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VG PG ratio and Mt Baker Vapor

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  1. double_aa_ron

    double_aa_ron Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2012
    Austin, Texas
    Do you think that the VG/PG ratio effects the flavor of their juice? I have tried several of their flavors and I haven't been very impressed. There are other vendors that have much better juice IMO. One of the big things that I don't like about them is the vapor production at the standard 80/20 ratio. Does changing them to say a 50/50 ratio have an effect on the flavor? I would really like to find something that I like from them because of the price. It would be awesome to not have to spent $20 on 30ml, but instead spend $36 on 236ml.
     
  2. SouthernBliss

    SouthernBliss Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 19, 2013
    Athens, Ga, USA
    I can't see how it wouldn't change the flavor since vg is a bit sweeter than pg overall. For me the flavor of pg is a bit off putting as well so lowering it dramatically changed the flavor of e-liquids for me. But that has been true with every juice I have tried not just those from MTV.
     
  3. unclestu

    unclestu Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 23, 2013
    ALLENHURST, NJ, USA
    I am new and I have been very satissfied with the 50/50 juice that I ordered from MTB. I just tried the freebee which was 80/20 (pg/vg). It was Freckled Lemonade and it was quite flavorful. I would give them another try as their customer service and speed of delivery is fantastic.
    Stu
     
  4. double_aa_ron

    double_aa_ron Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 3, 2012
    Austin, Texas
    I have literally tried 30 flavors from them and I would think I would find at least ONE that I like enough to buy a big bottle, but sadly that isn't the case. I tried about 10 with a 50/50 the first time I ordered and the flavor was underwhelming, so I made another order using their default ratio thinking that the flavor would be better. Well, the flavor is slightly better, but the vapor production it terrible. Oh well. I guess this it one of the cases there you get what you pay for.
     
  5. lam7

    lam7 Full Member

    May 21, 2012
    VA
    If you like the flavor at 80/20 but not the vapor, why don't you order 50/50 and add a shot or two?
     
  6. Zippoz

    Zippoz Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 1, 2013
    PNW
    I'll be honest, I can't believe that you've tried 30 FLAVORS and didn't like even one of them! I've tried 6 flavors from them so far and been nothing but impressed. To each his own, I guess.
     
  7. MayLovesMetal

    MayLovesMetal Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    It's almost heretical to say it here, but I personally don't care for Mt. Baker's juices either. They aren't terrible, just not particularly good. Everything I've had from them I can easily make for myself as well or better. The price is fair for what they are, mind you, but when I buy juice I prefer to go to vendors with exceptional quality extracts and/or truly outstanding recipes. Mt Baker is like the neighborhood diner of juice imo- it's not fine dining.
     
  8. DoogieTony

    DoogieTony Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 12, 2013
    Indianapolis, IN
    I was also not impressed with MBV. A couple were ok and a couple went in the trash. The way people rave on ecf I was expecting alot I suppose. In the end I felt the juices tasted a bit "cheap". Seems that a ton of people love them tho, I guess its just different strokes.
     
  9. Sm0kyBlue

    Sm0kyBlue Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2013
    OmG.. wow.. I just got my order from them and I have to say I am very very pleased..

    if this is your mom and pop standard.. I think I like them!!

    ordered some tobacco (2) and some cake mmmmm, and the salted caramel and they sent me some free ras/lemon and I am drooling!! I am hooked.. :oops:
     
  10. retrox

    retrox Flavor Chaser Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 10, 2013
    NC, USA
    OP: What juices do you like, and from where? Knowing this may help MBV fans point you in the right direction as far as getting the performance and flavor you prefer. After having tried a wide range of ratios and flavor shots, I now get all my stuff 65/35 0 shots from them. Haven't had anything at that mix yet that I've been displeased with.

    And you never know, as unlikely as it seems, you might not like anything MBV has on offer, and that's perfectly okay!
     
  11. Thatki

    Thatki Full Member

    Apr 25, 2013
    st paul, mn
    i talked to a customer service rep with their live chat about this exact thing. vg will mute the flavor so he advised me to add a shot or 2 with a 65/35 mix. i wasnt impressed at first either, but i let them sit for a couple days and now they are quite good. made another order as soon as i realized they just needed to steep for a bit.

    their customer service is phenomenal and the the time from order to my front door was 2 days. when i ordered the second batch, i got a shipping confirmation about 2 hours later. thought taste is subjective and you have to find what you like. to each their own i guess.
     
  12. El_tecolote

    El_tecolote Moved On

    Apr 10, 2013
    The handful of MBV juices I've tried at 50/50 I have always ordered with either one or two shots. They have been pleasant vapes, decent, and steeping for a week or two does enhance the overall vape.
     
  13. Rocketpunk

    Rocketpunk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Aug 14, 2012
    Dayton, Ohio
    If you notice their post count, a lot of MBV fans are still relatively new. I, too, was blown away by the prices and the fast shipping... but I soon realized that, unfortunately, almost everything I ever tried that wasn't butterscotch, caramel candy, or caramel coffee, especially the fruits and sweets, tasted like sweet tarts. Everything. It didn't matter if it was supposed to be melon or raspberry, everything tasted like sweet tarts [edit: or pixie stix]. And something about their cream just made me gag. It tasted and smelled like hair product.

    As vapers grow and experience and try new things, even the pricier stuff, their taste buds may change. Granted, you can't beat MBV's prices, and their shipping and customer service is stellar, but in the end, out of six or seven pages of flavors, I only found two I can honestly say I like: butterscotch, and caramel coffee. Unfortunately, caramel coffee wreaks major, major havoc on all of my cartos, even my emergency clearos. So... Yeah, you get what you pay for.

    THIS IS NOT A KNOCK ON MBV, they are great for entry level, new vapers.
     
  14. donna328

    donna328 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    fraser,mi.usa
    I love cinnamon bun and mudslide is great...but I think the higher vg is better.
     
  15. unclestu

    unclestu Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 23, 2013
    ALLENHURST, NJ, USA
    I ordered 12 juices from MTB and they all were OK though I have no basis of comparison as I am new. However there were none that I would consider tossing in the trash. Many of the flavors I ordered were ordered just to have an opportunity to taste and develope an understanding of what it is that I would like. Some that I though I would never consider as an all day staple actually have become just that.. Butterscotch and Graham Cracker are very good. Many flavors though you may not dislike them would never be considered an ecery day type. I like sour cream on a baked potato but I wouldn't consider eating it all day long. So far I like MTB but my level of expectation has not been set and time will tell however so far so good.
    Stu
     
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