That's exactly where I'm headed to pick it up. Any other suggestions on tanks they have that I could use?
VERSION 2.5 Vision ViVi Nova Is IN STOCK Now, VIVI NOVA Review Thread
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That's exactly where I'm headed to pick it up. Any other suggestions on tanks they have that I could use?
I just read their response to all the "tiny" issues and I'm sorry but I have to call BS on this one. I have rebuilt from scratch (4 times) one of these Nova heads and as I posted earlier in this thread I even twisted extra wire onto the lead wires to try and prevent the lead wires from heating up and burning the rubber seal. Last night in another failed attempt I made another complete coil/wick assembly with the double wire and this time I made sure the extra wires traveled all the way up to the wick and stopped short by about 1/32". It still causes the rubber to burn or "off gas". And no, this isn't even close to the taste of a burning wick. I have tried everything and then some to try and get this tank to work. And after 4 attempts and being extremely careful and checking everything along the way I find it hard to believe that there are ANY of these out there that are not burning the rubber seal. I hope I am wrong about this, but for safety reasons I strongly suggest to anyone using these right now to try vapping some non-flavored juice or straight PG/VG to verify that you are not inhaling any burnt rubber. Don't verify with a tank full of Cinnamon bomb or any other strong flavored juice because it will most likely mask the burning rubber taste. Again, I hope I'm wrong but something just isn't right here.
I have 2 vivi nova's, and with the first one, none of the heads worked, and all I got was a muted taste. I decided to try it again, and with my 2nd one, I dry burned the heads, and with the 2.8, the coils in the middle glowed bright red, and the other 2, I saw that the ends of the coils glowed before the middle did. So I decided to wash the 2.8 under hot water, and let it dry over night. I took out the top wick as someone suggested, fluffed the other wicks, and hooked it up to the tank. When I put the rubber cap on, its not touching the wicks, and sitting a little above them. I put my favorite juice in, and it seems to be working as i type. Any suggestions on what I should do with the other heads that glowed on the side before the middle? I don't really know how to rebuild them, but i m going to try. I just have to order some wire and wick. I guess I got lucky, out of 6 heads, atleast 1 is working. Anyone know when GV will get the new ones in?
I agree 100%. The seal is NOT made from a sufficient material and either is or will burn at some point. Folks, you are not only vaping the juice, but the vapor the SEAL is producing. If you have a strong juice you may not be noticing it as much as me and some others are. But you are almost for sure vaping the burning rubber.
I have tested the seal I used from another carto and so far it is doing much better.
I personally believe the actual problem is the fact the leads travel to far from the coil. If the positive "button" and seal were longer, thus making contact closer to the actual coil, I believe that all issues would be resolved.
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They have the smok techs, and some giantomizers. I would give the vivi a shot. I have not had the issues that others are talking about once I unwound my wicks.
You're right. The head does not seat all the way. However, I'm on my second tank fill and no leaks. It seems the seal under the head is sealing enough for now. If I develop leaks I'll try a larger o-ring under the head. As always, YMMV.
I have also taken apart a couple of old dead cartos and will use them when I get some wick and wire and try rebuilding one. I will probably rebuild one totally and another I will just change the rubber seal for the leads and see if either of those make a difference.
This is an interesting idea. What seal did you use and from what type of carto. I would like to give this a try.
I have to be honest here however as I am not getting the burnt rubber taste. But, maybe it is so minimal that it is enough to mask (mute) the flavour of the liquid. I wonder if the seal from a stardust might work?
I used the bottom seal from an 808 carto as I dont even have 808 devices anymore. Ive not tore apart any of the Boge cartos yet cuz the wife keeps chuggin on it.........
No 808 cartos here but I do have a Boge ....
The seal for the Boge appears to be the same, just a different color. I can't tell if it is the same type of material.
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Good to know! In this ever changing e-cig world "whatever works" seems appropriate! ;-)
Well, one of the juices I am testing this pup with is very weak-tasting, in and of itself. In any carto. I can honestly say that I am not tasting any burnt rubber on any of the nine heads from my latest three ViVis. The taste is not identical to the Extreme Stretch I have loaded up with the same juice currently, but it's definitely not burnt rubber.
I'm not sure anymore what I tasted on my really bad head from the first package - other than it was bad. LOL
It's not like I'm doubting your experience, and, heck, maybe your taste buddies are healthier than mine.
Just in case: did you, like, clean the tank and the heads really, really well? I'm going to wash mine out with soap (sans the heads - those I'll do in the ultrasonic cleaner), just in case - that leftover oil thing has me a bit spooked, even if I can't taste it.
But, you are right, the gasket shouldn't be scorching. It might not do so if we don't dry-burn, I'm thinking (?), but since the site itself recommends dry-burning, it shouldn't be happening, imho.
Another question: when you twisted the lead wires, did they still light up along with the coil itself? I wasn't sure from your message.
I have done everything just short of boiling them in a tube full of sulfuric acid with Rosie O'Donnell setting in there. TRUST me. LOL
I even put the rubber seal in my mouth and pinched it between my teeth to see if I could taste anything similar to the burnt taste.
I have washed every single nook and cranny of the entire assembly including pushing a small wire in and out of the air holes while under water. There are no oils or other contaminates in, on or around this unit. These were some of the first things I tried.
I have tried vapping it without the top cup seal.
And I have made complete new coil and wick assemblies using the same materials as I use on my Stardust.
