'venting' (no pun intended)

[wizardofozone]

You get into reloading your own bullets it's a fact you really want to be super careful and get some serious instruction. Want to hang glide ? Even more serious study and listening to an instructor, and on and on .... but there is also 'glorification' by some teachers .... I tried a small test with a new uwell crown rbd deck ... I stared at the finished wire and wick in a SILENCED utube instructional ... I never heard a word, just watched the process .. Then I avoided doing any of the complicated gyrations several did in several videos ... all I can say is take some instructionals with a grain of salt ... I pulled the wick through a quickly break in fired coil, common sense shows that too long a drop down wick will not allow the rba to close ... cotton that isn't pillowed neatly against the squarish vent holes is an obvious clue you've done it wrong.
Ohm reading way off .25 with the wire and cotton from the kit is an obvious caution ... slapped it all together and beautiful clouds, smooth flavor, no problems .... I swear that if one listens to these instructors too carefully one will always be afraid to get deeper into vape techniques ... I watched these instructors recut cotton, pack in 3 different ways, twist and retwist cotton, fluff and refluff till they looked more like beginners than I was ... Jump into a deck if you want and don't let too many instructions scare you ... of course wire gauge and ohms law is critical, but an RBA that's just a complete self contained kit is easy to do.

 

[crxess]

Don't forget though - individuality and experience.

The more you know the further you go.

The further you go.............the Better your experience.

Take your time and advance as you are comfortable.

Most of all..................Enjoy the Vape while we can.

 

[kbeam418]

Well if you're using regulated ohm's law doesn't really matter.

 

[wizardofozone]

Well if you're using regulated ohm's law doesn't really matter.

Since I don't know who I'm speaking to I didn't want to just burn every procedure or device off as if instruction wasn't important ... I also want everyone to understand that the Uwell RBA in this kit form is safe .... I mention Ohms to be certain I'm not being flippant about how needed SOME instructions are for some self build procedures totally 'scratch' from the start, unlike the Crown RBS which is equal to a boxed cake mix.

 

[Baditude]

In a sense, what the OP says is true. Personally speaking, I was a latecomer to rebuilding because I wasn't sure that I completely understood Ohm's Law or what all was involved with rebuilding coils. It all seemed over my head.

However, curiosity got the better of me because I read how much better the vape was with rebuildables, and also how much cheaper in the long run rebuilding was. I'm so glad that I took the plunge. The difference in vape quality as well as cost savings is night and day.

I still believe that knowledge is power, and safer. There are no shortcuts to be taken with a mechanical mod and rebuilding, especially if you are sub-ohming. You still need to know the true amp limit of your battery. You don't really need to understand Ohm's Law, you just need to know how to work an Ohm's Law calculator. And you must measure the ohms of your coil with a metering device before firing the coil. Making a coil and wicking it is pretty easy after watching a few videos and practicing the skills for yourself.

 

[Kprthevapr]

Well if you're using regulated ohm's law doesn't really matter.

You shouldn't use a mech mod.
Ohm's law is important, no matter the mod, regulated or otherwise.

 

[kbeam418]

Since I don't know who I'm speaking to I didn't want to just burn every procedure or device off as if instruction wasn't important ... I also want everyone to understand that the Uwell RBA in this kit form is safe .... I mention Ohms to be certain I'm not being flippant about how needed SOME instructions are for some self build procedures totally 'scratch' from the start, unlike the Crown RBS which is equal to a boxed cake mix.

Every rba deck is somewhat the same.

You shouldn't use a mech mod.
Ohm's law is important, no matter the mod, regulated or otherwise.

I use a DNA 200 that has a 25 amp fuse, so no it's not important. All of my mods have low resistance protection. I have a mech mod and used it for a long time. I've got two electricians in my family I'm well aware of battery safety, amp limits, battery sag, conductivity and of course ohm's law.

 

[Kprthevapr]

I'm not gonna argue, I just got back from a three day furlough.
Good luck with your gear.

 

[kbeam418]

I'm not gonna argue, I just got back from a three day furlough.
Good luck with your gear.

What's there to argue about? Go on Steam Engine and use battery drain, regulated. Watts matter on regulated NOT ohms, 100 w into a 1.8 coil with the board getting 6.6 volts, is going to draw around 16 amps. Guess what happens if I use a .1 coil? The amps stay the same! Regulated is totally different than an un-regulated mod. Now ohm's do matter in terms of how hot the vape will be, the ramp up time, and heat flux.

