Vermilion River e-juice contains tobacco?

[RobFindlay]

I just discovered something I should have read up on a long time ago, from Vermilion rivers FAQ"

It contains: "tobacco essential oil, tobacco absolute,"
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Does this not mean you're still inhaling all naturally occurring carcinogens found in tobacco?

-Rob

 

[locke2121]

No...tobacco absolute isn't tobacco smoke. Think of it as instead a distilled tobacco leaf...with the oils, flavanoids and various other sundries. But no, no cancer, causing stuff.

 

[luceblueboy]

Please excuse my post as my information has decidedly confused people

 

[LibertariaNate]

If anything is extracted from tobacco, all you're really getting is flavor and a tiny bit of nicotine. If it says Whole Tobacco Alkaloids, this means that some of the junk from the tobacco is included as well. Very few companies use WTA and they'll advertise it as it's a pretty hot seller right now. If you don't see WTA anywhere then there's nothing to worry about.

Why should one worry about WTA, pray tell?

It's likely vaping is safer than smoking, but 100% safe? Nothing to worry about? Really?

 

[DC2]

Yeah, the WTAs are not carcinogenic as far as I know.

 

[ITPython]

Taken from Aroma ejuice FAQ: Whole Tobacco Alkaloid Eliquid WTA Aroma Ejuice

Is WTA safe?

This question should more properly be, "Are e-liquids safe?" Certainly WTA avoids the
many by-products from tobacco combustion, but there can be trace carcinogens known as
tobacco specific nitrosamines (TSNA’s). These TSNA’s can be present in E-juice, NRT's,
snus, chew, WTA, and any other product derived from tobacco. NRT’s show the lowest value
of TSNA’s. Whenever you have a tobacco product, it will most likely contain some amount
of TSNA’s. With products derived or extracted from tobacco there is always a chance of
inhaling these TSNA’s. The safest approach is not to ingest any form of tobacco product at
all. By using e-cigarettes we are aiming for a reduced risk versus smoking tobacco, but there
is risk. WTA is a more complex mixture than an e-liquid containing only nicotine. Logically,
WTA is not as safe as a nicotine only e-liquid. It is, however, this increased complexity that
we believe affords WTA the ability to help a struggling vaper not fall back to smoking analogs.

 

[luceblueboy]

Read the above post and another here about WTA. It will inform you. As for tobacco absolute, there's always a chance you'll get stuff in your body as with anything you put in your body. Moderation and research is the key.

 

[radiokaos]

If anything is extracted from tobacco, all you're really getting is flavor and a tiny bit of nicotine. If it says Whole Tobacco Alkaloids, this means that some of the junk from the tobacco is included as well. Very few companies use WTA and they'll advertise it as it's a pretty hot seller right now. If you don't see WTA anywhere then there's nothing to worry about.

I think there are several misconceptions about absolute, extraction and WTA.

Do you think only flavor and little bit of nicotine comes over in tobacco absolute?

What I find interesting is that former smokers that were using analogs for over 20 years have such concerns about the safety with vaping.

I find myself telling friends and family that there are no long term studies of vaping and if you are really concerned about safety then one should refrain from inhaling anything into their lungs including eliquid.

 

[luceblueboy]

I think it depends on the tobaccos a vendor is using. For example, if a vendor is using tobaccos not loaded with extra chemicals then you're not going to get that in your liquid. For example, pipe tobacco does not have added chemicals to it. Tar would build up on the lungs because of combustion since combustion does not happen then there's no fear of tar. Most vendors buy tobacco without the chemicals. I only know of one vendor that extracts from actual cigarettes.

 

[LibertariaNate]

I'm sorry I didn't mean to sound like WTA is evil, I meant that it's not as safe, as shown from an actual WTA vendor. The research is not solid yet on it. It is very helpful for those that don't want to risk their health with super high nic liquid.

I also didn't say 100% safe. Nothing to worry about was carcinogens. I addressed the concern of the OP. Don't put words in my mouth.

I'm sorry, I must have confused when you said "If you don't see WTA anywhere then there's nothing to worry about," as carte blanche for the safey of vaping.

Even the "pharmaceutical" grade nicotine used in NRT contains TSNAs which research suggests are carcinogenic. Switching from smoking to vaping is about harm reduction. To say otherwise is disingenuous. If WTAs can keep one off that analogs, that's a good thing.

 

[luceblueboy]

It's a misunderstanding. Thanks for clarifying my mistake as I understand how it could've been misinterpreted.