Veteran vapors tips for newbies.

[aschmidy]

Do it your own way! You don't HAVE to DIY if that's not you. If you need higher nic strength, go for it. If you want to go all out and get a big ole PV, do it. If you are happy with one that looks like an analog, you do fine on a lower nic strength and like the DIY fruity stuff, go for it.
If it never leaves your mouth, so what. If you time your vapes, that's cool.
And if you change your mind and want to try it a different way, that's okay, too!
Whatever trips your trigger and gets you off analogs. There is no 'right' or 'wrong'.
(just how it works for me)

 

[raul]

Hey, thanks for the tips, as someone who's just started I found some of the tips spot on. For a smoker who is trying ecigs the important thing is to replicate the experiences as closely as possible to make the transition smoother and give it a chance.

There are many things to adjust to so does't make sense to have too many variables at once, event the plastic feel of the filter can be a challenge for some. One can always experiment for instance with flavours and devices later. 36mg and going down is a good place to start, or if you have the resources then buy strengths right from 6mg to 36 to figure out what works for you. This totally depends on the individual and not necessarily how many cigs one smoked. But to buy for instance 6 or 18mg and finding the experience too light and inadequate is not a good start to ecigs.

Also I am finding some of the new devices are much more reliable than before so I would advice caution before buying tons of equipment. There are lots of conflicting views on atomiser cleaning, device models, mods so reading a bit before committing to any of these is a good idea.

 

[efan]

Hey, thanks for the tips, as someone who's just started I found some of the tips spot on. For a smoker who is trying ecigs the important thing is to replicate the experiences as closely as possible to make the transition smoother and give it a chance.

There are many things to adjust to so does't make sense to have too many variables at once, event the plastic feel of the filter can be a challenge for some. One can always experiment for instance with flavours and devices later. 36mg and going down is a good place to start, or if you have the resources then buy strengths right from 6mg to 36 to figure out what works for you. This totally depends on the individual and not necessarily how many cigs one smoked. But to buy for instance 6 or 18mg and finding the experience too light and inadequate is not a good start to ecigs.

Also I am finding some of the new devices are much more reliable than before so I would advice caution before buying tons of equipment. There are lots of conflicting views on atomiser cleaning, device models, mods so reading a bit before committing to any of these is a good idea.

IMO 24mgs would be a good starting point if your not sure... 36 is to high for most people...

 

[iblis]

IMO 24mgs would be a good starting point if your not sure... 36 is to high for most people...

Er, the OP posted that one should get 36mg, and 0mg, and cut the 36mg if you need to, since you can always lower the nicotine level by cutting it with more 0mg juice.

Myself, I was originally shocked that there are people out there that need 24mg. But hey, everyone is different. Some folk have been smoking longer than others. The OP was just trying to pass on a few tips that might save a bit of headache (and nic cravings) for newcomers.

Just my take on it, though. Obviously, do whatever's best for you. My juice is way higher than I need, and cut with VG and flavor to make it last longer - that's mainly a price thing, though. I go through it pretty fast.

I'll be very happy when I can wean myself off the nicotine altogether; I'll still vape, as I enjoy the experience (especially the flavors). I just won't have to deal with the side effects of *not* vaping.

 

[saphic]

I started on 14mg liquid from kingpin using a 510 with a personal charging case. I have had one battery this entire time and one atomizer, have killed neither. I bought the case, auto battery, atomizer, blank carts, and my first batches of eliquid all from kingpin. Their prices are great and they have free shipping. I am now smoking Johnson Creek tennesee cured 18mg RPG and it's my favorite, just ordered 30ml at 11mg as I am trying to taper down. I find the reduced PG from johnsons doesn't irritate my mouth and it's seriously yummy stuff. The only mod I made was to clean out the nasty fibers in my atomizer, works much better now and it's been several days of very regular smoking. I keep my charging case attached to my computer and just put the cig in there when I'm not using it to keep the battery charged. The case is always charging on the computer via USB. Then when I go anywhere I take a little plastic dropping bottle of liquid and a couple spare carts in my case. The case holds two spare carts with thier caps and you can store the atomizer with a cart in it, which I recommend. The case keeps the battery charged all day. I just store the whole thing in the case all the time. I also clean my case, battery, carts, wicks, and atomizer every couple of days with 91% alcohol, which is what I have around. I hear 100% is better, but haven't tried it. 91% works fine for me. I'm just using the standard wick thats comes in the carts. The importiant things with these seems to be regular cleaning, keeping things wet, and keeping things charged. We buy new blank carts in addition to cleaning and reusing carts once in a while. And always sample and order your eliquid before you run out. Unless you live in a cool city, you can't really just go down the street and buy more liquid. Also, I choose lower nic levels becasue I'm a one cig a day social smoker. Now of course I vape all day long becasue it's so much cleaner. I just get my buzz and take a break, no measuing here. I physically smoke way more than I used to, so I'm lowering my nic to 11 so I can keep the buzz and stay at a lower level. I've been cutting the 18 with a no nic sample of the JC original, but I love the tennesee flavor quite a bit. Hope this let's you know that we all do this a little bit differently. Find what works for you for equipment, liquid, and mods and enjoy it your way. I should also note that I just dropped my case with my cig in it in a glass of whisky on the rocks. It's ok, it appears to be fine. Tennesee cured indeed. Get some tweezers, some qtips and a metal or glass cup to clean things and a towel to dry things off. let the alcohol evaporate a bit before you start smoking right away. It doesn't take long to clean them at all for me, but I don't let stuff build up. Hope this helps someone out.

