Vent Holes On Mods

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Yup. Nice little pipe bomb.

I've read a few posts about that. Get out your drill. I'm sure someone will be along to say something different. I don't care what they say. Get out your drill.

I'm lost of words. I really like my SB too. An the last thing I want is a pipe bomb. I just can't believe vendor would sell products with out taken the proper safety precautions. But would drilling a hole on the bottom mess up my warranty? An it says when drilling a hole it should be 2mm diameter. What size drill bit is that? Sorry I don't mess with power tools that often.
 

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wouldnt a sealed riva battery be just as dangerous as a mod without a vent hole?
2mm is roughly 5/64 so you need a 5/64 drill bit, this is a very small drill bit so be carefull when your drilling, using a clamp or something to hold your pv down because the more you can hold it in place the easier it is not to break the drill bit
 

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I know the SB is a good PV but I am glad I never bought it. With the reo you have the bottle hole which leaves enough air circulation and with the Precise you don't get vent holes (unless you request it) but you can always send it back and David makes you the vent holes. I have not clue how the guys from SB handle these things but I am assuming it's not that easy.

Then again I am sure you get enough input from people (and CS if you email them) that will guide you along the way to drill a hole yourself. If the SB wasn't that big I would have bought one a long time ago I heard SOO many good things about this PV and I am sure you will be able to drill a hole in it and keep your warranty. If CS says you will lose your warranty just give them a hard time and be like "so you want me the customer to get hurt" I am sure you will work something out.
 

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Many people will have an anecdote or analogy to share and I do too. I live on the Gulf Coast in Florida and am used to hurricane warnings. Most don't pan out but you always prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

A few years back before I was disabled, a hurricane warning was given for my area and I was busy boarding up my house. A fairly new home owner to the area and neighbor of mine said to me he had watched me slave over the task I was performing for the 3rd time already that year.

He asked me why I went to the trouble when I had to have insurance and the chances of getting a hit was so unlikely. I smiled and explained to him that since he mentioned insurance, you don't wait until the fire department is on the way to put out what is left of your house to try and call an insurance agent for fire insurance.

He laughed and walked away. As it turned out, the storm didn't hit but if it had, I had done all I could to protect my family and our belongings. As to vent holes? You may never have a problem and that is only one type of "insurance". I suspect that like Dspin has said, I will get flamed to high heavens for saying all this but like any other problem you can encounter in life, you never know when you turn out to be that one unlucky guy in a thousand.

No matter what the product or situation is, there is a big difference between paranoia and common sense. There are too many things in this life we have no control over that can harm us. When there is something that we can do to enhance our safety, my only question is not why but rather why NOT take the step or precaution? :)
 
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I'm lost of words. I really like my SB too. An the last thing I want is a pipe bomb. I just can't believe vendor would sell products with out taken the proper safety precautions. But would drilling a hole on the bottom mess up my warranty? An it says when drilling a hole it should be 2mm diameter. What size drill bit is that? Sorry I don't mess with power tools that often.

A 2mm .0787" bit is pretty small, it's used a lot by jewelers and pretty easy to find. You can get them on Ebay, Amazon and various places online. Not sure about local, I doubt the local home stores....HD or Lowes would carry them but don't know for sure.

It would be very easy to do if you if you've got a press to keep it steady. You could also use a Dremel but be very careful about it jumping around marring up the finish.

I wouldn't think it would effect the warranty if you emailed them and told them why you were doing it but I'd definitely get approval from the company before you did it so you'll have it in writing and if you're lucky they may offer to do it for you.
 

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3- 3mm holes were drilled on the P18 - here's a pic of my Precise P18 that I requested drilled when ordered, some people don't like the looks of the holes - are you looking at it or vaping it.

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Here's a pic of the SS GGTS - look at bottom, vent holes all around - 12 small ones

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wouldnt a sealed riva battery be just as dangerous as a mod without a vent hole?