The only thing I haven't tried yet is replacing the suspected rubber seal. I don't think I have anything close to what it uses but I'll probably try to hack something up. Maybe I'll try a Stardust seal if it'll come close to fitting correctly.
If I have time tonight, I'll have to check it to see if the leads glow before the coil. To be honest I didn't look down inside before I filled it because I "thought" I finally solved my problem when all the coils glowed and figured it was going to work.
The strange thing is I can not taste or smell anything funky on the rubber seal by itself and the burn marks (as I've said before) are very tiny.
I even put the rubber seal in my mouth and pinched it between my teeth to see if I could taste anything similar to the burnt taste.
I have washed every single nook and cranny of the entire assembly including pushing a small wire in and out of the air holes while under water. There are no oils or other contaminates in, on or around this unit. These were some of the first things I tried.
I have tried vapping it without the top cup seal.
And I have made complete new coil and wick assemblies using the same materials as I use on my Stardust.
The only thing I haven't tried yet is replacing the suspected rubber seal. I don't think I have anything close to what it uses but I'll probably try to hack something up. Maybe I'll try a Stardust seal if it'll come close to fitting correctly.
If I have time tonight, I'll have to check it to see if the leads glow before the coil. To be honest I didn't look down inside before I filled it because I "thought" I finally solved my problem when all the coils glowed and figured it was going to work.
The strange thing is I can not taste or smell anything funky on the rubber seal by itself and the burn marks (as I've said before) are very tiny.
major news is incoming, i would ignore that jabber on the visionecigar site, they put that up in attempt to help out people with heads that arent perfect in the meantime.
the heads have been revamped 100%, not the same heads, all new, teted for flavor, tested for taste, tested for vapor thickness, tested for durability, tested for leaks(coil head) the vivi nova tube to base has already passed the main tests which is no leaking no gurgling so that was not changed.
ohms are being checked as well,while a head says 1.8 or 2.4, know that it can be plus .2 points like normal.
the new heads have a new feature which you will all see soon, redesigned and fully tested, they all look exhausted.
we will get a huge bag of old heads for people to play with
the new heads have new coil, new assembly process and new wick
while i stress the point that we where not responsible for the old heads as that was not something we could touch at that point in time because someone else was helping with that, im not passing blame in anyway since many heads work great, so ill pass it off as bad assembly and in proper design with the wick and coil. We and others helped assist the vision team with all the information they needed for the new heads and they did a bang up job.
To help everyone out we will price the new heads at below cost for a period of time so people can buy them in confidence and im sure you will all be happy with the result.
just to clarify, when i initially said they tested 250 of them, that means 250 where tested, the issues some are having did not show up till after people let us know, then they retested and found some that where not up to par. the tests they did where for leaks and gurgling and to make sure it vaped which they did but taste was not tested as it should as this is new to them, many people including us had to explain to them what muted flavor means. when they test with their tobacco they where just looking for it to work and vape and taste like what the juice is, now they fully understand what you all expect taste wise.
the heads have been revamped 100%, not the same heads, all new, teted for flavor, tested for taste, tested for vapor thickness, tested for durability, tested for leaks(coil head) the vivi nova tube to base has already passed the main tests which is no leaking no gurgling so that was not changed.
ohms are being checked as well,while a head says 1.8 or 2.4, know that it can be plus .2 points like normal.
the new heads have a new feature which you will all see soon, redesigned and fully tested, they all look exhausted.
we will get a huge bag of old heads for people to play with
the new heads have new coil, new assembly process and new wick
while i stress the point that we where not responsible for the old heads as that was not something we could touch at that point in time because someone else was helping with that, im not passing blame in anyway since many heads work great, so ill pass it off as bad assembly and in proper design with the wick and coil. We and others helped assist the vision team with all the information they needed for the new heads and they did a bang up job.
To help everyone out we will price the new heads at below cost for a period of time so people can buy them in confidence and im sure you will all be happy with the result.
just to clarify, when i initially said they tested 250 of them, that means 250 where tested, the issues some are having did not show up till after people let us know, then they retested and found some that where not up to par. the tests they did where for leaks and gurgling and to make sure it vaped which they did but taste was not tested as it should as this is new to them, many people including us had to explain to them what muted flavor means. when they test with their tobacco they where just looking for it to work and vape and taste like what the juice is, now they fully understand what you all expect taste wise.
Picked up two of them and so far I love them. I started out using giantomizers but when you use them you end up with juice in your mouth. Then I picked up clearomizers to replace the giantomizer and I liked those. But these ViVi's are perfect. No leaking, holds a nice amount of juice and the taste of the juice in these things is incredible.
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Any word on if they center post on the base is going to be adjusted? I realize they can be filed down, but it would be nice if that weren't required.
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oh yes i forgot to mention it in my post above, that also has been adjusted. it is now flush
And there I thought there was some kind of complicated alchemy going on.
I tried lifting the hat and, frankly, all it did was loosen the draw alot, and eliminate flavor altogether. Oh, it produced tons of vapor. And there was no funky taste - in fact there was *no* taste. Hee-hee. For currently working heads, it's way better to just leave it the way it is.Cool. Can't wait to try them. New techy stuff... Oooooooo...
Mmmm... That explains a lot of things.
Good deal..thanks for the persistance bad
love the tank for work..in the back pocket other tank types were gurgling and needed some cleaning before i could vape when i pulled it out, but not this one.
love the tank for work..in the back pocket other tank types were gurgling and needed some cleaning before i could vape when i pulled it out, but not this one.
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