 

[residualgenius]

I wanted to clarify on the name of the post. I don't consider myself a veteran of vaping I have only been vaping a little over a year, but the name of the post was supposed to get the people who have been vaping for a while to post there advice. That is why at the end I put I hope the veterans will post there advice. The name of the post was not meant to say I was a veteran, but to get lots of good advice out there.

 

[jodeewlls]

HI there,
I am very very new. havent purchased anything as of yet. but i seem to keep going back the the vapor 4 life site . with the vapor kings.. can any one tellme about this site and if there any good? is there a better site then this one? thank u

 

[mvdwant]

I've only been vaping for 6 months, and am for sure no expert, but I would be very careful advising people to buy 36 mg liquid (I smoked 2-3 packs of cigarettes a day, and 36mg would be waaaay too strong, would make me wretch); 'dry' burns are a no no (your atomizer will overheat and ruin the coil), and the cart filler should be either left as is, if a person is having trouble out of the box it's usually because they're not taking very long, gentle puffs. Puffing too hard will cause excessive juice to flow, flooding the atomizer, and getting juice in your mouth! And carts shouldn't leak, if they do they should be replaced. Replacement cartridges are advised from time to time at the filler will deteriorate from heat and clumsy re-filling. People sometimes want to experiment with "alternate" wick materials, sometimes will use things that could be harmful. And just for hygenic reasons. And if you use 'pre-filled' carts, there should be a plug or a seal on the end to keep the wicking (fiber-fill) moist. If you are re-filling, all you need is a small carry along bottle, one cartridge is all you need. And yes, if an atomizer sounds 'gurgly', take it off and blow it out from the thread end. Gurgling noises come from too much liquid in the atomizer, which can be caused by a fading battery, puffing too hard and not long enough, or over-filling the cartridge. Those things cut down the sufficient heating of the atomizer for good vapor production. But no reason to be alternating 5 atomizers, in the end they will all eventually fail no matter how you arrange their schedules!

And all should store juices, cartridges, and batteries safely, out of reach of kids and pets and curious old people!

Agreed 100% - I find that anything more than 10mg has me with my head in my clouds and a heart going boom diddy boom diddy boom.

 

[Devious]

Awesome! Thanks for all the tips! Keep em coming!

Reality is for those that lack imagination...

 

[residualgenius]

definitely not me i can smoke 36mg fine it is about how much you are consuming. If you are vaping all day long non stop then you need a lower mg. With 36mg I will only take 2 or 3 drags an hour or less. Just a thought

 

[xogul]

Even factory carts can be overfilled (and underfilled for that matter). Overfilling is usually the culprit, but can be compounded by how thin the juice is, how well the stuffing is working (how well it is holding the liquid from just leaking out too quickly), and how deeply the atty presses into the stuffing (particularly with a fresh cart). It can also happen if the atomizer is flooded for whatever reason (excessive dripping, overfilled cart, poor stuffing, etc).

If you don't drip and only use cartridges, it is most likely to leak with a fresh cart installed, be it "factory" or freshly refilled by yourself. You may be able to minimize leakage by using your PV for a little while anytime you install a "fresh" cart before you put it down.

Thank you for the reply.
I started to use it after refill and before put it in the box (a metallic cigar case by the way) just to test but there is always some juice in some place, well not always but most of the time. I'm sure I'm overfilling the cartridge but it's the only way I can get a good vapour from the dse901.

When you say 'minimize' do you mean that it will always leak? (even if I don't overfill) It's my 2º dse901 and it's the first time it happens.

