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Vermont H.47, 92% e-cig tax

Discussion in 'Legislation News' started by Enso, Jan 26, 2019.

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  1. Enso

    Enso Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2017
    Vermont, USA
    This is the most thorough article I was able to find:

    VTDigger
     
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  2. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    “I care about the fact that we know that teenagers are the most price-sensitive consumers,” he said. “And we need to make it so that fewer teenagers are able to do this.”

    Eh? If teenagers were price-sensitive, the Juul would not be their preferred vape! Juul pods at $4+ for 0.7 ml of liquid are already dang expensive compared to any refillable device.
     
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  3. Enso

    Enso Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2017
    Vermont, USA
    I ran out of liquid a couple weeks ago and resorted to a juul. I’m used to small RDAs and Kayfuns. I went through 16 of the 3% pods in about three days $$$$
     
  4. Rossum

    Rossum Surly Curmudgeon Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 14, 2013
    NE FL
    I tried a Juul way back when they were new and all the pods were 5%. I could not imagine going through more than two of them a day. But hey, people are different. FWIW, I also use small (MTL) BF RDAs and go through about 5 ml of 13mg (now) and 15mg (back then).

    As far as running out: I've never come anywhere close. I start to get antsy when I open my last 120ml bottle. That means it's time to mix more! :)
     
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  5. zoiDman

    zoiDman My -0^10 = Nothing at All* ECF Veteran

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    Raising Taxes to curb a behavior is a Time Honored technique. And it is Very Effective when the Numbers Show that there was significant reduction in Sales of the Taxed Product.

    Now of course, those Numbers aren't really giving one the Complete Picture. Because they Don't take into account the sale of Products that were Not Taxed.

    But the Way you get around this is you Just Don't Mention that. Instead, you just give the public Emotional Sound Bites...

    "City officials say they are aware of the huge extent of the illegal sales, but defend high cigarette taxes as saving lives.

    New York State Department of Taxation and Finance officials declined comment.

    Still, the Empire State, the report says, “is the highest net importer of smuggled cigarettes, totaling 56.8 percent of total cigarette consumption in the state.”


    https://nypost.com/2017/11/11/nyc-is-the-cigarette-smuggling-capital-of-the-us-study/
     
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  6. Ornias

    Ornias Moved On

    Feb 6, 2019
    Jacksonville, Florida
    That sounds suspiciously similar to what happens with drugs across the entire world. Increasing taxes or outright banning just seems to drive up the cost and introduces bad elements.
     
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  7. BrotherBob

    BrotherBob ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Dec 24, 2014
    Sunnyvale,CA,USA
    " By imposing a tax so high that it will shut down many or all of Vermont’s existing vapor retail stores, Gov. Scott is breaking his promise to voters and leaving adult smokers behind.”
    re: VTDigger
    Most states have underage nicotine consumption laws on the books now. Why don't states just enforce these underage laws in retail sales, and if need be, make them more severe? Stopping retail nicotine sales to minors would go along way to solving the problem.
    I see no problem in taxing, good government cost money, it just should be fair to all state consumers. Taxing does not need to be a weapon of hate, it should be a fair way to help all citizens to pursue happiness.
     
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