 

[Kprthevapr]

What's there to argue about? Go on Steam Engine and use battery drain, regulated. Watts matter on regulated NOT ohms, 100 w into a 1.8 coil with the board getting 6.6 volts, is going to draw around 16 amps. Guess what happens if I use a .1 coil? The amps stay the same! Regulated is totally different than an un-regulated mod. Now ohm's do matter in terms of how hot the vape will be, the ramp up time, and heat flux.

Dude stop! You're preaching to the choir. I have over 30 mech mods and a half a dozen or so regulated mods. I know how it works.

 

[Baditude]

You shouldn't use a mech mod.
Ohm's law is important, no matter the mod, regulated or otherwise.

Pratically speaking, Ohm's law is important for mechanical mods, not so much for regulated mods.

For regulated mods, practically speaking Watt's Law is more important. Calculating battery current draw for a regulated mod

 

[Kprthevapr]

Ohm's law is important for mechanical mods, not so much for regulated mods.

For regulated mods, Watt's Law is more important.

I'm trying to play nice
I just got back from a three day ban, not trying to start any trouble.

I think is very important for people who vape to know how things work.
Uncle Sam sent me to school years ago to be an aviation electrician

 

[kbeam418]

I'm trying to play nice
I just got back from a three day ban, not trying to start any trouble.

I think is very important for people who vape to know how things work.
Uncle Sam sent me to school years ago to be an aviation electrician

Defiantly people should know how their mods work. Here's the point I was trying to make, for regulated mods, ohm's law does not matter for safety. A 1 ohm coil, theoretically, could vent a battery just as easily as .1 ohm coil could. Moral of the story? Use high amp IMR batteries, I use Sony VTC4 for my ipv5 since it's rated to pull 45 amps. I use LG HG2 for everything else.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

Somewhere along the line I equated smoking and vaping to the movie, The Wizard of Oz. Cigs are just black and white. Simple, boring, just regular and menthol.

Then, vaping is like Oz, a huge world full of different experiences and opportunities. Along with that, safety is wise. A wicked witch may be lurking.

As a former teacher, I know learning is good. I just took a vape of Lemon Meringue Pie; awesome! Thanks to someone that posted it.

 

[englishmick]

Defiantly people should know how their mods work. Here's the point I was trying to make, for regulated mods, ohm's law does not matter for safety. A 1 ohm coil, theoretically, could vent a battery just as easily as .1 ohm coil could. Moral of the story? Use high amp IMR batteries, I use Sony VTC4 for my ipv5 since it's rated to pull 45 amps. I use LG HG2 for everything else.

Only time I've had battery problems is with regulated mods. My Sigelei's have an annoying habit of occasionally not turning the display all the way off. If I'm not paying attention they sometimes go from bright to dim, then stick on dim until the battery gets down to 2.2V and then turn off. With a mech I would notice the lack of power long before the battery got that low.

Technology is great and regulated mods are a good thing. But tech does go wrong sometimes.

 

[kbeam418]

Only time I've had battery problems is with regulated mods. My Sigelei's have an annoying habit of occasionally not turning the display all the way off. If I'm not paying attention they sometimes go from bright to dim, then stick on dim until the battery gets down to 2.2V and then turn off. With a mech I would notice the lack of power long before the battery got that low.

Technology is great and regulated mods are a good thing. But tech does go wrong sometimes.

To each their own I suppose. I've never had any issues with my mods personally. Draining down to 2.2 wow! Absolutely correct about technology glitching out. Happens to our new vending machines all time

 

[WattWick]

To each their own I suppose. I've never had any issues with my mods personally. Draining down to 2.2 wow! Absolutely correct about technology glitching out. Happens to our new vending machines all time

I forgot (my bad) a battery in my Cloupor Mini+ for 3 months. Not sure if I turned off the mod or not (my bad again). No atty attached. When I checked the battery, it was at 0.8 volts...

That needn't have ended as well as it did. Not all batteries react as kindly to being over discharged to that extent. Lesson learned. Two "my bads" on my side. Still - not excellent engineering on the manufacturers side.

 

[bwh79]

I think is very important for people who vape to know how things work.
Uncle Sam sent me to school years ago to be an aviation electrician

Then you already know that, in a wattage-regulated device, the amperage drawn from the battery depends on the battery charge state, wattage setting, and device efficiency, and not on the resistance (ohms) of the attached load. Which is the point @kbeam418 was making when he said that "Ohm's law [which describes the relationship between volts, amps, and resistance] doesn't really matter."

 

[Kprthevapr]

Then you already know that, in a wattage-regulated device, the amperage drawn from the battery depends on the battery charge state, wattage setting, and device efficiency, and not on the resistance (ohms) of the attached load. Which is the point @kbeam418 was making when he said that "Ohm's law [which describes the relationship between volts, amps, and resistance] doesn't really matter."

Yep I know how it all works.