 

[NCVapingLady]

I wanted to clarify on the name of the post. I don't consider myself a veteran of vaping I have only been vaping a little over a year, but the name of the post was supposed to get the people who have been vaping for a while to post there advice. That is why at the end I put I hope the veterans will post there advice. The name of the post was not meant to say I was a veteran, but to get lots of good advice out there.

Hi residualgenius!
Thanks so much for the informative post. Just because you are new to this forum, doesn't make you new to vaping. You are a veteran compared to a lot of newbies out there. I have been vaping since March of this year, however, I just lurk in this and other forums and chime in when I feel like it.
Please don't take offense to people who just can't appreciate freely given suggestions/thoughts/advice/experience. Obviously vaping experience will vary from person to person. It really is all about trial and error. What will work for some, won't work for others. That is what this forum is about: Opinions/Research/etc.

Again, THANK YOU and Happy Vaping!

 

[JeannieB360]

I've been vaping for about 2 months. Things I'd add to this thread:

0 mg, 36 mg - You'll need an empty bottle and dripper of some kind to be able to hold your 'mix' of the two, and you'll want to mix very small batches to decide the 'right' level of nic for you. If you're not comfortable with that, just get 1 bottle of high, medium or low juice based on being a heavy/medium/light smoker. Don't buy the 36 if you aren't prepared to dilute it.

Buy a few sample flavors in small bottles preferably from a supplier with free shipping to minimize the cost and let you experiment. Today I finally threw out two samples that I actively disliked after trying many times to doctor them up to something acceptable, and I now have too many great flavors to bother with these two anymore.

As soon as I started posting here I got a lot of responses telling me I HAD to get a manual battery/USB passthru/battery mod. It was a few weeks until I got a manual battery for my 901- they weren't easily available, then tried a manual passthru,and finally wallplugs and a USB charger for my car to be able to use the passthrus all over my house and in my car. Having burned through a lot of auto batts by overfillng my carts I'm now sold on manual. If you can find a starter kit with manual batteries go for it.

 

[Tweak]

Check out the "rho Mod" version of the Lipton PTB cart mod. It vapes way longer and keeps the liquid out of your battery. After trying this the stock material seems useless. It's even better when you remove the PTB and fill the cart, lasts a long time compared to polyfill. Seems to make the smokes per cart more realistic.

 

[Bobalicious]

Many Thanks goes out to the original poster.
You have given some sound advice.

I am brand new and have been Vaping for a whopping 2 days and wish I had read the advice before hand.

Buying a "0 mg" e-liquid to cut whatever strength you buy is a good idea. At this point I have Tennessee Cured 24mg from Johnson creek. Ultimately, I want to cut down my nicotine addiction but for the immediate transition a stronger dosage gives me confidence in this alternative delivery method.

Being that I am new I will refrain from giving advice and will only discuss my current experience with vaping. I have bought the Fifty One Trio and have found the carts are prone to leaking which has not been a pleasant experience. I have found that direct dripping while using the original cap/empty cart without a liquid reservoir that came on the atomizer eliminates this problem. Being the battery is automatic I drip only two drops as I do not want the liquid to leak into the switch.

I hope my Titan 510 with a manual battery will be an improvement to the Fifty One Trio. It will be nice if the leaking problem will be lessoned with my new purchase which is currently in the mail. For now I will continue to direct drip until it arrives.

What tips and tricks would the Veterans suggest in reducing leakage?
What products do you feel are the best for preventing leakage?

residualgenius, Thanks you so much for posting this thread. It was precisely what I was looking for and I wish I had read it sooner. I’ve read the rebuke from others on the 36mg and I feel that the people refuting this advice do not understand what you where trying to convey to us novices. Perhaps more emphasis could have been given to the 0mg purchase.

People, all residualgenius is saying here is that everyone is addicted at different levels. Buy purchasing a 0mg bottle along with a 36mg you will have full control over the level of nicotine that is delivered. If you start with one part 0mg and one part 36mg you end up with 18mg… if it is too much or too little you can adjust accordingly. Also, taking a hit at 36mg will give someone new to Vaping the confidence that they will be able to get nicotine into there system regardless of how addicted you are. If they start out with too little they may lose confidence and move back to regular cigarettes.

In the event that I find myself in the position of giving a new e-Cig user advice I will for sure advise them to purchase a bottle of 0mg along with the high 36mg concentration. I will also advise them not to vape at full strength.

