200 builds resulted in TP kicking in early. Once I got my build solid...checked to make sure post screws were tight, etc....TP wouldn't kick in on anything lower than 30 watts. Keep in mind this is on a kayfun too and I have TP set at 420. Might want to look into your 510 post as well....I was having some issues with the russian and I tightened up the 510 pin and my build was smooth sailing after that.

I agree in terms of rebuildable coils, but this in reference to the pre-made Aspire TSC Ni Atomizers. I'm not sure why they perform differently but that seems to be the general experience.
 

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I agree in terms of rebuildable coils, but this in reference to the pre-made Aspire TSC Ni Atomizers. I'm not sure why they perform differently but that seems to be the general experience.

My fault....I didn't realize your were talking about pre-built coils. I have yet to try them and probably won't....i gave up on pre-built coils a while back. Very strange that it is doing that though.
 

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Freakin bingo Snapdragon!!!!

Folks we are talking two differnt animals here. Do not confuse TSC heads and coils that you build!!


I agree in terms of rebuildable coils, but this in reference to the pre-made Aspire TSC Ni Atomizers. I'm not sure why they perform differently but that seems to be the general experience.
 

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The topper isn't what's important here. You have to know how to use the temp limiting and set it so that it prevents wick burning and ingesting other harmful chemicals.

My main concern is seeing multiple people turning up the temp limiter because it's kicking on and doing it's job. Some people are finding the flashing annoying and just turning it up so it stops.

People are stuck on the "watt" thing and don't realize they aren't getting any more vapor or flavor just because the watts are higher. It's just burning the juice and wick. The temp is what you should be concerned with and that's what will vaporize juice at a constant, consistent rate without burning everything. Of course, you have to dial in that temp to your wick type and juice.

You can use it just like a kanthal build but you're losing out on all the benefits of this new technology. I just figured I'd shed a little light on this since a lot of people are not understanding how to use it, apparently.
 

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I agree in terms of rebuildable coils, but this in reference to the pre-made Aspire TSC Ni Atomizers. I'm not sure why they perform differently but that seems to be the general experience.

The Nautilus BVC Kanthal coils were never that great on wicking (you could chain vape them to dry hit) I think with the wicking limitations of the coil hitting TP often will just be the norm. It's just letting you vape to it's limit without burning.
 

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The topper isn't what's important here. You have to know how to use the temp limiting and set it so that it prevents wick burning and ingesting other harmful chemicals.

My main concern is seeing multiple people turning up the temp limiter because it's kicking on and doing it's job. Some people are finding the flashing annoying and just turning it up so it stops.

People are stuck on the "watt" thing and don't realize they aren't getting any more vapor or flavor just because the watts are higher. It's just burning the juice and wick. The temp is what you should be concerned with and that's what will vaporize juice at a constant, consistent rate without burning everything. Of course, you have to dial in that temp to your wick type and juice.

You can use it just like a kanthal build but you're losing out on all the benefits of this new technology. I just figured I'd shed a little light on this since a lot of people are not understanding how to use it, apparently.

This^^

I think you are spot on as well as a few others. The TP feature is there to help, not hinder the experience.

Don't want to burn your wick? Find out what the temp is for that and set your TP. Find yourself not satisfied and believe you hit TP too quickly? Check your wicking because evidently your juice is not keeping it saturated enough therefore hitting TP because your wick is starting to burn!

Is your resistance dancing all over the place? You probably have a connection issue. Check your build, check your 510 pin.

Lots of things to check and double check. Lots of things to try and adjust!

This is new and lots to take in but oh how it works when it's dialed in boy!!
 

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This^^

I think you are spot on as well as a few others. The TP feature is there to help, not hinder the experience.

Don't want to burn your wick? Find out what the temp is for that and set your TP. Find yourself not satisfied and believe you hit TP too quickly? Check your wicking because evidently your juice is not keeping it saturated enough therefore hitting TP because your wick is starting to burn!

Is your resistance dancing all over the place? You probably have a connection issue. Check your build, check your 510 pin.

Lots of things to check and double check. Lots of things to try and adjust!

This is new and lots to take in but oh how it works when it's dialed in boy!!

Dead on brother!
 

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The Nautilus BVC Kanthal coils were never that great on wicking (you could chain vape them to dry hit) I think with the wicking limitations of the coil hitting TP often will just be the norm. It's just letting you vape to it's limit without burning.

I have to say that personally I've never had an issue with the BVC coils wicking at all, every coil I've ever used has worked flawlessly actually. About 10 mins in to the use of one of the BVC coils I really think the flavor is some of the best I've had, that includes Kayfuns. Unfortunately the coils don't last a really long time but when I want a reliable hassle free vape, I will definitely use a BVC. Never had a Nautilus Mini flood or leak on me. I'm not a chain vaper either but I don't think any production coils could really hold up to long stretches of chain vaping, I could be wrong and I haven't tried the new coils yet but just sharing my experience with the BVC heads. For what they are and how they perform, I really like them as an alternate to my Kayfun's.
 

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So, I rarely see TP with the Ni coils I've built myself .13ohm/11- 12w/400deg is exactly what I was after and makes me think I've found a good balance.

But with the pre-made Aspire TSC heads there's nothing to adjust. At .3ohm/11 - 12w/400, 450, 470deg the ohms have stayed rock-steady but TP flashes way too soon. Although it doesn't 'feel' like there's a problem with wicking, could it be anything else?
 
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end of next week? boo. where u get that info from?

@alicewonderland ~ Q always manages to get the best info.


Q~ As always- thank you!!!! This means I can stop checking my order & start again next week. :lol:
 
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