If you look at the bottom of a Riva or eGo batt, you'll notice the bottom is a separate piece. The bottom will blow out of it if there is a catastrophic battery failure. - At least one would hope. I've seen a go-go batt that had a catastrophic failure during a charge cycle. The casing bulged but luckily didn't explode.

When a battery blows up, it isn't all that spectacular by itself. Put it in a sealed metal tube, and all bets are off. The pressure has to go somewhere and there's no telling where it will go.

Before you mangle your SB or send it back contact Chad the maker of the SB, he's here on the ecf. I do believe that the switch is the vent hole.

The switch is indeed the weak point on the SB and one would hope that's where the pressure would vent in such circumstances. Of course, I'd be a lot happier as a user if the venting was designed to blow 100% away from my face and no where near any of my digits. -- And two or more holes are better than one. What if part of the venting battery blocks a hole or blocks the best path to get to a hole? A spring sitting on top of at least two vent holes is the best bet for safety in the event of that kind of a failure.
 
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well this blows.. i jus bought the SB literally earlier this morning

now i gotta return it =[ sigh, after so much research too lol


You still made a good choice the sb is a great device from what I heard. Taking a drill to drill a hole into a metal tube ain't a big deal as long as you know where to drill
 

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As others have said, the folks that make the SB are easy to work with (per testmonials, not personal experience). If they don't have a route through them to get it vented, you have other options. I live in a very small tourist and military town. Translation, not a lot of variety but...

Even in a small town, machinists are needed. Even a skilled hobbyist will likely have or have access to, a variable speed drill press. These have the drilling portion adjustable for angles but are drilling downward in their normal postions. They also have vice-like blocks for securing almost any object or finish to prevent it from squirming around while you're working with it.

Two of the three SB colors are platings but that is also where the variable speed comes in. Since the item is strongly secured against movement, other places on the tubing or cap wont get marred from retention. Obviously you will want to mark your target before drilling and after measuring. Even with plating, a slow speed to start the procedure will initiate the hole as a guide then high speed to make the actual hole.

Sounds complicated but it's not. If you don't have a machine shop available, check for any place that does firearms repair or customization. They will have one most likely. Bottom line is it isn't that big of an operation and if you have someone you trust or feel comfortable with, use them. And as to the drill press, I speak from experience.

I was a law enforcement officer for 27 years and have been a firearms fan most of my life. I literally worked on the weapons that I and other officers depended on to save ours and others lives. The only reason I am having the maker of my Precise P-18 do my venting is he is a consumate professional and he includes such options in his lifetime warranty. I also have a spinal injury now so I wouldn't try to drill a hole in a block of wood. :laugh:

Just don't stress over it. You asked for feedback and you have heard from some true e-cig vets like Dspin and others. You bought a fine PV and when you finish adding the vent holes, no matter who does it, you'll have a fine PV with an extra measure of safety. :)
 
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for the silver bullet i got linked here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/altsmoke/133563-silver-bullet-vented.html

so i guess it is vented? if this is incorrect please let me know

That's why so many have suggested contacting the maker/vendor. From what I see in the link (I don't have a SB to inspect), referring to the switch as the vent would refer to what others have posted in this thread: The button by design is supposed to pop off in a catastrophic battery failure. That is also like a protected battery that has a circuit that is supposed to shut the battery down when it senses a critical error. If that was 100% fail-safe then nothing else would be suggested or used.

But nothing is fail safe. Even vent holes are just a measure to provide you with some time as the gasses would go through the vent holes and relieve the pressure to hopefully prevent a true explosion. As already also posted, you have to be satisfied with the level of security that brings peace of mind. When you reach that level, using it will be no different really than driving a car but only in the respect that we do the best we can but realize that traffic accidents still occur even to the safest driver.

Beyond the advice the vets have given (I am still a noob! :) ), you have to be the judge of what is enough and hopefully, not let it become an obsession to the point it ruins the vaping experience for you. When you used to smoke analogs before going to bed or leaving your home, you made sure the butts were out. But you didn't hose the ash tray with a garden hose or sit and watch it for an hour. That's all I am referring to with you being satisfied with the measures you have and are taking. :)
 
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