Thanks again for this post as it has been very useful.
And my advice to you residualgenius is too not let people’s criticism get to you. Many people are addicted to picking things apart and it is just a part of there nature. Your advice is good and I am grateful that you posted it.
Robert

 

[Scottes]

Robert,

Leaking - don't over-fill your cartridges. You want to drip into the cart until you see that the top is wet, but not pooling. You might have to wait a couple seconds between each of the last couple drops. Tapping the cart helps get the liquid down, as does squeezing the cart, or inserting a paper clip and pushing the cart filler aside (which lets the liquid drain to the bottom when filling). You may just want to stop filling early, and/or dab the top of the cart with a kleenex to get off any excess. Filling takes a little experience, so you'll have much less problem in a week or two.

Cutting, or mixing 36mg with 0mg. This is a great idea, but note that this can cut the flavor unless both the 36mg and 0mg are the same flavor, which makes things quite expensive. If it works for you, that's excellent. You'll soon realize what strength you should be buying so you don't have to worry about cutting. Make your next two flavors 24mg and 16mg (or 16 and 11) - this will allow you to change flavors from time to time, which helps the taste a lot. You will start getting used to a flavor, so it will seem reduced after a while. Switching flavors periodically helps keep them "fresh" tasting. And having different nic strengths around is good, since it lets you pick the strength when you want it. I like to wake up to a strong nic-juice, then I vape the mild stuff all day. Some people switch to 6mg or even 0mg before bed.

 

[ByKa]

I'm a new man, millione thanx for posts!
I've two (new) 510 (Joye) but ittle the vapor for me.
there are enough if I suck it up together the two
I need a more vapor, but I thinking, my liquids the weak ones.
few flavours and little vapor
I received ideas, let me order a liquid from USA or from the UK, but the transport costs so much, than yet a big liquid.
I try to earn the others because I want to stop traditional cigarette.

sorry for my english.

 

[CrazyTerrie11]

I wanted to clarify on the name of the post. I don't consider myself a veteran of vaping I have only been vaping a little over a year, but the name of the post was supposed to get the people who have been vaping for a while to post there advice. That is why at the end I put I hope the veterans will post there advice. The name of the post was not meant to say I was a veteran, but to get lots of good advice out there.

Thats how I understood it....sometimes you can learn ALOT and troubleshoot and fix alot of problems in a short time. I've only been vaping since August 11th and my little 901 in combination with some of the mods I found here in this forum have made me pretty smart when it comes to 901's. I get awesome amounts of vapor and great throat hits with nice clean taste with my juice. My attys last long enough to make me happy and I have enough batteries and chargers so that I never run out of power. So whatever you want to call me, be it a "veteran" or whatever.....I could give some accurate advice about 901's. Its a learning curve and how long you've been doing it is irrevelant....Its how many issues you have had and successfully figured out how to fix is how you learn to be an "experienced" vaper.
Everyone has different experiences and alot of people dont care for the 901 but I LOVE it and I tried an 801 as well but I can get what I enjoy from my little beast LOL

 

[CrazyTerrie11]

efan makes an excellent point, I would imagine 99% of us started using E-Cigs as a method to get away from our addiction to tobacco cigarettes which when you boil it down to it's essence is nicotine addiction not tobacco addiction, or smoking addiction. Yes, there are some other triggers associated with smoking which is one of the things that makes it so doubly hard to quit, but the bottom line is that it's the nicotine that we are addicted to physically. It only makes sense to stay away from the higher nicotine levels as we are having such great success with staying away from tobacco cigarettes. The idea that anyone would NEED that high of a nicotine level when trying to get away from smoking is just ludicrous. I can't wait for the day I am buying or mixing my juice with next to nothing in nicotine content. That's when I will know that I have beaten the habit.

Cure the ADDICTION, don't just treat the CRAVINGS.

I loved smoking but It got soooo expensive and I hated the smelly nasty ashtray smell that stayed on my clothes and In my hair. Plus all the thousands of other chemical they add to analogs made me try vaping. I use high nic juice because I didnt do this to quit...I did it to substitute with something a little healthier. My lungs are nice and clear, I dont get out of breath and I havent gotten bronchitis yet this year and when the temperature drops in the fall I have always gotten it. So my point is that there are more people that vape for other reasons than to quit nicotine.....more than 1%

 

[adamwyattfa]

Im kinda new to this whole thing, but I love it!
My buddy and I split half on a Pure Smoke, and we want to try and get another one, maybe more of a tobacco flavor to it. Did I mention I am cheap? Any ideas out there?
I remember the first one we tried was a Smoking Everywhere, and it did the job really well from what I remember, but my memory might be askiew since we were pretty drunk playing pool at the bars sooo...

Anyone out there have any ideas on which one is the best to buy to have it taste the most like a real smoke? Thanks all!