So after having to goto the ER from vaping (hands swelled up all huge and got dizzy/light headed) I thought it was the PG so I ordered some unflavored VG, took 1 puff, and back in the ER lol. Anyone else have this type of problem, should I try straight PG and see if that's the problem?
VG allergy?
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There are some people who are allergic to VG, but I don't think it's very common. You can try going to straight PG and see what happens. You can also try PEG400 to replace PG if the PG is also a problem.
Is that what is causing my lightheadedness? new to vaping....only been a week...
with me that's how it started, than a swollen knee I thought was due to the gym, but didn't go away, than a couple days later my hands got huge swollen, within a couple days of quitting I felt normal again. Than I got some pure VG, tried it and boom, it sucked ... lol. I'm not done tho, I need to not be smoking analogs.
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afrsss, you could be over-vaping and getting a little bit of a nicotine OD. You could also be dehydrated, so make sure you're drinking enough water.
Yeah but everyone here (I would think) knows what a nicotine OD feels like. This is a completely different feeling, like being dazed, not like a headache or to much nicotine.
I wouldn't want to make an assumption that everyone here knows what a nicotine OD feels like, or even that everyone knows that you can OD on nicotine. That's why I said it, and also pointed out that dehydration could be an issue. It sort of like assuming that everyone knows that there's such a thing as H2O and O2 toxicity. A lot of people don't.
This probably won't help much- but i feel light-headed and spacy when i don't get enough nicotine.....
Logic- i have heard that some have VG allergies, i think others are sensitive to some of the flavorings. Be really careful if your response is strong enough to send you to the ER.
Logic- i have heard that some have VG allergies, i think others are sensitive to some of the flavorings. Be really careful if your response is strong enough to send you to the ER.
Swelling should not be a response to being dehydrated, that is def. an allergic reaction. Did you start with PG only juice or carts and get this reaction, then tried VG and got the same reaction? It's really hard to know what you are reacting to, but if it keeps happening, then it seems your choices may be limited. Did you talk with the doc at the ER? what did they tell you?
I found the PG made me dry out, spacey, almost having anxiety and muscle cramping, so I went to VG and did not have any problems, but I am 0 nic. vaper, so I could not blame the nic. only the other ingredients. Where did you get your VG from, e cig supply or the store? If you are reacting to the PG and they used PG in the VG mix (nicotine or flavor) you could still be reacting. It's just so hard to say, and I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV... good luck to you. I hope you can figure this out.
I found the PG made me dry out, spacey, almost having anxiety and muscle cramping, so I went to VG and did not have any problems, but I am 0 nic. vaper, so I could not blame the nic. only the other ingredients. Where did you get your VG from, e cig supply or the store? If you are reacting to the PG and they used PG in the VG mix (nicotine or flavor) you could still be reacting. It's just so hard to say, and I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on TV... good luck to you. I hope you can figure this out.
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thanks! I'm not sure what the vg/pg ratio was in some of the orignal juice/carts I ordered. I just assumed that it was the PG because I hadn't heard of anyone having a reaction to VG. I ordered pure 120ML of 12mg VG from freedom smoke (even trippled checked with them to make sure there was no PG in anything in my order) and some flavorings on the side. Added a little VG and water, dripped it on my EGO, and it didn't work out so well. No flavorings or anything, so I would think it's the VG right?
Just ordered some PG and PEG400 from e-cig.com should hopefully work better.
Just ordered some PG and PEG400 from e-cig.com should hopefully work better.
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I hope it works out for you, the trouble in this situation is hard to pin point. Some people just react to things, even simple things like peanuts or bananas. I can eat both of those all day long, but other's can't even get near the stuff with out puffing up. We are all different, and vaping is no exception. The important thing is to be healthy and safe. Try the other liquids, do controlled experiments, but if you keep having to go to the ER, the answer is clear. I hope you find something that works for you.
If you're having an allergic reaction - you really need to put your ecig away! Initial strong allergic reactions can quickly lead to very severe reactions.
Your doctor should be able to administer allergy tests for PG, VG and nicotine - so you can rule these out.
As for suggestions that this is dehydration - it doesn't really sound like it. Yes, dehydration can cause swelling in the limbs, but it is easily diagnosed - not usually mistaken for an allergy. Dehydration is indicated first by a mild to medium headache - followed by nausea and later vomiting (if it gets to the vomiting stage - get to a hospital).
Your doctor should be able to administer allergy tests for PG, VG and nicotine - so you can rule these out.
As for suggestions that this is dehydration - it doesn't really sound like it. Yes, dehydration can cause swelling in the limbs, but it is easily diagnosed - not usually mistaken for an allergy. Dehydration is indicated first by a mild to medium headache - followed by nausea and later vomiting (if it gets to the vomiting stage - get to a hospital).
In my honest unprofessional opinion, I have ran across a thread that is starting to get somewhere with the actual flavorings.. I do not think that it may be with the PG or VG, but that it may be caused from inhaling most of these food flavorings. There are a lot of issues starting to happen in regards to health, which people are assuming that it may be PG, VG, or symptoms of quiting smoking. However, breathing in the flavorings that we are using with our e-juice may not be safe to inhale. There may be ingredients in the flavorings that are causing these symptoms.
If you look at the PG MSDS: PROPYLENE GLYCOL You will notice that there are no health effects to inhalation. This is the VG MSDS http://www.thesoapkitchen.co.uk/images/MSDS/other/MSDS Glycerine Soap Kitchen.pdf Is stating that it is not a hazardous substance.
Let me know what you think
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Are you vaping anything that has cinnamon in it? I read on hear that people are suffering from reactions to it as well. I love cinnamon and don't have any problems but it's not for everyone. See an allergy specialist. They can narrow it down if it is indeed something in your juice. Nicotine OD sucks. I did it by accident when I started vaping because I was so eager to stay away from analogs. After 20 minutes it passed and I didn't do anymore vaping the rest of the night. I just went to bed. Ask the seller what brand of flavorings they use. Most will tell you especially if you inform them you've had a reaction to it. Then check with the vendor of the flavorings they use and ask for an ingredient list. Take it to the doctor with you. I hope you get to feeling better and figure out whats making you do this. PG makes my chest hurt and causes light headness. I can't vape over 50% mixture. I lean more towards VG. Always drink plenty of plain water for dehydration. I drink more as a vaper than I did when I smoked.
Nope, this was 100% VG with 12mg nicotine from freedom smoke, no flavor nothing else. Could I really have been a 1pad smoker and be allergic to nicotine?
Nicotine acts a little different in the way it gets into the bloodstream. Apparently, when nicotine is vaporized, the molecules of nicotine are too big to go through the lung. When nicotine is combusted into smoke, the molecules are smaller, being able to flow through the lung. Now, I don't know if that would have anything to do with it or not. All I know is that when nicotine is able to flow through the lung, it gets into the bloodstream faster.
Edit: So, if the molecules are too big for lung transfer, then how would the nicotine get into the bloodstream?
That is interesting that you are vaping unflavored nicotine, and your hands are swelling up. I can't possibly think of anything allergic about VG according to their MSDS.
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Nicotine molecules are the same size regardless of whether vaped or smoked. if the molecule changes size or structure (other than the amount of water associated with the molecule ) it is no longer "nicotine". Absorption may be through the mouth or upper airways in the case of vaping, and through deeper in the lungs on the case of smoking. If all you had is nicotine and VG, and you have successfully tolerated nicotine for a number of years- then VG,or contaminants in the VG, are the more likely culprit. in any case, be careful.
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