Vegetable glycerin, Palm glycerin, Soy glycerin?
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Thanks, retired. 
Wasn't sure where to get the most discussion and answers.
Wasn't sure where to get the most discussion and answers. 
Although there are other sources, I think most vg is either palm or soy. I've only tasted those two, and I can't tell any difference, but I have read some posts claiming palm is better tasting.
Thanks, JD.
Last Decl. I ordered from Essential Depot the two gal. pack (1gal pg, 1 gal vg). The vg was labeled as Veg. Glycerin. Very happy with taste.
Just got in another two gal. order, but the label has "Derived from Palm" which does NOT say on their web site for this particular item.
Noticed that ED introduced Soy glycerin this past April, and so this post.
Last Decl. I ordered from Essential Depot the two gal. pack (1gal pg, 1 gal vg). The vg was labeled as Veg. Glycerin. Very happy with taste.
Just got in another two gal. order, but the label has "Derived from Palm" which does NOT say on their web site for this particular item.
Noticed that ED introduced Soy glycerin this past April, and so this post.
The one you got last is the same as the new Before they stated "palm" specifically, it was also palm and they've used the same source for over 5 years they state(for palm - The soy is a new source; ADM from the US, the other is probably from indonisia or malaysia where most palm is from).
No matter palm or soy-derived, it's fine. In europe, almost all VG is from rapeseed(non-GMO), btw...
In flavored juices you won't be able to tell a difference in blind-testings... Some VGs, no matter source-feedstock-used, can have a very slight taste difference compared to others, but it's firstly very slight, so you need a good palette to pick it up, and second, you only can tell when vaping it unflavored...
In short, use whatever you like... As ED themselves state on there site, then the soy offering is the best deal, but use whatever makes you happy... The active element of VG is glycerol, and glycerol is the same no matter which vegetable oil it comes from, and it's 99.7% pure min usually and the rest is water...
Before they stated "palm" specifically, it was also palm and they've used the same source for over 5 years they state(for palm - The soy is a new source; ADM from the US, the other is probably from indonisia or malaysia where most palm is from).No matter palm or soy-derived, it's fine. In europe, almost all VG is from rapeseed(non-GMO), btw...
In flavored juices you won't be able to tell a difference in blind-testings... Some VGs, no matter source-feedstock-used, can have a very slight taste difference compared to others, but it's firstly very slight, so you need a good palette to pick it up, and second, you only can tell when vaping it unflavored...
In short, use whatever you like... As ED themselves state on there site, then the soy offering is the best deal, but use whatever makes you happy... The active element of VG is glycerol, and glycerol is the same no matter which vegetable oil it comes from, and it's 99.7% pure min usually and the rest is water...
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I use palm based and am very satisfied with no plans to try anything else. Haven't tried soy, but from what I've been told, soy will be US sourced and GMO (hence a bit cheaper), if that makes a difference to you.
Yes, VG from indonisia and malaysia use obviously palm as it's locally available in abundance(though they also use soy at times there I know atleast from one place), but in US and europe they can just as well use cheaper local feedstock, since which used doesn't matter anyway, than to import palm oil from e.g. malaysia for there glycerin production. Also some state to do it for the deforestation-issues, which possibly is true and not just about the money...
As i've stated before, several VG makers use different feedstock, as the price of raw material changes from crop to crop and time of year, e.g. bulk-apothecary gets either palm or soy from there supplier, varying from batch to batch and a local VG maker in my country states they and many others do the same...
Personally, if I could choose and the price was comparable, then I would also choose palm, but honestly, it's not really based on anything logical I must admit As said, glycerol is glycerol and there's no soy in soy-glycerin...
As i've stated before, several VG makers use different feedstock, as the price of raw material changes from crop to crop and time of year, e.g. bulk-apothecary gets either palm or soy from there supplier, varying from batch to batch and a local VG maker in my country states they and many others do the same...
Personally, if I could choose and the price was comparable, then I would also choose palm, but honestly, it's not really based on anything logical I must admit
As said, glycerol is glycerol and there's no soy in soy-glycerin...
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Nope, doesn't make any difference to me on price, jambi. Just was interested to see if any difference between any of them and why. Thank you.
mhertz, then what I'm gathering from your info is that there is NO difference in resulting product from what vg is made and all can be handled the same......Cool!
mhertz, then what I'm gathering from your info is that there is NO difference in resulting product from what vg is made and all can be handled the same......Cool!
I too noticed - if you were buying 55-gallon drums from Essential Depot, then you get to choose Soy or Palm.
LOL.
I've been real happy with whichever it is they sent me...
from Essential Depot, then you get to choose Soy or Palm.LOL.
I've been real happy with whichever it is they sent me...
Lots of people buying from there, so didn't pay too much attention last Dec. about what it was made from. It just came as vegetable glycerin......and I was happy, Train.
In general then all USP/EP VG is the same no matter which feedstock derived from, meaning it is entirelly or almost consisting of glycerol and water. However, the USP/EP monographs allows very low amounts of residual fatty acids and esters left. The fatty acids are the rest of the veg-oils when the glycerol has been distilled out. One VG I saw had 0.004(I think it's in percentage, but honestly don't know for sure), but for all practises and purposse, it's generally stated that VG/glycerin is only glycerol and water.
There are very slight taste-variations between some VGs and I don't know if it's because of the above or something else...
There are very slight taste-variations between some VGs and I don't know if it's because of the above or something else...
Bunches of info there, mhertz. Good to know. BTW my father's paternal side moved from Hjerpsted to Chicago in the 1870's.
Good to know. BTW my father's paternal side moved from Hjerpsted to Chicago in the 1870's. - Status
